FSJ D44s in a TJ?
11-22-2005, 12:20 AM
#1
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FSJ D44s in a TJ?
Here's the deal:
1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum to
drum, new brake lines, etc.
3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to put
it in his XJ before he sold it).
I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that D35....
one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any writeups?
Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is there anything
funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns? Since they're
older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
- Eric
99 TJ SE
1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum to
drum, new brake lines, etc.
3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to put
it in his XJ before he sold it).
I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that D35....
one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any writeups?
Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is there anything
funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns? Since they're
older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
- Eric
99 TJ SE
11-22-2005, 01:47 AM
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Re: FSJ D44s in a TJ?
They should be a six bolt pattern. You will need to either swap both axles,
or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
think you will be best to swap both axles.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Here's the deal:
>
> 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
>
> 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum to
> drum, new brake lines, etc.
>
> 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> put it in his XJ before he sold it).
>
> I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that D35....
> one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is there
> anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns? Since
> they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
>
> Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
>
> - Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
think you will be best to swap both axles.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Here's the deal:
>
> 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
>
> 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum to
> drum, new brake lines, etc.
>
> 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> put it in his XJ before he sold it).
>
> I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that D35....
> one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is there
> anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns? Since
> they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
>
> Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
>
> - Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
11-22-2005, 01:47 AM
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Re: FSJ D44s in a TJ?
They should be a six bolt pattern. You will need to either swap both axles,
or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
think you will be best to swap both axles.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Here's the deal:
>
> 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
>
> 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum to
> drum, new brake lines, etc.
>
> 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> put it in his XJ before he sold it).
>
> I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that D35....
> one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is there
> anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns? Since
> they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
>
> Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
>
> - Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
think you will be best to swap both axles.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Here's the deal:
>
> 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
>
> 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum to
> drum, new brake lines, etc.
>
> 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> put it in his XJ before he sold it).
>
> I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that D35....
> one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is there
> anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns? Since
> they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
>
> Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
>
> - Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
11-22-2005, 01:47 AM
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Re: FSJ D44s in a TJ?
They should be a six bolt pattern. You will need to either swap both axles,
or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
think you will be best to swap both axles.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Here's the deal:
>
> 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
>
> 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum to
> drum, new brake lines, etc.
>
> 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> put it in his XJ before he sold it).
>
> I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that D35....
> one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is there
> anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns? Since
> they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
>
> Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
>
> - Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
think you will be best to swap both axles.
"Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> Here's the deal:
>
> 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
>
> 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum to
> drum, new brake lines, etc.
>
> 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> put it in his XJ before he sold it).
>
> I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that D35....
> one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is there
> anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns? Since
> they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
>
> Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
>
> - Eric
> 99 TJ SE
>
11-22-2005, 02:20 PM
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Re: FSJ D44s in a TJ?
This would mean drums on the front of the TJ, if I read the original poster
right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
to determine the price.
Earle
"Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:K9zgf.548$x56.121@fe16.usenetserver.com...
> They should be a six bolt pattern. You will need to either swap both
axles,
> or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
> mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
> think you will be best to swap both axles.
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > Here's the deal:
> >
> > 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
> >
> > 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum
to
> > drum, new brake lines, etc.
> >
> > 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> > put it in his XJ before he sold it).
> >
> > I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that
D35....
> > one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> > writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is
there
> > anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns?
Since
> > they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
> >
> > Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
> >
> > - Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
>
>
>
right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
to determine the price.
Earle
"Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:K9zgf.548$x56.121@fe16.usenetserver.com...
> They should be a six bolt pattern. You will need to either swap both
axles,
> or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
> mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
> think you will be best to swap both axles.
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > Here's the deal:
> >
> > 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
> >
> > 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum
to
> > drum, new brake lines, etc.
> >
> > 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> > put it in his XJ before he sold it).
> >
> > I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that
D35....
> > one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> > writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is
there
> > anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns?
Since
> > they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
> >
> > Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
> >
> > - Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
>
>
>
11-22-2005, 02:20 PM
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Re: FSJ D44s in a TJ?
This would mean drums on the front of the TJ, if I read the original poster
right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
to determine the price.
Earle
"Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:K9zgf.548$x56.121@fe16.usenetserver.com...
> They should be a six bolt pattern. You will need to either swap both
axles,
> or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
> mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
> think you will be best to swap both axles.
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > Here's the deal:
> >
> > 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
> >
> > 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum
to
> > drum, new brake lines, etc.
> >
> > 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> > put it in his XJ before he sold it).
> >
> > I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that
D35....
> > one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> > writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is
there
> > anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns?
Since
> > they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
> >
> > Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
> >
> > - Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
>
>
>
right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
to determine the price.
Earle
"Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:K9zgf.548$x56.121@fe16.usenetserver.com...
> They should be a six bolt pattern. You will need to either swap both
axles,
> or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
> mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
> think you will be best to swap both axles.
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > Here's the deal:
> >
> > 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
> >
> > 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum
to
> > drum, new brake lines, etc.
> >
> > 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> > put it in his XJ before he sold it).
> >
> > I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that
D35....
> > one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> > writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is
there
> > anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns?
Since
> > they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
> >
> > Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
> >
> > - Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
>
>
>
11-22-2005, 02:20 PM
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Re: FSJ D44s in a TJ?
This would mean drums on the front of the TJ, if I read the original poster
right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
to determine the price.
Earle
"Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:K9zgf.548$x56.121@fe16.usenetserver.com...
> They should be a six bolt pattern. You will need to either swap both
axles,
> or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
> mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
> think you will be best to swap both axles.
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > Here's the deal:
> >
> > 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
> >
> > 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum
to
> > drum, new brake lines, etc.
> >
> > 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> > put it in his XJ before he sold it).
> >
> > I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that
D35....
> > one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> > writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is
there
> > anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns?
Since
> > they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
> >
> > Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
> >
> > - Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
>
>
>
right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
to determine the price.
Earle
"Rusted" <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:K9zgf.548$x56.121@fe16.usenetserver.com...
> They should be a six bolt pattern. You will need to either swap both
axles,
> or find a way to convert that rear to a 5 on 4.5 so you don't have
> mis-matched rims. From memory width is a little wider on the D44's. I
> think you will be best to swap both axles.
>
> "Eric" <gymrat@baileyscorner.com> wrote in message
> news:RUxgf.8717$%i.474@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> > Here's the deal:
> >
> > 1. I am picking up a set of D44s from an 81 Cherokee tomorrow. For free.
> >
> > 2. They have 4.56s (so the owner thinks...). Also have new brakes, drum
to
> > drum, new brake lines, etc.
> >
> > 3. They have spring perches for an XJ already welded on (he was going to
> > put it in his XJ before he sold it).
> >
> > I have no desire to swap out my D30. It does just fine. But that
D35....
> > one break is enough for me... what would it take? Anyone found any
> > writeups? Other than the obvious spring cups, shock mounts, etc, is
there
> > anything funky? Are they wider/skinnier than the D35? Bolt patterns?
Since
> > they're older, I assume (and hope) they aren't c-clip...
> >
> > Is this going to be more trouble than it's worth? Thanks!
> >
> > - Eric
> > 99 TJ SE
> >
>
>
>
11-22-2005, 03:00 PM
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Re: FSJ D44s in a TJ?
Hi Earle,
It would also mean he'd have to buy a Real Dana 20 or 300 transfer
to run the driveshaft down the right side.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> This would mean drums on the front of the TJ, if I read the original poster
> right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
> that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
> bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
> 81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
> if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
> there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
> the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
> to determine the price.
>
> Earle
It would also mean he'd have to buy a Real Dana 20 or 300 transfer
to run the driveshaft down the right side.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> This would mean drums on the front of the TJ, if I read the original poster
> right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
> that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
> bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
> 81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
> if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
> there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
> the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
> to determine the price.
>
> Earle
11-22-2005, 03:00 PM
#9
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Re: FSJ D44s in a TJ?
Hi Earle,
It would also mean he'd have to buy a Real Dana 20 or 300 transfer
to run the driveshaft down the right side.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> This would mean drums on the front of the TJ, if I read the original poster
> right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
> that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
> bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
> 81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
> if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
> there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
> the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
> to determine the price.
>
> Earle
It would also mean he'd have to buy a Real Dana 20 or 300 transfer
to run the driveshaft down the right side.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> This would mean drums on the front of the TJ, if I read the original poster
> right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
> that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
> bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
> 81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
> if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
> there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
> the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
> to determine the price.
>
> Earle
11-22-2005, 03:00 PM
#10
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Re: FSJ D44s in a TJ?
Hi Earle,
It would also mean he'd have to buy a Real Dana 20 or 300 transfer
to run the driveshaft down the right side.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> This would mean drums on the front of the TJ, if I read the original poster
> right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
> that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
> bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
> 81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
> if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
> there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
> the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
> to determine the price.
>
> Earle
It would also mean he'd have to buy a Real Dana 20 or 300 transfer
to run the driveshaft down the right side.
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> This would mean drums on the front of the TJ, if I read the original poster
> right, as stating that both D44s have new drum brakes. I don't know how
> that would work, or how many parts he would have to buy, to make the six
> bolt hubs fit his disk brakes. I am sure that drums big enough to stop an
> 81 Cherokee would be adequate for a TJ, but there are potential legal issues
> if you ever get into an accident. I am not entirely against the swap, but
> there are things to think about. A good machine shop could probably make
> the rear axles take 5 on 4.5 rims, but it would be a good idea to ask first,
> to determine the price.
>
> Earle