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Spdloader 09-13-2007 08:25 PM

Re: fuel still a problem
 

"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189716881.175429.76520@r29g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> my 88 yj 4.2 is not getting fuel. ive checked the steel fuel line
> that goes back to the tank. i also have checked every line between
> this one and the carburetor. none of them are clogged or torn. the
> fuel filter is new as well as the fuel pump. im about to drop the
> tank and look at the hoses i cant see as of now. i tried this before
> but the bolts on the first layer of sheet metal under the tank are
> impossible to take off. 3 there and all 3 wont budge. is there
> anything else i could check before trying the tank again? and what can
> i do to get these damn bolts to move?! when i blow through the gas
> line i dont hear any bubbling but know theres gas in it, unless it all
> drips out unoticed buti idk how that could happen.
>
> thanks to anyone that can help
>


Be sure there is PLENTY of gas in the tank.
Disconnect the fuel line from the fuel pump to the carb AT the carb.
Disconnect the coil wire.
Have someone turn the ignition switch to spin the motor and see if fuel
spurts out of the line.
Be sure the fuel line isn't pointing toward the disconnected coil wire.
If it squirts fuel, you're good to go.
If not, you have a bad pump, or an obstruction.
Pretty simple.

Spdloader



Spdloader 09-13-2007 08:25 PM

Re: fuel still a problem
 

"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189716881.175429.76520@r29g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> my 88 yj 4.2 is not getting fuel. ive checked the steel fuel line
> that goes back to the tank. i also have checked every line between
> this one and the carburetor. none of them are clogged or torn. the
> fuel filter is new as well as the fuel pump. im about to drop the
> tank and look at the hoses i cant see as of now. i tried this before
> but the bolts on the first layer of sheet metal under the tank are
> impossible to take off. 3 there and all 3 wont budge. is there
> anything else i could check before trying the tank again? and what can
> i do to get these damn bolts to move?! when i blow through the gas
> line i dont hear any bubbling but know theres gas in it, unless it all
> drips out unoticed buti idk how that could happen.
>
> thanks to anyone that can help
>


Be sure there is PLENTY of gas in the tank.
Disconnect the fuel line from the fuel pump to the carb AT the carb.
Disconnect the coil wire.
Have someone turn the ignition switch to spin the motor and see if fuel
spurts out of the line.
Be sure the fuel line isn't pointing toward the disconnected coil wire.
If it squirts fuel, you're good to go.
If not, you have a bad pump, or an obstruction.
Pretty simple.

Spdloader



Spdloader 09-13-2007 08:25 PM

Re: fuel still a problem
 

"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189716881.175429.76520@r29g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> my 88 yj 4.2 is not getting fuel. ive checked the steel fuel line
> that goes back to the tank. i also have checked every line between
> this one and the carburetor. none of them are clogged or torn. the
> fuel filter is new as well as the fuel pump. im about to drop the
> tank and look at the hoses i cant see as of now. i tried this before
> but the bolts on the first layer of sheet metal under the tank are
> impossible to take off. 3 there and all 3 wont budge. is there
> anything else i could check before trying the tank again? and what can
> i do to get these damn bolts to move?! when i blow through the gas
> line i dont hear any bubbling but know theres gas in it, unless it all
> drips out unoticed buti idk how that could happen.
>
> thanks to anyone that can help
>


Be sure there is PLENTY of gas in the tank.
Disconnect the fuel line from the fuel pump to the carb AT the carb.
Disconnect the coil wire.
Have someone turn the ignition switch to spin the motor and see if fuel
spurts out of the line.
Be sure the fuel line isn't pointing toward the disconnected coil wire.
If it squirts fuel, you're good to go.
If not, you have a bad pump, or an obstruction.
Pretty simple.

Spdloader



Jeff Strickland 09-15-2007 11:48 AM

Re: fuel still a problem
 

"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189716881.175429.76520@r29g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> my 88 yj 4.2 is not getting fuel. ive checked the steel fuel line
> that goes back to the tank. i also have checked every line between
> this one and the carburetor. none of them are clogged or torn. the
> fuel filter is new as well as the fuel pump. im about to drop the
> tank and look at the hoses i cant see as of now. i tried this before
> but the bolts on the first layer of sheet metal under the tank are
> impossible to take off. 3 there and all 3 wont budge. is there
> anything else i could check before trying the tank again? and what can
> i do to get these damn bolts to move?! when i blow through the gas
> line i dont hear any bubbling but know theres gas in it, unless it all
> drips out unoticed buti idk how that could happen.
>
> thanks to anyone that can help
>



My '81 had two lines connected to the fuel filter on one end, and one line
on the other. The lines in the center of the filter are the pass-through
lines, the line off to the side is a vapor return. This line MUST be
positioned so that it is at the top. Loosen the clamps and rotate the filter
canister so that this line as positioned at 12:00.

Your engine uses a mechanical fuel pump, I think. If so, have you made sure
it works?

I've not done a good job following your exploits under the hood, but it
seems to me that you are spending an inordinate amount of time and effort on
the fuel system. I know you've done lots of stuff, and I can't help but
wonder if you are missing something that is very fundemental. Perhaps you
could recap your adventures for us, and maybe there is a commonality that
you are missing and your efforts are not directed at the parts that will
solve the problem.






Jeff Strickland 09-15-2007 11:48 AM

Re: fuel still a problem
 

"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189716881.175429.76520@r29g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> my 88 yj 4.2 is not getting fuel. ive checked the steel fuel line
> that goes back to the tank. i also have checked every line between
> this one and the carburetor. none of them are clogged or torn. the
> fuel filter is new as well as the fuel pump. im about to drop the
> tank and look at the hoses i cant see as of now. i tried this before
> but the bolts on the first layer of sheet metal under the tank are
> impossible to take off. 3 there and all 3 wont budge. is there
> anything else i could check before trying the tank again? and what can
> i do to get these damn bolts to move?! when i blow through the gas
> line i dont hear any bubbling but know theres gas in it, unless it all
> drips out unoticed buti idk how that could happen.
>
> thanks to anyone that can help
>



My '81 had two lines connected to the fuel filter on one end, and one line
on the other. The lines in the center of the filter are the pass-through
lines, the line off to the side is a vapor return. This line MUST be
positioned so that it is at the top. Loosen the clamps and rotate the filter
canister so that this line as positioned at 12:00.

Your engine uses a mechanical fuel pump, I think. If so, have you made sure
it works?

I've not done a good job following your exploits under the hood, but it
seems to me that you are spending an inordinate amount of time and effort on
the fuel system. I know you've done lots of stuff, and I can't help but
wonder if you are missing something that is very fundemental. Perhaps you
could recap your adventures for us, and maybe there is a commonality that
you are missing and your efforts are not directed at the parts that will
solve the problem.






Jeff Strickland 09-15-2007 11:48 AM

Re: fuel still a problem
 

"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189716881.175429.76520@r29g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> my 88 yj 4.2 is not getting fuel. ive checked the steel fuel line
> that goes back to the tank. i also have checked every line between
> this one and the carburetor. none of them are clogged or torn. the
> fuel filter is new as well as the fuel pump. im about to drop the
> tank and look at the hoses i cant see as of now. i tried this before
> but the bolts on the first layer of sheet metal under the tank are
> impossible to take off. 3 there and all 3 wont budge. is there
> anything else i could check before trying the tank again? and what can
> i do to get these damn bolts to move?! when i blow through the gas
> line i dont hear any bubbling but know theres gas in it, unless it all
> drips out unoticed buti idk how that could happen.
>
> thanks to anyone that can help
>



My '81 had two lines connected to the fuel filter on one end, and one line
on the other. The lines in the center of the filter are the pass-through
lines, the line off to the side is a vapor return. This line MUST be
positioned so that it is at the top. Loosen the clamps and rotate the filter
canister so that this line as positioned at 12:00.

Your engine uses a mechanical fuel pump, I think. If so, have you made sure
it works?

I've not done a good job following your exploits under the hood, but it
seems to me that you are spending an inordinate amount of time and effort on
the fuel system. I know you've done lots of stuff, and I can't help but
wonder if you are missing something that is very fundemental. Perhaps you
could recap your adventures for us, and maybe there is a commonality that
you are missing and your efforts are not directed at the parts that will
solve the problem.






Jeff Strickland 09-15-2007 11:48 AM

Re: fuel still a problem
 

"88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1189716881.175429.76520@r29g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
> my 88 yj 4.2 is not getting fuel. ive checked the steel fuel line
> that goes back to the tank. i also have checked every line between
> this one and the carburetor. none of them are clogged or torn. the
> fuel filter is new as well as the fuel pump. im about to drop the
> tank and look at the hoses i cant see as of now. i tried this before
> but the bolts on the first layer of sheet metal under the tank are
> impossible to take off. 3 there and all 3 wont budge. is there
> anything else i could check before trying the tank again? and what can
> i do to get these damn bolts to move?! when i blow through the gas
> line i dont hear any bubbling but know theres gas in it, unless it all
> drips out unoticed buti idk how that could happen.
>
> thanks to anyone that can help
>



My '81 had two lines connected to the fuel filter on one end, and one line
on the other. The lines in the center of the filter are the pass-through
lines, the line off to the side is a vapor return. This line MUST be
positioned so that it is at the top. Loosen the clamps and rotate the filter
canister so that this line as positioned at 12:00.

Your engine uses a mechanical fuel pump, I think. If so, have you made sure
it works?

I've not done a good job following your exploits under the hood, but it
seems to me that you are spending an inordinate amount of time and effort on
the fuel system. I know you've done lots of stuff, and I can't help but
wonder if you are missing something that is very fundemental. Perhaps you
could recap your adventures for us, and maybe there is a commonality that
you are missing and your efforts are not directed at the parts that will
solve the problem.






Mike Romain 09-15-2007 12:39 PM

Re: fuel still a problem
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1189716881.175429.76520@r29g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> my 88 yj 4.2 is not getting fuel. ive checked the steel fuel line
>> that goes back to the tank. i also have checked every line between
>> this one and the carburetor. none of them are clogged or torn. the
>> fuel filter is new as well as the fuel pump. im about to drop the
>> tank and look at the hoses i cant see as of now. i tried this before
>> but the bolts on the first layer of sheet metal under the tank are
>> impossible to take off. 3 there and all 3 wont budge. is there
>> anything else i could check before trying the tank again? and what can
>> i do to get these damn bolts to move?! when i blow through the gas
>> line i dont hear any bubbling but know theres gas in it, unless it all
>> drips out unoticed buti idk how that could happen.
>>
>> thanks to anyone that can help
>>

>
>
> My '81 had two lines connected to the fuel filter on one end, and one
> line on the other. The lines in the center of the filter are the
> pass-through lines, the line off to the side is a vapor return. This
> line MUST be positioned so that it is at the top. Loosen the clamps and
> rotate the filter canister so that this line as positioned at 12:00.
>
> Your engine uses a mechanical fuel pump, I think. If so, have you made
> sure it works?
>
> I've not done a good job following your exploits under the hood, but it
> seems to me that you are spending an inordinate amount of time and
> effort on the fuel system. I know you've done lots of stuff, and I can't
> help but wonder if you are missing something that is very fundemental.
> Perhaps you could recap your adventures for us, and maybe there is a
> commonality that you are missing and your efforts are not directed at
> the parts that will solve the problem.
>
>


The last I had figured is he is out of gas....

When he blows back through the fuel line he doesn't hear bubbles with
the gas cap open, he has a clear blow.

Either that or the line on top of the tank has broken where he can't see it.

I sure would toss a gallon or two into the tank to see if someone
siphoned it or the gauge is wrong before trying to tackle dropping a
rusted on tank... Way to many bolts to have to grind off. Been there
done that 'too' many times....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 09-15-2007 12:39 PM

Re: fuel still a problem
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1189716881.175429.76520@r29g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> my 88 yj 4.2 is not getting fuel. ive checked the steel fuel line
>> that goes back to the tank. i also have checked every line between
>> this one and the carburetor. none of them are clogged or torn. the
>> fuel filter is new as well as the fuel pump. im about to drop the
>> tank and look at the hoses i cant see as of now. i tried this before
>> but the bolts on the first layer of sheet metal under the tank are
>> impossible to take off. 3 there and all 3 wont budge. is there
>> anything else i could check before trying the tank again? and what can
>> i do to get these damn bolts to move?! when i blow through the gas
>> line i dont hear any bubbling but know theres gas in it, unless it all
>> drips out unoticed buti idk how that could happen.
>>
>> thanks to anyone that can help
>>

>
>
> My '81 had two lines connected to the fuel filter on one end, and one
> line on the other. The lines in the center of the filter are the
> pass-through lines, the line off to the side is a vapor return. This
> line MUST be positioned so that it is at the top. Loosen the clamps and
> rotate the filter canister so that this line as positioned at 12:00.
>
> Your engine uses a mechanical fuel pump, I think. If so, have you made
> sure it works?
>
> I've not done a good job following your exploits under the hood, but it
> seems to me that you are spending an inordinate amount of time and
> effort on the fuel system. I know you've done lots of stuff, and I can't
> help but wonder if you are missing something that is very fundemental.
> Perhaps you could recap your adventures for us, and maybe there is a
> commonality that you are missing and your efforts are not directed at
> the parts that will solve the problem.
>
>


The last I had figured is he is out of gas....

When he blows back through the fuel line he doesn't hear bubbles with
the gas cap open, he has a clear blow.

Either that or the line on top of the tank has broken where he can't see it.

I sure would toss a gallon or two into the tank to see if someone
siphoned it or the gauge is wrong before trying to tackle dropping a
rusted on tank... Way to many bolts to have to grind off. Been there
done that 'too' many times....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike Romain 09-15-2007 12:39 PM

Re: fuel still a problem
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "88yj" <scrrules11@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1189716881.175429.76520@r29g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>> my 88 yj 4.2 is not getting fuel. ive checked the steel fuel line
>> that goes back to the tank. i also have checked every line between
>> this one and the carburetor. none of them are clogged or torn. the
>> fuel filter is new as well as the fuel pump. im about to drop the
>> tank and look at the hoses i cant see as of now. i tried this before
>> but the bolts on the first layer of sheet metal under the tank are
>> impossible to take off. 3 there and all 3 wont budge. is there
>> anything else i could check before trying the tank again? and what can
>> i do to get these damn bolts to move?! when i blow through the gas
>> line i dont hear any bubbling but know theres gas in it, unless it all
>> drips out unoticed buti idk how that could happen.
>>
>> thanks to anyone that can help
>>

>
>
> My '81 had two lines connected to the fuel filter on one end, and one
> line on the other. The lines in the center of the filter are the
> pass-through lines, the line off to the side is a vapor return. This
> line MUST be positioned so that it is at the top. Loosen the clamps and
> rotate the filter canister so that this line as positioned at 12:00.
>
> Your engine uses a mechanical fuel pump, I think. If so, have you made
> sure it works?
>
> I've not done a good job following your exploits under the hood, but it
> seems to me that you are spending an inordinate amount of time and
> effort on the fuel system. I know you've done lots of stuff, and I can't
> help but wonder if you are missing something that is very fundemental.
> Perhaps you could recap your adventures for us, and maybe there is a
> commonality that you are missing and your efforts are not directed at
> the parts that will solve the problem.
>
>


The last I had figured is he is out of gas....

When he blows back through the fuel line he doesn't hear bubbles with
the gas cap open, he has a clear blow.

Either that or the line on top of the tank has broken where he can't see it.

I sure would toss a gallon or two into the tank to see if someone
siphoned it or the gauge is wrong before trying to tackle dropping a
rusted on tank... Way to many bolts to have to grind off. Been there
done that 'too' many times....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


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