Fuel system troubleshooting recommendations?
06-25-2007, 06:38 PM
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Re: Fuel system troubleshooting recommendations?
Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
$127.07. Thats quite a difference.
Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
TIA
Matt Mika
it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
$127.07. Thats quite a difference.
Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
TIA
Matt Mika
06-25-2007, 07:09 PM
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Re: Fuel system troubleshooting recommendations?
MattMika wrote:
> Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
>
> I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
>
> I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
>
> Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
But make sure you get the correct part.
Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
it did for me.
--
DougW
> Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
>
> I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
>
> I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
>
> Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
But make sure you get the correct part.
Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
it did for me.
--
DougW
06-25-2007, 07:09 PM
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Re: Fuel system troubleshooting recommendations?
MattMika wrote:
> Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
>
> I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
>
> I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
>
> Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
But make sure you get the correct part.
Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
it did for me.
--
DougW
> Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
>
> I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
>
> I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
>
> Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
But make sure you get the correct part.
Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
it did for me.
--
DougW
06-25-2007, 07:09 PM
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Re: Fuel system troubleshooting recommendations?
MattMika wrote:
> Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
>
> I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
>
> I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
>
> Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
But make sure you get the correct part.
Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
it did for me.
--
DougW
> Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
>
> I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
>
> I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
>
> Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
But make sure you get the correct part.
Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
it did for me.
--
DougW
06-25-2007, 07:09 PM
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Re: Fuel system troubleshooting recommendations?
MattMika wrote:
> Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
>
> I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
>
> I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
>
> Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
But make sure you get the correct part.
Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
it did for me.
--
DougW
> Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
>
> I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
>
> I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
>
> Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
But make sure you get the correct part.
Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
it did for me.
--
DougW
06-25-2007, 07:27 PM
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Re: Fuel system troubleshooting recommendations?
check the coil; while cranking with water and look for arching
the coil wires were a big problem too. don't overlook something as simple as
a fuse too!!!
DougW wrote:
> MattMika wrote:
> > Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> > it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> > Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> > mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> > traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> > it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
> >
> > I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> > checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
> >
> > I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> > $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
> >
> > Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
>
> I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
> and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
> But make sure you get the correct part.
>
> Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
> Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
>
> Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
> the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
> while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
> it did for me.
>
> --
> DougW
the coil wires were a big problem too. don't overlook something as simple as
a fuse too!!!
DougW wrote:
> MattMika wrote:
> > Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> > it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> > Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> > mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> > traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> > it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
> >
> > I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> > checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
> >
> > I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> > $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
> >
> > Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
>
> I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
> and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
> But make sure you get the correct part.
>
> Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
> Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
>
> Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
> the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
> while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
> it did for me.
>
> --
> DougW
06-25-2007, 07:27 PM
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Re: Fuel system troubleshooting recommendations?
check the coil; while cranking with water and look for arching
the coil wires were a big problem too. don't overlook something as simple as
a fuse too!!!
DougW wrote:
> MattMika wrote:
> > Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> > it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> > Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> > mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> > traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> > it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
> >
> > I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> > checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
> >
> > I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> > $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
> >
> > Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
>
> I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
> and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
> But make sure you get the correct part.
>
> Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
> Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
>
> Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
> the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
> while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
> it did for me.
>
> --
> DougW
the coil wires were a big problem too. don't overlook something as simple as
a fuse too!!!
DougW wrote:
> MattMika wrote:
> > Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> > it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> > Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> > mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> > traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> > it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
> >
> > I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> > checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
> >
> > I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> > $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
> >
> > Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
>
> I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
> and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
> But make sure you get the correct part.
>
> Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
> Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
>
> Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
> the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
> while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
> it did for me.
>
> --
> DougW
06-25-2007, 07:27 PM
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Re: Fuel system troubleshooting recommendations?
check the coil; while cranking with water and look for arching
the coil wires were a big problem too. don't overlook something as simple as
a fuse too!!!
DougW wrote:
> MattMika wrote:
> > Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> > it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> > Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> > mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> > traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> > it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
> >
> > I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> > checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
> >
> > I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> > $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
> >
> > Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
>
> I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
> and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
> But make sure you get the correct part.
>
> Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
> Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
>
> Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
> the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
> while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
> it did for me.
>
> --
> DougW
the coil wires were a big problem too. don't overlook something as simple as
a fuse too!!!
DougW wrote:
> MattMika wrote:
> > Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> > it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> > Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> > mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> > traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> > it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
> >
> > I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> > checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
> >
> > I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> > $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
> >
> > Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
>
> I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
> and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
> But make sure you get the correct part.
>
> Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
> Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
>
> Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
> the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
> while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
> it did for me.
>
> --
> DougW
06-25-2007, 07:27 PM
#29
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Re: Fuel system troubleshooting recommendations?
check the coil; while cranking with water and look for arching
the coil wires were a big problem too. don't overlook something as simple as
a fuse too!!!
DougW wrote:
> MattMika wrote:
> > Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> > it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> > Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> > mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> > traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> > it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
> >
> > I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> > checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
> >
> > I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> > $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
> >
> > Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
>
> I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
> and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
> But make sure you get the correct part.
>
> Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
> Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
>
> Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
> the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
> while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
> it did for me.
>
> --
> DougW
the coil wires were a big problem too. don't overlook something as simple as
a fuse too!!!
DougW wrote:
> MattMika wrote:
> > Before I posted I was thinking heat might have something to do with
> > it, as the problem started when it started gettingwarm here in Denver.
> > Today its in the upper 90's and when I went for lunch I drove about 10
> > mins. and it started acting up. Luckily I was able to get out of
> > traffic before it totally died. I let it sit while I ate my lunch and
> > it started right up after a 10-15 min rest.
> >
> > I checked with Autozone online, they have the part for $61.99, havent
> > checked if a location close to me has one in stock yet.
> >
> > I also called Lithia, the jeep dealer by my house, and they said
> > $127.07. Thats quite a difference.
> >
> > Are aftermarket CPS's ok or should I stick with OEM?
>
> I've used both OEM from www.chryslerpartsdirect.com
> and NAPA (Echlin line). No difference from my experience.
> But make sure you get the correct part.
>
> Considering your talking heat, it could also be the ignition coil.
> Those can also fail when hot. I had one pull that stunt on me also.
>
> Hard to describe the difference, both feel about the same. Although
> the coil tends to give more grief at high rpm (providing it starts)
> while the CPS tends to barf when your coming to a stop. Or at least
> it did for me.
>
> --
> DougW
06-26-2007, 05:50 PM
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Re: Fuel system troubleshooting recommendations?
Another thing to look at is the fuel pump. Yours maybe getting ready for
retirement. Which they will do in the most inconvenient way and place.
MattMika wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:30:46 +0200, "Odd-Inge Larsen"
> <oddingelarsen@dcpost.no> wrote:
>
>> Why do you think it's a fuel related problem? Could be, but...
>
> I thought it was fuel system related because the 'cut out' is similar
> to running out of gas. It starts to sputter then gets no power at all.
> Then suddenly it starts running again.
>
>> What came to my mind was also a faulty CPS. When it gets hot it stops
>> working, then cools down and works again. Could of course also be fuel
>> related, ignition related, computer related etc...
>
> Based on the seemingly high rate of failure of these devices it seems
> that will be a good place to start. I see that early 90's models may
> have problems with a low signal strength "due to a larger than desired
> distance to the flywheel sensing ring."
>
> http://autorepair.about.com/cs/faqs/l/bl557h.htm
>
> I guess I'll see how well its position and move it closer if possible
> or replace it and the grommet if it doesnt look like the updated type.
>
> Thanks
> Matt Mika
retirement. Which they will do in the most inconvenient way and place.
MattMika wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 19:30:46 +0200, "Odd-Inge Larsen"
> <oddingelarsen@dcpost.no> wrote:
>
>> Why do you think it's a fuel related problem? Could be, but...
>
> I thought it was fuel system related because the 'cut out' is similar
> to running out of gas. It starts to sputter then gets no power at all.
> Then suddenly it starts running again.
>
>> What came to my mind was also a faulty CPS. When it gets hot it stops
>> working, then cools down and works again. Could of course also be fuel
>> related, ignition related, computer related etc...
>
> Based on the seemingly high rate of failure of these devices it seems
> that will be a good place to start. I see that early 90's models may
> have problems with a low signal strength "due to a larger than desired
> distance to the flywheel sensing ring."
>
> http://autorepair.about.com/cs/faqs/l/bl557h.htm
>
> I guess I'll see how well its position and move it closer if possible
> or replace it and the grommet if it doesnt look like the updated type.
>
> Thanks
> Matt Mika