Fuel economy - bad to worse
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Re: Fuel economy - bad to worse
Mike Romain wrote:
> That's right, losers always come out with the insults. Calling me a
> 'technician' now, ouch that hurts....
What in the world are you saying here?... On the first score, you
started with the insulting in the other thread, on the second score: do
you not understand what sarcasm is?
You're a great help to a lot of people here over the years, I've nothing
against you personally except for the kooky fact that you think the
Carter BBD is better then anything created after it, inlcuding fuel
injection and several other much better working Carbs, like the popular
motorcraft and weber 2bbl swaps.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
> That's right, losers always come out with the insults. Calling me a
> 'technician' now, ouch that hurts....
What in the world are you saying here?... On the first score, you
started with the insulting in the other thread, on the second score: do
you not understand what sarcasm is?
You're a great help to a lot of people here over the years, I've nothing
against you personally except for the kooky fact that you think the
Carter BBD is better then anything created after it, inlcuding fuel
injection and several other much better working Carbs, like the popular
motorcraft and weber 2bbl swaps.
--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Fuel economy - bad to worse
Simon,
Ninety percent of the advice I write is for the group as a whole.
We talking about a car with a hundred thousand miles on it, that's
probably been neglected, meaning the spark plugs have over the
recommended thirty thousand miles. And mike was reminding these people
using a search engine to trouble shoot their failing engines, to include
ignition wires, cap, and rotor that are often forgotten.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> An 01 TJ is distributorless there oh great "technician"
>
> --
> Simon
Ninety percent of the advice I write is for the group as a whole.
We talking about a car with a hundred thousand miles on it, that's
probably been neglected, meaning the spark plugs have over the
recommended thirty thousand miles. And mike was reminding these people
using a search engine to trouble shoot their failing engines, to include
ignition wires, cap, and rotor that are often forgotten.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> An 01 TJ is distributorless there oh great "technician"
>
> --
> Simon
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Re: Fuel economy - bad to worse
Simon,
Ninety percent of the advice I write is for the group as a whole.
We talking about a car with a hundred thousand miles on it, that's
probably been neglected, meaning the spark plugs have over the
recommended thirty thousand miles. And mike was reminding these people
using a search engine to trouble shoot their failing engines, to include
ignition wires, cap, and rotor that are often forgotten.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> An 01 TJ is distributorless there oh great "technician"
>
> --
> Simon
Ninety percent of the advice I write is for the group as a whole.
We talking about a car with a hundred thousand miles on it, that's
probably been neglected, meaning the spark plugs have over the
recommended thirty thousand miles. And mike was reminding these people
using a search engine to trouble shoot their failing engines, to include
ignition wires, cap, and rotor that are often forgotten.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> An 01 TJ is distributorless there oh great "technician"
>
> --
> Simon
Guest
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Re: Fuel economy - bad to worse
Simon,
Ninety percent of the advice I write is for the group as a whole.
We talking about a car with a hundred thousand miles on it, that's
probably been neglected, meaning the spark plugs have over the
recommended thirty thousand miles. And mike was reminding these people
using a search engine to trouble shoot their failing engines, to include
ignition wires, cap, and rotor that are often forgotten.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> An 01 TJ is distributorless there oh great "technician"
>
> --
> Simon
Ninety percent of the advice I write is for the group as a whole.
We talking about a car with a hundred thousand miles on it, that's
probably been neglected, meaning the spark plugs have over the
recommended thirty thousand miles. And mike was reminding these people
using a search engine to trouble shoot their failing engines, to include
ignition wires, cap, and rotor that are often forgotten.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Simon Juncal wrote:
>
> An 01 TJ is distributorless there oh great "technician"
>
> --
> Simon
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Re: Fuel economy - bad to worse
New Zealand uses RON Octane ratings, we have 91 (regular) and 95
premium. Owners manual says to use 91, which is what I use. Normally I
go to Shell, Mobil or BP. At this stage, we don't use alcohol in our
fuel. I will try to stick to one grade from one supplier and then
switch and see if that makes any difference.
TW
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I don't know what your octane ratings are in New Zealand, but as
> our oil companies have had to take a lower grade of crude at seventy
> seven bucks a forty four gallon barrel, the bounce to the ounce has
> suffered. Also, here we have tried to save money by switching from a
> major suppliers of gasoline to something with alcohol in it, knocking
> off about twenty percent in economy and power.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
premium. Owners manual says to use 91, which is what I use. Normally I
go to Shell, Mobil or BP. At this stage, we don't use alcohol in our
fuel. I will try to stick to one grade from one supplier and then
switch and see if that makes any difference.
TW
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I don't know what your octane ratings are in New Zealand, but as
> our oil companies have had to take a lower grade of crude at seventy
> seven bucks a forty four gallon barrel, the bounce to the ounce has
> suffered. Also, here we have tried to save money by switching from a
> major suppliers of gasoline to something with alcohol in it, knocking
> off about twenty percent in economy and power.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Guest
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Re: Fuel economy - bad to worse
New Zealand uses RON Octane ratings, we have 91 (regular) and 95
premium. Owners manual says to use 91, which is what I use. Normally I
go to Shell, Mobil or BP. At this stage, we don't use alcohol in our
fuel. I will try to stick to one grade from one supplier and then
switch and see if that makes any difference.
TW
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I don't know what your octane ratings are in New Zealand, but as
> our oil companies have had to take a lower grade of crude at seventy
> seven bucks a forty four gallon barrel, the bounce to the ounce has
> suffered. Also, here we have tried to save money by switching from a
> major suppliers of gasoline to something with alcohol in it, knocking
> off about twenty percent in economy and power.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
premium. Owners manual says to use 91, which is what I use. Normally I
go to Shell, Mobil or BP. At this stage, we don't use alcohol in our
fuel. I will try to stick to one grade from one supplier and then
switch and see if that makes any difference.
TW
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I don't know what your octane ratings are in New Zealand, but as
> our oil companies have had to take a lower grade of crude at seventy
> seven bucks a forty four gallon barrel, the bounce to the ounce has
> suffered. Also, here we have tried to save money by switching from a
> major suppliers of gasoline to something with alcohol in it, knocking
> off about twenty percent in economy and power.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
Guest
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Re: Fuel economy - bad to worse
New Zealand uses RON Octane ratings, we have 91 (regular) and 95
premium. Owners manual says to use 91, which is what I use. Normally I
go to Shell, Mobil or BP. At this stage, we don't use alcohol in our
fuel. I will try to stick to one grade from one supplier and then
switch and see if that makes any difference.
TW
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I don't know what your octane ratings are in New Zealand, but as
> our oil companies have had to take a lower grade of crude at seventy
> seven bucks a forty four gallon barrel, the bounce to the ounce has
> suffered. Also, here we have tried to save money by switching from a
> major suppliers of gasoline to something with alcohol in it, knocking
> off about twenty percent in economy and power.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
premium. Owners manual says to use 91, which is what I use. Normally I
go to Shell, Mobil or BP. At this stage, we don't use alcohol in our
fuel. I will try to stick to one grade from one supplier and then
switch and see if that makes any difference.
TW
L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> I don't know what your octane ratings are in New Zealand, but as
> our oil companies have had to take a lower grade of crude at seventy
> seven bucks a forty four gallon barrel, the bounce to the ounce has
> suffered. Also, here we have tried to save money by switching from a
> major suppliers of gasoline to something with alcohol in it, knocking
> off about twenty percent in economy and power.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
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Re: Fuel economy - bad to worse
Brakes were done two weeks ago, fuel economy went south about 3 months
ago. I might change the plugs and air filter and see that makes any
difference. Cleaning TB is also a very good idea. I have a locking
fuel cap.
Thanks for all the good ideas.
TW
PS: no teenage daughters in the house - wife doesn't drive my toy.
billy ray wrote:
> Your new brakes aren't dragging are they?
>
> What about the parking brake? some times the cables seize...
>
> Check the plugs... although if they were mis firing regularly you would get
> a p030x code..
>
> Pull off the intake resonator and take a look at your throttle body, It
> might need a cleaning with spray cleaner and an old toothbrush.
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
>
> The injectors might be a bit sticky, a can of Seafoam or Techron in the
> gasoline might help
>
> Be careful if you go to buy Techron. They make Techron Cleaner (pure stuff)
> and Cleaner with Techron (diluted stuff), you want the pure stuff. Both
> retail about $6-$7 (us) per bottle
>
> You don't let your wife or teenage daughter drive it do you?
>
> Do you have neighborhood youths who might be siphoning it out?
>
> What about a gas tank or gas line leak?
>
> Have you changes *brands* or octane of gasoline? It can make a difference.
>
> The last thing that comes to mind at the moment (it is 3:30 AM here) is
> driving style....... has that changed? It can alter your mileage 30-40% per
> recent tests.
>
>
>
> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:e9a4ms$5v6$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Billy,
>>
>> Tyre pressure checked every week (running at 30psi), air filter replaced
>> Dec '05, spark plugs replace d Dec '04, front brake pads replaced two
>> weeks ago, diff oil changed Dec '05, ATF changed Dec '05. Any other
>> ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>> TW
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>>> Tire pressure, air filter, spark plugs, dragging brakes, diff lube,
>>> ATF...to start..
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:e9a3i3$3rk$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>> Hi, my 01 TJ (4.0L Auto) seems to have lost whatever fuel economy it had
>>>> before. Lately, I can only do about 300kms on a full tank. I am
>>>> running 265/70R16s and an OME lift. These mods did not change the fuel
>>>> economy when they were done two years ago. Could it be that the O2
>>>> sensor has gone bad? There are no error codes or check light coming up.
>>>> Every thing else feels/runs fine. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> TW
>
ago. I might change the plugs and air filter and see that makes any
difference. Cleaning TB is also a very good idea. I have a locking
fuel cap.
Thanks for all the good ideas.
TW
PS: no teenage daughters in the house - wife doesn't drive my toy.
billy ray wrote:
> Your new brakes aren't dragging are they?
>
> What about the parking brake? some times the cables seize...
>
> Check the plugs... although if they were mis firing regularly you would get
> a p030x code..
>
> Pull off the intake resonator and take a look at your throttle body, It
> might need a cleaning with spray cleaner and an old toothbrush.
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
>
> The injectors might be a bit sticky, a can of Seafoam or Techron in the
> gasoline might help
>
> Be careful if you go to buy Techron. They make Techron Cleaner (pure stuff)
> and Cleaner with Techron (diluted stuff), you want the pure stuff. Both
> retail about $6-$7 (us) per bottle
>
> You don't let your wife or teenage daughter drive it do you?
>
> Do you have neighborhood youths who might be siphoning it out?
>
> What about a gas tank or gas line leak?
>
> Have you changes *brands* or octane of gasoline? It can make a difference.
>
> The last thing that comes to mind at the moment (it is 3:30 AM here) is
> driving style....... has that changed? It can alter your mileage 30-40% per
> recent tests.
>
>
>
> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:e9a4ms$5v6$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Billy,
>>
>> Tyre pressure checked every week (running at 30psi), air filter replaced
>> Dec '05, spark plugs replace d Dec '04, front brake pads replaced two
>> weeks ago, diff oil changed Dec '05, ATF changed Dec '05. Any other
>> ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>> TW
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>>> Tire pressure, air filter, spark plugs, dragging brakes, diff lube,
>>> ATF...to start..
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:e9a3i3$3rk$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>> Hi, my 01 TJ (4.0L Auto) seems to have lost whatever fuel economy it had
>>>> before. Lately, I can only do about 300kms on a full tank. I am
>>>> running 265/70R16s and an OME lift. These mods did not change the fuel
>>>> economy when they were done two years ago. Could it be that the O2
>>>> sensor has gone bad? There are no error codes or check light coming up.
>>>> Every thing else feels/runs fine. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> TW
>
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Re: Fuel economy - bad to worse
Brakes were done two weeks ago, fuel economy went south about 3 months
ago. I might change the plugs and air filter and see that makes any
difference. Cleaning TB is also a very good idea. I have a locking
fuel cap.
Thanks for all the good ideas.
TW
PS: no teenage daughters in the house - wife doesn't drive my toy.
billy ray wrote:
> Your new brakes aren't dragging are they?
>
> What about the parking brake? some times the cables seize...
>
> Check the plugs... although if they were mis firing regularly you would get
> a p030x code..
>
> Pull off the intake resonator and take a look at your throttle body, It
> might need a cleaning with spray cleaner and an old toothbrush.
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
>
> The injectors might be a bit sticky, a can of Seafoam or Techron in the
> gasoline might help
>
> Be careful if you go to buy Techron. They make Techron Cleaner (pure stuff)
> and Cleaner with Techron (diluted stuff), you want the pure stuff. Both
> retail about $6-$7 (us) per bottle
>
> You don't let your wife or teenage daughter drive it do you?
>
> Do you have neighborhood youths who might be siphoning it out?
>
> What about a gas tank or gas line leak?
>
> Have you changes *brands* or octane of gasoline? It can make a difference.
>
> The last thing that comes to mind at the moment (it is 3:30 AM here) is
> driving style....... has that changed? It can alter your mileage 30-40% per
> recent tests.
>
>
>
> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:e9a4ms$5v6$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Billy,
>>
>> Tyre pressure checked every week (running at 30psi), air filter replaced
>> Dec '05, spark plugs replace d Dec '04, front brake pads replaced two
>> weeks ago, diff oil changed Dec '05, ATF changed Dec '05. Any other
>> ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>> TW
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>>> Tire pressure, air filter, spark plugs, dragging brakes, diff lube,
>>> ATF...to start..
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:e9a3i3$3rk$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>> Hi, my 01 TJ (4.0L Auto) seems to have lost whatever fuel economy it had
>>>> before. Lately, I can only do about 300kms on a full tank. I am
>>>> running 265/70R16s and an OME lift. These mods did not change the fuel
>>>> economy when they were done two years ago. Could it be that the O2
>>>> sensor has gone bad? There are no error codes or check light coming up.
>>>> Every thing else feels/runs fine. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> TW
>
ago. I might change the plugs and air filter and see that makes any
difference. Cleaning TB is also a very good idea. I have a locking
fuel cap.
Thanks for all the good ideas.
TW
PS: no teenage daughters in the house - wife doesn't drive my toy.
billy ray wrote:
> Your new brakes aren't dragging are they?
>
> What about the parking brake? some times the cables seize...
>
> Check the plugs... although if they were mis firing regularly you would get
> a p030x code..
>
> Pull off the intake resonator and take a look at your throttle body, It
> might need a cleaning with spray cleaner and an old toothbrush.
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
>
> The injectors might be a bit sticky, a can of Seafoam or Techron in the
> gasoline might help
>
> Be careful if you go to buy Techron. They make Techron Cleaner (pure stuff)
> and Cleaner with Techron (diluted stuff), you want the pure stuff. Both
> retail about $6-$7 (us) per bottle
>
> You don't let your wife or teenage daughter drive it do you?
>
> Do you have neighborhood youths who might be siphoning it out?
>
> What about a gas tank or gas line leak?
>
> Have you changes *brands* or octane of gasoline? It can make a difference.
>
> The last thing that comes to mind at the moment (it is 3:30 AM here) is
> driving style....... has that changed? It can alter your mileage 30-40% per
> recent tests.
>
>
>
> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:e9a4ms$5v6$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Billy,
>>
>> Tyre pressure checked every week (running at 30psi), air filter replaced
>> Dec '05, spark plugs replace d Dec '04, front brake pads replaced two
>> weeks ago, diff oil changed Dec '05, ATF changed Dec '05. Any other
>> ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>> TW
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>>> Tire pressure, air filter, spark plugs, dragging brakes, diff lube,
>>> ATF...to start..
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:e9a3i3$3rk$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>> Hi, my 01 TJ (4.0L Auto) seems to have lost whatever fuel economy it had
>>>> before. Lately, I can only do about 300kms on a full tank. I am
>>>> running 265/70R16s and an OME lift. These mods did not change the fuel
>>>> economy when they were done two years ago. Could it be that the O2
>>>> sensor has gone bad? There are no error codes or check light coming up.
>>>> Every thing else feels/runs fine. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> TW
>
Guest
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Re: Fuel economy - bad to worse
Brakes were done two weeks ago, fuel economy went south about 3 months
ago. I might change the plugs and air filter and see that makes any
difference. Cleaning TB is also a very good idea. I have a locking
fuel cap.
Thanks for all the good ideas.
TW
PS: no teenage daughters in the house - wife doesn't drive my toy.
billy ray wrote:
> Your new brakes aren't dragging are they?
>
> What about the parking brake? some times the cables seize...
>
> Check the plugs... although if they were mis firing regularly you would get
> a p030x code..
>
> Pull off the intake resonator and take a look at your throttle body, It
> might need a cleaning with spray cleaner and an old toothbrush.
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
>
> The injectors might be a bit sticky, a can of Seafoam or Techron in the
> gasoline might help
>
> Be careful if you go to buy Techron. They make Techron Cleaner (pure stuff)
> and Cleaner with Techron (diluted stuff), you want the pure stuff. Both
> retail about $6-$7 (us) per bottle
>
> You don't let your wife or teenage daughter drive it do you?
>
> Do you have neighborhood youths who might be siphoning it out?
>
> What about a gas tank or gas line leak?
>
> Have you changes *brands* or octane of gasoline? It can make a difference.
>
> The last thing that comes to mind at the moment (it is 3:30 AM here) is
> driving style....... has that changed? It can alter your mileage 30-40% per
> recent tests.
>
>
>
> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:e9a4ms$5v6$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Billy,
>>
>> Tyre pressure checked every week (running at 30psi), air filter replaced
>> Dec '05, spark plugs replace d Dec '04, front brake pads replaced two
>> weeks ago, diff oil changed Dec '05, ATF changed Dec '05. Any other
>> ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>> TW
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>>> Tire pressure, air filter, spark plugs, dragging brakes, diff lube,
>>> ATF...to start..
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:e9a3i3$3rk$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>> Hi, my 01 TJ (4.0L Auto) seems to have lost whatever fuel economy it had
>>>> before. Lately, I can only do about 300kms on a full tank. I am
>>>> running 265/70R16s and an OME lift. These mods did not change the fuel
>>>> economy when they were done two years ago. Could it be that the O2
>>>> sensor has gone bad? There are no error codes or check light coming up.
>>>> Every thing else feels/runs fine. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> TW
>
ago. I might change the plugs and air filter and see that makes any
difference. Cleaning TB is also a very good idea. I have a locking
fuel cap.
Thanks for all the good ideas.
TW
PS: no teenage daughters in the house - wife doesn't drive my toy.
billy ray wrote:
> Your new brakes aren't dragging are they?
>
> What about the parking brake? some times the cables seize...
>
> Check the plugs... although if they were mis firing regularly you would get
> a p030x code..
>
> Pull off the intake resonator and take a look at your throttle body, It
> might need a cleaning with spray cleaner and an old toothbrush.
>
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2122181169
>
> The injectors might be a bit sticky, a can of Seafoam or Techron in the
> gasoline might help
>
> Be careful if you go to buy Techron. They make Techron Cleaner (pure stuff)
> and Cleaner with Techron (diluted stuff), you want the pure stuff. Both
> retail about $6-$7 (us) per bottle
>
> You don't let your wife or teenage daughter drive it do you?
>
> Do you have neighborhood youths who might be siphoning it out?
>
> What about a gas tank or gas line leak?
>
> Have you changes *brands* or octane of gasoline? It can make a difference.
>
> The last thing that comes to mind at the moment (it is 3:30 AM here) is
> driving style....... has that changed? It can alter your mileage 30-40% per
> recent tests.
>
>
>
> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
> news:e9a4ms$5v6$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Billy,
>>
>> Tyre pressure checked every week (running at 30psi), air filter replaced
>> Dec '05, spark plugs replace d Dec '04, front brake pads replaced two
>> weeks ago, diff oil changed Dec '05, ATF changed Dec '05. Any other
>> ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>> TW
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>>> Tire pressure, air filter, spark plugs, dragging brakes, diff lube,
>>> ATF...to start..
>>>
>>>
>>> "TW" <REMOVE_attw@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
>>> news:e9a3i3$3rk$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>>>> Hi, my 01 TJ (4.0L Auto) seems to have lost whatever fuel economy it had
>>>> before. Lately, I can only do about 300kms on a full tank. I am
>>>> running 265/70R16s and an OME lift. These mods did not change the fuel
>>>> economy when they were done two years ago. Could it be that the O2
>>>> sensor has gone bad? There are no error codes or check light coming up.
>>>> Every thing else feels/runs fine. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> TW
>
