Tom Greening

You've lost me here Mike. Kid gloves? If you are using a good, quality
virus checker there are no kid gloves involved. Hell, I even check all my
email as a matter of course and it's all automatic. Even the email I send,
or replies I make, are checked before they are sent from my system and they
are noted as such in the signature section. If there is something that is
suspect it's moved to a "vault" just for suspect files and I go from there.
It's all transparent. The biggest pain in the butt is setting up the virus
checker in the first place. After that, it's just keep your virus database
files current (also pretty much transparent) and go about your business.

I've been dinking around with computers since a Vic-20 was state of the art
and I have never had a virus. Never, ever, ever. Actually, I should say
I've never had a virus get past the protection I've had in place.

I will grant that way too many people leave themselves WIDE open, but that
is their problem and not mine. My system is protected to a reasonable level
I believe, so it matters not how much of a mess theirs is. Their junk is
stopped at my front door. If your system is reasonably protected, any junk
you might get should be stopped at your front door as well, without it
having to be a pain in the butt. If it's a pain, you're doing something
wrong Mike.


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EE5F9A.2AF77D9A@sympatico.ca...
> Having to handle the file with kid gloves in a protected environment is
> a royal pain. I 'have' been dinged from files downloaded from friend's
> computers so now I put them under a microscope before opening them. It
> is a pain in the butt. They thought their system was clean.... or virus
> checker, 'naw I don't need one of them' or 'huh what virus or microsoft
> updates'....
>
> No offense but I don't know your computer is protected or even if it is,
> to what level.
>
> Mike
>

thomas

Quality virus protection is virtually invisible to the user. You might
reconsider the 'virus protection' you are using because it sounds
exceedingly poor or outdated. What's on another's computer should not be
a concern when you are properly protected.

Mike Romain wrote:

> Having to handle the file with kid gloves in a protected environment is
> a royal pain. I 'have' been dinged from files downloaded from friend's
> computers so now I put them under a microscope before opening them. It
> is a pain in the butt. They thought their system was clean.... or virus
> checker, 'naw I don't need one of them' or 'huh what virus or microsoft
> updates'....
>
> No offense but I don't know your computer is protected or even if it is,
> to what level.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

thomas

Quality virus protection is virtually invisible to the user. You might
reconsider the 'virus protection' you are using because it sounds
exceedingly poor or outdated. What's on another's computer should not be
a concern when you are properly protected.

Mike Romain wrote:

> Having to handle the file with kid gloves in a protected environment is
> a royal pain. I 'have' been dinged from files downloaded from friend's
> computers so now I put them under a microscope before opening them. It
> is a pain in the butt. They thought their system was clean.... or virus
> checker, 'naw I don't need one of them' or 'huh what virus or microsoft
> updates'....
>
> No offense but I don't know your computer is protected or even if it is,
> to what level.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

thomas

Quality virus protection is virtually invisible to the user. You might
reconsider the 'virus protection' you are using because it sounds
exceedingly poor or outdated. What's on another's computer should not be
a concern when you are properly protected.

Mike Romain wrote:

> Having to handle the file with kid gloves in a protected environment is
> a royal pain. I 'have' been dinged from files downloaded from friend's
> computers so now I put them under a microscope before opening them. It
> is a pain in the butt. They thought their system was clean.... or virus
> checker, 'naw I don't need one of them' or 'huh what virus or microsoft
> updates'....
>
> No offense but I don't know your computer is protected or even if it is,
> to what level.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

thomas

Quality virus protection is virtually invisible to the user. You might
reconsider the 'virus protection' you are using because it sounds
exceedingly poor or outdated. What's on another's computer should not be
a concern when you are properly protected.

Mike Romain wrote:

> Having to handle the file with kid gloves in a protected environment is
> a royal pain. I 'have' been dinged from files downloaded from friend's
> computers so now I put them under a microscope before opening them. It
> is a pain in the butt. They thought their system was clean.... or virus
> checker, 'naw I don't need one of them' or 'huh what virus or microsoft
> updates'....
>
> No offense but I don't know your computer is protected or even if it is,
> to what level.


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Dave Milne

OTOH, there is little point in compressing jpg files as the jpg files are
already compressed, and the saving is minimal.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:yLrHe.45447$zY4.4967@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> So if Jerry B, or Nate C, or everyone's favorite son Brother Bill wanted
to
> send you a zip you'd refuse it? I'd certainly take one from you or any
of
> the others. We may or may not have had serious disagreements (especially
in
> Bills' case) but I don't think he'd be so malicious as to send me
something
> destructive. I'd still scan it, but I'd take responsibility for keeping
my
> house clean so to speak. That's not to say I go downloading stuff *****
> nilly from warez sites, or crack sites, etc. Exercising some caution is
> just prudent, but refusing anything from anyone seems a bit on the extreme
> side. To each his own of course so if it works for you that is your
right.
>
> If the responder would have said "I'm leery of dloading your zip file", I
> could have respected that and dealt with it, but you and I both know he
> probably didn't pay attention to the whole post.
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE2541.7926A297@sympatico.ca...
> > In these days of microcrap and all it's holes, there is no way in hell I
> > would open a homemade zip file from anyone on the internet!
> >
> > Most sane people wouldn't open it either so you are missing a lot of
> > potential customers.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Tom Greening wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a M-416 trailer in real good shape. I added a diamond plate
> aluminum
> > > hinged lid to it to keep all my stuff dry, herc lined the bed, and
> painted
> > > the whole mess (minus the lid). I also bought a new tent and hardware
> made
> > > for one of those motorcycle pull along campers, and then modified
things
> so
> > > it works on the trailer. The whole tent deal is removable by undoing 4
> > > latches, leaving the lid still attached to the trailer. The lid will
> stay in
> > > the open position by virtue of some hatch-back style shocks. Give me
an
> > > email address and I can send a zip file full of pictures. Fire away
with
> any
> > > questions you may have, but for now, please try to keep it to
interested
> > > buyers. As far as I'm concerned this kicks the snot out of any
Tent-Trax
> > > style camper. The tent is bigger (a queen size inflatable mattress
fits
> > > perfect), it's got a boatload more storage space, and it just plain
> looks
> > > better behind a Jeep.
> > >
> > > http://home.neo.rr.com/jeepnrocks/JeepPhotos/002.jpg
> > >
> > > Ohio
> > >
> > > Ok, response has been bigger than I imagined so instead of replying to
> > > individuals, I've posted a zip file with pics and price.
> > >
> > > http://home.neo.rr.com/jeepnrocks/Je...er/trailer.zip
>
>

Dave Milne

OTOH, there is little point in compressing jpg files as the jpg files are
already compressed, and the saving is minimal.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:yLrHe.45447$zY4.4967@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> So if Jerry B, or Nate C, or everyone's favorite son Brother Bill wanted
to
> send you a zip you'd refuse it? I'd certainly take one from you or any
of
> the others. We may or may not have had serious disagreements (especially
in
> Bills' case) but I don't think he'd be so malicious as to send me
something
> destructive. I'd still scan it, but I'd take responsibility for keeping
my
> house clean so to speak. That's not to say I go downloading stuff *****
> nilly from warez sites, or crack sites, etc. Exercising some caution is
> just prudent, but refusing anything from anyone seems a bit on the extreme
> side. To each his own of course so if it works for you that is your
right.
>
> If the responder would have said "I'm leery of dloading your zip file", I
> could have respected that and dealt with it, but you and I both know he
> probably didn't pay attention to the whole post.
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE2541.7926A297@sympatico.ca...
> > In these days of microcrap and all it's holes, there is no way in hell I
> > would open a homemade zip file from anyone on the internet!
> >
> > Most sane people wouldn't open it either so you are missing a lot of
> > potential customers.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Tom Greening wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a M-416 trailer in real good shape. I added a diamond plate
> aluminum
> > > hinged lid to it to keep all my stuff dry, herc lined the bed, and
> painted
> > > the whole mess (minus the lid). I also bought a new tent and hardware
> made
> > > for one of those motorcycle pull along campers, and then modified
things
> so
> > > it works on the trailer. The whole tent deal is removable by undoing 4
> > > latches, leaving the lid still attached to the trailer. The lid will
> stay in
> > > the open position by virtue of some hatch-back style shocks. Give me
an
> > > email address and I can send a zip file full of pictures. Fire away
with
> any
> > > questions you may have, but for now, please try to keep it to
interested
> > > buyers. As far as I'm concerned this kicks the snot out of any
Tent-Trax
> > > style camper. The tent is bigger (a queen size inflatable mattress
fits
> > > perfect), it's got a boatload more storage space, and it just plain
> looks
> > > better behind a Jeep.
> > >
> > > http://home.neo.rr.com/jeepnrocks/JeepPhotos/002.jpg
> > >
> > > Ohio
> > >
> > > Ok, response has been bigger than I imagined so instead of replying to
> > > individuals, I've posted a zip file with pics and price.
> > >
> > > http://home.neo.rr.com/jeepnrocks/Je...er/trailer.zip
>
>

Dave Milne

OTOH, there is little point in compressing jpg files as the jpg files are
already compressed, and the saving is minimal.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:yLrHe.45447$zY4.4967@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> So if Jerry B, or Nate C, or everyone's favorite son Brother Bill wanted
to
> send you a zip you'd refuse it? I'd certainly take one from you or any
of
> the others. We may or may not have had serious disagreements (especially
in
> Bills' case) but I don't think he'd be so malicious as to send me
something
> destructive. I'd still scan it, but I'd take responsibility for keeping
my
> house clean so to speak. That's not to say I go downloading stuff *****
> nilly from warez sites, or crack sites, etc. Exercising some caution is
> just prudent, but refusing anything from anyone seems a bit on the extreme
> side. To each his own of course so if it works for you that is your
right.
>
> If the responder would have said "I'm leery of dloading your zip file", I
> could have respected that and dealt with it, but you and I both know he
> probably didn't pay attention to the whole post.
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE2541.7926A297@sympatico.ca...
> > In these days of microcrap and all it's holes, there is no way in hell I
> > would open a homemade zip file from anyone on the internet!
> >
> > Most sane people wouldn't open it either so you are missing a lot of
> > potential customers.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Tom Greening wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a M-416 trailer in real good shape. I added a diamond plate
> aluminum
> > > hinged lid to it to keep all my stuff dry, herc lined the bed, and
> painted
> > > the whole mess (minus the lid). I also bought a new tent and hardware
> made
> > > for one of those motorcycle pull along campers, and then modified
things
> so
> > > it works on the trailer. The whole tent deal is removable by undoing 4
> > > latches, leaving the lid still attached to the trailer. The lid will
> stay in
> > > the open position by virtue of some hatch-back style shocks. Give me
an
> > > email address and I can send a zip file full of pictures. Fire away
with
> any
> > > questions you may have, but for now, please try to keep it to
interested
> > > buyers. As far as I'm concerned this kicks the snot out of any
Tent-Trax
> > > style camper. The tent is bigger (a queen size inflatable mattress
fits
> > > perfect), it's got a boatload more storage space, and it just plain
> looks
> > > better behind a Jeep.
> > >
> > > http://home.neo.rr.com/jeepnrocks/JeepPhotos/002.jpg
> > >
> > > Ohio
> > >
> > > Ok, response has been bigger than I imagined so instead of replying to
> > > individuals, I've posted a zip file with pics and price.
> > >
> > > http://home.neo.rr.com/jeepnrocks/Je...er/trailer.zip
>
>

Dave Milne

OTOH, there is little point in compressing jpg files as the jpg files are
already compressed, and the saving is minimal.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:yLrHe.45447$zY4.4967@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> So if Jerry B, or Nate C, or everyone's favorite son Brother Bill wanted
to
> send you a zip you'd refuse it? I'd certainly take one from you or any
of
> the others. We may or may not have had serious disagreements (especially
in
> Bills' case) but I don't think he'd be so malicious as to send me
something
> destructive. I'd still scan it, but I'd take responsibility for keeping
my
> house clean so to speak. That's not to say I go downloading stuff *****
> nilly from warez sites, or crack sites, etc. Exercising some caution is
> just prudent, but refusing anything from anyone seems a bit on the extreme
> side. To each his own of course so if it works for you that is your
right.
>
> If the responder would have said "I'm leery of dloading your zip file", I
> could have respected that and dealt with it, but you and I both know he
> probably didn't pay attention to the whole post.
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE2541.7926A297@sympatico.ca...
> > In these days of microcrap and all it's holes, there is no way in hell I
> > would open a homemade zip file from anyone on the internet!
> >
> > Most sane people wouldn't open it either so you are missing a lot of
> > potential customers.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Tom Greening wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a M-416 trailer in real good shape. I added a diamond plate
> aluminum
> > > hinged lid to it to keep all my stuff dry, herc lined the bed, and
> painted
> > > the whole mess (minus the lid). I also bought a new tent and hardware
> made
> > > for one of those motorcycle pull along campers, and then modified
things
> so
> > > it works on the trailer. The whole tent deal is removable by undoing 4
> > > latches, leaving the lid still attached to the trailer. The lid will
> stay in
> > > the open position by virtue of some hatch-back style shocks. Give me
an
> > > email address and I can send a zip file full of pictures. Fire away
with
> any
> > > questions you may have, but for now, please try to keep it to
interested
> > > buyers. As far as I'm concerned this kicks the snot out of any
Tent-Trax
> > > style camper. The tent is bigger (a queen size inflatable mattress
fits
> > > perfect), it's got a boatload more storage space, and it just plain
> looks
> > > better behind a Jeep.
> > >
> > > http://home.neo.rr.com/jeepnrocks/JeepPhotos/002.jpg
> > >
> > > Ohio
> > >
> > > Ok, response has been bigger than I imagined so instead of replying to
> > > individuals, I've posted a zip file with pics and price.
> > >
> > > http://home.neo.rr.com/jeepnrocks/Je...er/trailer.zip
>
>

Billy Ray

That being said perhaps it might be better if you posted your pix on one of
the free services like Sony's www.imagestation.com which is the popular one
with this group or www.shutterfly.com, or one of the many others.


"Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message
news:N8tHe.45457$zY4.16585@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com. ..
> No harm, no foul right? No bigee.
>
> I'm not especially fond of American cities either. For all our wealth and
> prosperity, and the ridiculously young age of our nation, most of our
> major
> cities leave something to be desired. Check behind the facade and they
> are
> just a little bit disappointing.
>
> Now someplace like Japan for instance....shoot, even their homeless have
> more class than ours. ;)
>
>
> "Billy Ray" <Billy_Ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:88903$42ee5b07$42a1cc8c$8953@FUSE.NET...
>> You are quite right, I was improper in my chastisement.
>>
>> That last time I was in your area was the last week of June 2004 which
>> for
>> other reasons was not the best time in my life and my recent trip via
>> De-troit across the lake hasn't improved my opinion of big cities or that
>> particular area of the US.
>>
>> I cannot accurately comment on the current pollution situation, but I am
>> familiar with the incident when the fire department was called when the
>> river was on fire <g>.
>>
>> I have no valid excuse for my obstinate comment. My only explanation is
> that
>> my current attitude has nothing to do with you and was uncalled for
>> .
>
>