I'm going to be putting a 4" lift on this weekend. With the drop tubes, I
shouldn't need an SYE kit should I? I'd like to go that route eventually,
but don't have the cash.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:ca20qj01c0f@enews3.newsguy.com...
>
> "Nick" <nick@nospam_nrdavis.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:pao8c0hfrdeosj11pjgqbupqakd910qbcg@4ax.com...
> > Hi,
> > Still trying to work out the exact route to 33" tires, is it
> > possible to install the Full Traction 4" lift kit with the supplied
> > transfer case drop hardware and run the existing slip yoke and
> > driveshaft as an interim before going to a SYE and CV driveshaft.
>
> Yes, but you won't like it.
>
> > The original plan was OME 2" lift 1" Bodylift, but the
> > articulation will be far better with the FTS 4" configuration.
> > However the OME lift would have allowed me an interim period being
> > able to use the existing slip yoke/driveshaft.
>
>
> I'm not sure what knid of rig you're talking about here, however, where
> lifts are concerned, time and time again I've seen folks go for a shorter
> lift for expediency, etc., then regret it. (This is also the voice of
> experience!)
>
> Save your money for the SYE /driveshaft kit and do it all at the same
time.
> You'll likely also have to regear...to do it right is not cheap!
>
>

 

I'm going to be putting a 4" lift on this weekend. With the drop tubes, I
shouldn't need an SYE kit should I? I'd like to go that route eventually,
but don't have the cash.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:ca20qj01c0f@enews3.newsguy.com...
>
> "Nick" <nick@nospam_nrdavis.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:pao8c0hfrdeosj11pjgqbupqakd910qbcg@4ax.com...
> > Hi,
> > Still trying to work out the exact route to 33" tires, is it
> > possible to install the Full Traction 4" lift kit with the supplied
> > transfer case drop hardware and run the existing slip yoke and
> > driveshaft as an interim before going to a SYE and CV driveshaft.
>
> Yes, but you won't like it.
>
> > The original plan was OME 2" lift 1" Bodylift, but the
> > articulation will be far better with the FTS 4" configuration.
> > However the OME lift would have allowed me an interim period being
> > able to use the existing slip yoke/driveshaft.
>
>
> I'm not sure what knid of rig you're talking about here, however, where
> lifts are concerned, time and time again I've seen folks go for a shorter
> lift for expediency, etc., then regret it. (This is also the voice of
> experience!)
>
> Save your money for the SYE /driveshaft kit and do it all at the same
time.
> You'll likely also have to regear...to do it right is not cheap!
>
>

 

I'm going to be putting a 4" lift on this weekend. With the drop tubes, I
shouldn't need an SYE kit should I? I'd like to go that route eventually,
but don't have the cash.

Eric
99 TJ SE
"Jerry McG" <gmcgeorge.remove@frontier.net> wrote in message
news:ca20qj01c0f@enews3.newsguy.com...
>
> "Nick" <nick@nospam_nrdavis.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:pao8c0hfrdeosj11pjgqbupqakd910qbcg@4ax.com...
> > Hi,
> > Still trying to work out the exact route to 33" tires, is it
> > possible to install the Full Traction 4" lift kit with the supplied
> > transfer case drop hardware and run the existing slip yoke and
> > driveshaft as an interim before going to a SYE and CV driveshaft.
>
> Yes, but you won't like it.
>
> > The original plan was OME 2" lift 1" Bodylift, but the
> > articulation will be far better with the FTS 4" configuration.
> > However the OME lift would have allowed me an interim period being
> > able to use the existing slip yoke/driveshaft.
>
>
> I'm not sure what knid of rig you're talking about here, however, where
> lifts are concerned, time and time again I've seen folks go for a shorter
> lift for expediency, etc., then regret it. (This is also the voice of
> experience!)
>
> Save your money for the SYE /driveshaft kit and do it all at the same
time.
> You'll likely also have to regear...to do it right is not cheap!
>
>

 

While it's *best* and always *recommended* that a person doing a lift
of over 2" does the SYE and CV tailshaft at the same time, yes, you
should be able to get by with it in the interim. You'd be even better
off if, along with the t-case drop, you did a 1" engine motor mount
lift. That can help ease driveline angles as well (provided you angle
your pinion afterward to point parallel to the angle of the t-case
output).

Be aware, though, the vibration that could result will eat your
u-joints faster, and will accelerate any possible deterioration of
your t-case output bearings/seals and your differential input
bearings/seals. That said, I went for a year like that before putting
in my SYE kit, and only when the vibration started getting worse
(u-joints about to give up the ghost) I finally did the SYE
conversion. The heavy duty SYE conversions replace the output bearings
and seals, so I didn't care if they'd been damaged during my year-long
"interim". My rear diff did begin leaking from the input seal not too
long after (about 3 months later I noticed it); it wasn't bad enough
to really concern me (no pooling), but that's an easy fix (the seal,
that is). The bearings may have been bad, too, but by that time I
decided to do my gears/lockers, and had install the rebuild kits (new
bearings and seals, etc.) at the same time.

So, while you can get by with it, just make sure you don't intend for
your "interim" to be too terribly long. I'd try to do the SYE within
at least a year of the lift, to ensure it lasts awhile. I think mine
was lifted for about 2 years before I did the SYE kit, as I recall.

You'll have to post your experience with the FT kit. I've been
thinking of one day converting my short-arm 4" lift to a FT either 4"
or 6" long-arm setup...

/Bob


Nick <nick@nospam_nrdavis.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<pao8c0hfrdeosj11pjgqbupqakd910qbcg@4ax.com>. ..
> Hi,
> Still trying to work out the exact route to 33" tires, is it
> possible to install the Full Traction 4" lift kit with the supplied
> transfer case drop hardware and run the existing slip yoke and
> driveshaft as an interim before going to a SYE and CV driveshaft.
>
> The original plan was OME 2" lift 1" Bodylift, but the
> articulation will be far better with the FTS 4" configuration.
> However the OME lift would have allowed me an interim period being
> able to use the existing slip yoke/driveshaft.
>
> Any help or comments will also be greatly appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Nick

 

While it's *best* and always *recommended* that a person doing a lift
of over 2" does the SYE and CV tailshaft at the same time, yes, you
should be able to get by with it in the interim. You'd be even better
off if, along with the t-case drop, you did a 1" engine motor mount
lift. That can help ease driveline angles as well (provided you angle
your pinion afterward to point parallel to the angle of the t-case
output).

Be aware, though, the vibration that could result will eat your
u-joints faster, and will accelerate any possible deterioration of
your t-case output bearings/seals and your differential input
bearings/seals. That said, I went for a year like that before putting
in my SYE kit, and only when the vibration started getting worse
(u-joints about to give up the ghost) I finally did the SYE
conversion. The heavy duty SYE conversions replace the output bearings
and seals, so I didn't care if they'd been damaged during my year-long
"interim". My rear diff did begin leaking from the input seal not too
long after (about 3 months later I noticed it); it wasn't bad enough
to really concern me (no pooling), but that's an easy fix (the seal,
that is). The bearings may have been bad, too, but by that time I
decided to do my gears/lockers, and had install the rebuild kits (new
bearings and seals, etc.) at the same time.

So, while you can get by with it, just make sure you don't intend for
your "interim" to be too terribly long. I'd try to do the SYE within
at least a year of the lift, to ensure it lasts awhile. I think mine
was lifted for about 2 years before I did the SYE kit, as I recall.

You'll have to post your experience with the FT kit. I've been
thinking of one day converting my short-arm 4" lift to a FT either 4"
or 6" long-arm setup...

/Bob


Nick <nick@nospam_nrdavis.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<pao8c0hfrdeosj11pjgqbupqakd910qbcg@4ax.com>. ..
> Hi,
> Still trying to work out the exact route to 33" tires, is it
> possible to install the Full Traction 4" lift kit with the supplied
> transfer case drop hardware and run the existing slip yoke and
> driveshaft as an interim before going to a SYE and CV driveshaft.
>
> The original plan was OME 2" lift 1" Bodylift, but the
> articulation will be far better with the FTS 4" configuration.
> However the OME lift would have allowed me an interim period being
> able to use the existing slip yoke/driveshaft.
>
> Any help or comments will also be greatly appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Nick

 

While it's *best* and always *recommended* that a person doing a lift
of over 2" does the SYE and CV tailshaft at the same time, yes, you
should be able to get by with it in the interim. You'd be even better
off if, along with the t-case drop, you did a 1" engine motor mount
lift. That can help ease driveline angles as well (provided you angle
your pinion afterward to point parallel to the angle of the t-case
output).

Be aware, though, the vibration that could result will eat your
u-joints faster, and will accelerate any possible deterioration of
your t-case output bearings/seals and your differential input
bearings/seals. That said, I went for a year like that before putting
in my SYE kit, and only when the vibration started getting worse
(u-joints about to give up the ghost) I finally did the SYE
conversion. The heavy duty SYE conversions replace the output bearings
and seals, so I didn't care if they'd been damaged during my year-long
"interim". My rear diff did begin leaking from the input seal not too
long after (about 3 months later I noticed it); it wasn't bad enough
to really concern me (no pooling), but that's an easy fix (the seal,
that is). The bearings may have been bad, too, but by that time I
decided to do my gears/lockers, and had install the rebuild kits (new
bearings and seals, etc.) at the same time.

So, while you can get by with it, just make sure you don't intend for
your "interim" to be too terribly long. I'd try to do the SYE within
at least a year of the lift, to ensure it lasts awhile. I think mine
was lifted for about 2 years before I did the SYE kit, as I recall.

You'll have to post your experience with the FT kit. I've been
thinking of one day converting my short-arm 4" lift to a FT either 4"
or 6" long-arm setup...

/Bob


Nick <nick@nospam_nrdavis.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<pao8c0hfrdeosj11pjgqbupqakd910qbcg@4ax.com>. ..
> Hi,
> Still trying to work out the exact route to 33" tires, is it
> possible to install the Full Traction 4" lift kit with the supplied
> transfer case drop hardware and run the existing slip yoke and
> driveshaft as an interim before going to a SYE and CV driveshaft.
>
> The original plan was OME 2" lift 1" Bodylift, but the
> articulation will be far better with the FTS 4" configuration.
> However the OME lift would have allowed me an interim period being
> able to use the existing slip yoke/driveshaft.
>
> Any help or comments will also be greatly appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Nick

 

While it's *best* and always *recommended* that a person doing a lift
of over 2" does the SYE and CV tailshaft at the same time, yes, you
should be able to get by with it in the interim. You'd be even better
off if, along with the t-case drop, you did a 1" engine motor mount
lift. That can help ease driveline angles as well (provided you angle
your pinion afterward to point parallel to the angle of the t-case
output).

Be aware, though, the vibration that could result will eat your
u-joints faster, and will accelerate any possible deterioration of
your t-case output bearings/seals and your differential input
bearings/seals. That said, I went for a year like that before putting
in my SYE kit, and only when the vibration started getting worse
(u-joints about to give up the ghost) I finally did the SYE
conversion. The heavy duty SYE conversions replace the output bearings
and seals, so I didn't care if they'd been damaged during my year-long
"interim". My rear diff did begin leaking from the input seal not too
long after (about 3 months later I noticed it); it wasn't bad enough
to really concern me (no pooling), but that's an easy fix (the seal,
that is). The bearings may have been bad, too, but by that time I
decided to do my gears/lockers, and had install the rebuild kits (new
bearings and seals, etc.) at the same time.

So, while you can get by with it, just make sure you don't intend for
your "interim" to be too terribly long. I'd try to do the SYE within
at least a year of the lift, to ensure it lasts awhile. I think mine
was lifted for about 2 years before I did the SYE kit, as I recall.

You'll have to post your experience with the FT kit. I've been
thinking of one day converting my short-arm 4" lift to a FT either 4"
or 6" long-arm setup...

/Bob


Nick <nick@nospam_nrdavis.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<pao8c0hfrdeosj11pjgqbupqakd910qbcg@4ax.com>. ..
> Hi,
> Still trying to work out the exact route to 33" tires, is it
> possible to install the Full Traction 4" lift kit with the supplied
> transfer case drop hardware and run the existing slip yoke and
> driveshaft as an interim before going to a SYE and CV driveshaft.
>
> The original plan was OME 2" lift 1" Bodylift, but the
> articulation will be far better with the FTS 4" configuration.
> However the OME lift would have allowed me an interim period being
> able to use the existing slip yoke/driveshaft.
>
> Any help or comments will also be greatly appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Nick