Ditto.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Chill, Wallis. Brian's been on this forum for a long time and has been a
> contributor, not an abuser.

 

Ditto.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Chill, Wallis. Brian's been on this forum for a long time and has been a
> contributor, not an abuser.

 

I think this is going way out of hand. Brian has made a valuable
contribution here and there is no reason to doubt that this is a private
sale ; one For Sale instead of For Auction does *not* turn him into an
abuser. Secondly, only the most braindead of people would not spot the ebay
and realise ebay is an auction. I really dont believe that now, in the age
of broadband and even 56K modems ( as opposed to the old 300 baud ones ),
that anyone would be that upset that they downloaded the message body
unnecessarily. You are making a welcome distinction between For Auction and
For Sale, but its not exactly a train smash if it isn't made; For Sale is
perfectly correct if not precise, and isn't worth bickering about.

Be honest - Who was REALLY UPSET by this ? Why ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4159738B.D3FA5CAC@sympatico.ca...
> No!
>
> An auction is a physical action that 'might' or might not' turn into a
> sale.
>
> Overview for "for sale"
>
> The adjective "for sale" has 1 sense in WordNet.
>
> 1. purchasable, for sale -- (available for purchase; "purchasable
> goods"; "many houses in the area are for sale")
>
> http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-...&word=for+sale
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Brian French wrote:
> >
> > > first off it is an auction, not a sale as someone pointed out so
> > >it is a misleading advertisement,
> >
> > That is like saying it is false advertising to describe a CAT as a
MAMMAL, Yes
> > it might specifically be a Persian, but there is nothing wrong with
calling it
> > a mammal.
> >
> > The dictionary uses the word SALE, and TO SELL. The method of arriving
at
> > consummation of the sale does not in fact negate the fact that a sale is
made.
> > An auction is one of the types of sales possible.
> >
> > Main Entry: [2]auction
> > Function: transitive verb
> > Inflected Form(s): auc·tioned; auc·tion·ing /-sh(&-)ni[ng]/
> > Date: circa 1798
> > : to sell at auction
> >
> > Main Entry: [1]auc·tion
> > Pronunciation: 'ok-sh&n
> > Function: noun
> > Etymology: Latin auction-, auctio, from augEre to increase â?"more at
EKE
> > Date: 1595
> > 1 : a sale of property to the highest bidder
> > <a
href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
> > Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
> > <a
href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
> > Squadron Patches of WWII </a>

 

I think this is going way out of hand. Brian has made a valuable
contribution here and there is no reason to doubt that this is a private
sale ; one For Sale instead of For Auction does *not* turn him into an
abuser. Secondly, only the most braindead of people would not spot the ebay
and realise ebay is an auction. I really dont believe that now, in the age
of broadband and even 56K modems ( as opposed to the old 300 baud ones ),
that anyone would be that upset that they downloaded the message body
unnecessarily. You are making a welcome distinction between For Auction and
For Sale, but its not exactly a train smash if it isn't made; For Sale is
perfectly correct if not precise, and isn't worth bickering about.

Be honest - Who was REALLY UPSET by this ? Why ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4159738B.D3FA5CAC@sympatico.ca...
> No!
>
> An auction is a physical action that 'might' or might not' turn into a
> sale.
>
> Overview for "for sale"
>
> The adjective "for sale" has 1 sense in WordNet.
>
> 1. purchasable, for sale -- (available for purchase; "purchasable
> goods"; "many houses in the area are for sale")
>
> http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-...&word=for+sale
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Brian French wrote:
> >
> > > first off it is an auction, not a sale as someone pointed out so
> > >it is a misleading advertisement,
> >
> > That is like saying it is false advertising to describe a CAT as a
MAMMAL, Yes
> > it might specifically be a Persian, but there is nothing wrong with
calling it
> > a mammal.
> >
> > The dictionary uses the word SALE, and TO SELL. The method of arriving
at
> > consummation of the sale does not in fact negate the fact that a sale is
made.
> > An auction is one of the types of sales possible.
> >
> > Main Entry: [2]auction
> > Function: transitive verb
> > Inflected Form(s): auc·tioned; auc·tion·ing /-sh(&-)ni[ng]/
> > Date: circa 1798
> > : to sell at auction
> >
> > Main Entry: [1]auc·tion
> > Pronunciation: 'ok-sh&n
> > Function: noun
> > Etymology: Latin auction-, auctio, from augEre to increase â?"more at
EKE
> > Date: 1595
> > 1 : a sale of property to the highest bidder
> > <a
href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
> > Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
> > <a
href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
> > Squadron Patches of WWII </a>

 

I think this is going way out of hand. Brian has made a valuable
contribution here and there is no reason to doubt that this is a private
sale ; one For Sale instead of For Auction does *not* turn him into an
abuser. Secondly, only the most braindead of people would not spot the ebay
and realise ebay is an auction. I really dont believe that now, in the age
of broadband and even 56K modems ( as opposed to the old 300 baud ones ),
that anyone would be that upset that they downloaded the message body
unnecessarily. You are making a welcome distinction between For Auction and
For Sale, but its not exactly a train smash if it isn't made; For Sale is
perfectly correct if not precise, and isn't worth bickering about.

Be honest - Who was REALLY UPSET by this ? Why ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4159738B.D3FA5CAC@sympatico.ca...
> No!
>
> An auction is a physical action that 'might' or might not' turn into a
> sale.
>
> Overview for "for sale"
>
> The adjective "for sale" has 1 sense in WordNet.
>
> 1. purchasable, for sale -- (available for purchase; "purchasable
> goods"; "many houses in the area are for sale")
>
> http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-...&word=for+sale
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Brian French wrote:
> >
> > > first off it is an auction, not a sale as someone pointed out so
> > >it is a misleading advertisement,
> >
> > That is like saying it is false advertising to describe a CAT as a
MAMMAL, Yes
> > it might specifically be a Persian, but there is nothing wrong with
calling it
> > a mammal.
> >
> > The dictionary uses the word SALE, and TO SELL. The method of arriving
at
> > consummation of the sale does not in fact negate the fact that a sale is
made.
> > An auction is one of the types of sales possible.
> >
> > Main Entry: [2]auction
> > Function: transitive verb
> > Inflected Form(s): auc·tioned; auc·tion·ing /-sh(&-)ni[ng]/
> > Date: circa 1798
> > : to sell at auction
> >
> > Main Entry: [1]auc·tion
> > Pronunciation: 'ok-sh&n
> > Function: noun
> > Etymology: Latin auction-, auctio, from augEre to increase â?"more at
EKE
> > Date: 1595
> > 1 : a sale of property to the highest bidder
> > <a
href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
> > Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
> > <a
href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
> > Squadron Patches of WWII </a>

 

>So what, do you think we are just stupid or mind readers, " Brian of
>'Brian's Military Jeeps' "?

No Mike, neither, there is a guy about 30 minutes away who runs a jeep parts
store called "Brian's Jeep Parts"

I get lots of calls from his customers, and I am sure he gets a lot of my
customers calling him, cause someone at ATT looked it up wrong.

At jeep meets I have to constantly tell people "No, I am Brian, from Brian's
MILITARY Jeeps', not Brian from 'Brian's Jeeps' they then get a huh look on
their face, and I have to explain that there are more than one jeep guy named
'brian' to go ask questions and get info on parts from.

So, to avoid more of that long winded explanation typing a short 23 character
"from Brians Military Jeeps'
saves time & writing and is what common sense dictates one do.

And just because I used to sell seat frames, and distributer caps - what has
that got to do with selling a personal vehicle? Just because someone works at
a parts store and one day decides to sell vehicle, that doesn't make him a car
dealer.

i'm not sure about the ebay/usenet thing someone else brought up - i've seen
many, many other ebay postings with no followup warings, so I don't know why
this one is specially chosen to ruffle feathers.
Brian
<a href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
<a href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
Squadron Patches of WWII </a>

 

>So what, do you think we are just stupid or mind readers, " Brian of
>'Brian's Military Jeeps' "?

No Mike, neither, there is a guy about 30 minutes away who runs a jeep parts
store called "Brian's Jeep Parts"

I get lots of calls from his customers, and I am sure he gets a lot of my
customers calling him, cause someone at ATT looked it up wrong.

At jeep meets I have to constantly tell people "No, I am Brian, from Brian's
MILITARY Jeeps', not Brian from 'Brian's Jeeps' they then get a huh look on
their face, and I have to explain that there are more than one jeep guy named
'brian' to go ask questions and get info on parts from.

So, to avoid more of that long winded explanation typing a short 23 character
"from Brians Military Jeeps'
saves time & writing and is what common sense dictates one do.

And just because I used to sell seat frames, and distributer caps - what has
that got to do with selling a personal vehicle? Just because someone works at
a parts store and one day decides to sell vehicle, that doesn't make him a car
dealer.

i'm not sure about the ebay/usenet thing someone else brought up - i've seen
many, many other ebay postings with no followup warings, so I don't know why
this one is specially chosen to ruffle feathers.
Brian
<a href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
<a href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
Squadron Patches of WWII </a>

 

>So what, do you think we are just stupid or mind readers, " Brian of
>'Brian's Military Jeeps' "?

No Mike, neither, there is a guy about 30 minutes away who runs a jeep parts
store called "Brian's Jeep Parts"

I get lots of calls from his customers, and I am sure he gets a lot of my
customers calling him, cause someone at ATT looked it up wrong.

At jeep meets I have to constantly tell people "No, I am Brian, from Brian's
MILITARY Jeeps', not Brian from 'Brian's Jeeps' they then get a huh look on
their face, and I have to explain that there are more than one jeep guy named
'brian' to go ask questions and get info on parts from.

So, to avoid more of that long winded explanation typing a short 23 character
"from Brians Military Jeeps'
saves time & writing and is what common sense dictates one do.

And just because I used to sell seat frames, and distributer caps - what has
that got to do with selling a personal vehicle? Just because someone works at
a parts store and one day decides to sell vehicle, that doesn't make him a car
dealer.

i'm not sure about the ebay/usenet thing someone else brought up - i've seen
many, many other ebay postings with no followup warings, so I don't know why
this one is specially chosen to ruffle feathers.
Brian
<a href="http://members.aol.com/brimiljeep/WebPages/wwwDriveToWWII.html">
Brian's Military Jeeps of WWII www.Drive.To/WWII </a>
<a href="http://members.aol.com:/brimiljeep/WebPages/SquadronPatchPage.html">
Squadron Patches of WWII </a>

 

Brian French wrote:
>
> >So what, do you think we are just stupid or mind readers, " Brian of
> >'Brian's Military Jeeps' "?
>
> No Mike, neither, there is a guy about 30 minutes away who runs a jeep parts
> store called "Brian's Jeep Parts"
>
> I get lots of calls from his customers, and I am sure he gets a lot of my
> customers calling him, cause someone at ATT looked it up wrong.
>

Are you really that thick?

You posted here 'pretending' to be a commercial entity 'you say' and
right here above you freaking 'confirm it' by saying the guy down the
road has 'your' 'customers' calling him!!!!

This group has a Charter that specifically forbids commercial posts.

If we let one ------- start posting here we will get flooded.

If you cannot understand that simple fact, then this group is not the
group for you.

There are lots of other Jeep groups for you to spam, go there.

And there is also good reason ebay also forbids your spam. I am now
thinking I should email them to ask specifically what 'you' are doing
wrong by violating their user agreement too so I can post it here for
you. AOL also forbids you spamming this group and violating the
Charter, that is easy to look up.

How many ways do you need to be told you are wrong?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

Brian French wrote:
>
> >So what, do you think we are just stupid or mind readers, " Brian of
> >'Brian's Military Jeeps' "?
>
> No Mike, neither, there is a guy about 30 minutes away who runs a jeep parts
> store called "Brian's Jeep Parts"
>
> I get lots of calls from his customers, and I am sure he gets a lot of my
> customers calling him, cause someone at ATT looked it up wrong.
>

Are you really that thick?

You posted here 'pretending' to be a commercial entity 'you say' and
right here above you freaking 'confirm it' by saying the guy down the
road has 'your' 'customers' calling him!!!!

This group has a Charter that specifically forbids commercial posts.

If we let one ------- start posting here we will get flooded.

If you cannot understand that simple fact, then this group is not the
group for you.

There are lots of other Jeep groups for you to spam, go there.

And there is also good reason ebay also forbids your spam. I am now
thinking I should email them to ask specifically what 'you' are doing
wrong by violating their user agreement too so I can post it here for
you. AOL also forbids you spamming this group and violating the
Charter, that is easy to look up.

How many ways do you need to be told you are wrong?

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's