Front end alignment
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Re: Front end alignment
I would want to find out 'why' the camber was off. Every time mine has
been off, I have had worn out parts.
The first clue my hub is eating a wheel bearing or they need repacking
is when I approach my vehicle from the front and notice one wheel isn't
perfectly straight up and down. I then fix that and if it still is off
I suspect a worn out ball joint and I had just that as well.
The bearings on yours aren't serviceable, but you can check them. If
you jack up the vehicle and wiggle the tire and have easy movement,
suspect a bearing about to fail. If the wheel is tight, then it's on to
checking ball joints.
You can see a bad one usually if you are under watching while someone
turns the steering from pin to pin. When it pins out and starts to
groan, the ball joint might show movement. You might have to jack the
wheel up and use a pry bar to see if you can make a joint move.
You also can sometimes feel them if you have the vehicle on the ground
and grab the top of the tire and rock it hard. Put all your weight into
in so the vehicle is rocking side to side. If you feel a clunk or
shuffle, suspect ball joint if the bearing has already checked out ok.
A visual is all it takes sometimes too. Have a close look at the ball
joints on both sides for signs of rust at the boot or for signs it isn't
lined up the same as the one on the other side. Just before they blow
out, you can usually see the bolt isn't centered over the socket side.
You can use a straight edge ruler to help eyeball a line sometimes.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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noneyabusiness wrote:
>
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...
been off, I have had worn out parts.
The first clue my hub is eating a wheel bearing or they need repacking
is when I approach my vehicle from the front and notice one wheel isn't
perfectly straight up and down. I then fix that and if it still is off
I suspect a worn out ball joint and I had just that as well.
The bearings on yours aren't serviceable, but you can check them. If
you jack up the vehicle and wiggle the tire and have easy movement,
suspect a bearing about to fail. If the wheel is tight, then it's on to
checking ball joints.
You can see a bad one usually if you are under watching while someone
turns the steering from pin to pin. When it pins out and starts to
groan, the ball joint might show movement. You might have to jack the
wheel up and use a pry bar to see if you can make a joint move.
You also can sometimes feel them if you have the vehicle on the ground
and grab the top of the tire and rock it hard. Put all your weight into
in so the vehicle is rocking side to side. If you feel a clunk or
shuffle, suspect ball joint if the bearing has already checked out ok.
A visual is all it takes sometimes too. Have a close look at the ball
joints on both sides for signs of rust at the boot or for signs it isn't
lined up the same as the one on the other side. Just before they blow
out, you can usually see the bolt isn't centered over the socket side.
You can use a straight edge ruler to help eyeball a line sometimes.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneyabusiness wrote:
>
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...
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Re: Front end alignment
I would want to find out 'why' the camber was off. Every time mine has
been off, I have had worn out parts.
The first clue my hub is eating a wheel bearing or they need repacking
is when I approach my vehicle from the front and notice one wheel isn't
perfectly straight up and down. I then fix that and if it still is off
I suspect a worn out ball joint and I had just that as well.
The bearings on yours aren't serviceable, but you can check them. If
you jack up the vehicle and wiggle the tire and have easy movement,
suspect a bearing about to fail. If the wheel is tight, then it's on to
checking ball joints.
You can see a bad one usually if you are under watching while someone
turns the steering from pin to pin. When it pins out and starts to
groan, the ball joint might show movement. You might have to jack the
wheel up and use a pry bar to see if you can make a joint move.
You also can sometimes feel them if you have the vehicle on the ground
and grab the top of the tire and rock it hard. Put all your weight into
in so the vehicle is rocking side to side. If you feel a clunk or
shuffle, suspect ball joint if the bearing has already checked out ok.
A visual is all it takes sometimes too. Have a close look at the ball
joints on both sides for signs of rust at the boot or for signs it isn't
lined up the same as the one on the other side. Just before they blow
out, you can usually see the bolt isn't centered over the socket side.
You can use a straight edge ruler to help eyeball a line sometimes.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneyabusiness wrote:
>
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...
been off, I have had worn out parts.
The first clue my hub is eating a wheel bearing or they need repacking
is when I approach my vehicle from the front and notice one wheel isn't
perfectly straight up and down. I then fix that and if it still is off
I suspect a worn out ball joint and I had just that as well.
The bearings on yours aren't serviceable, but you can check them. If
you jack up the vehicle and wiggle the tire and have easy movement,
suspect a bearing about to fail. If the wheel is tight, then it's on to
checking ball joints.
You can see a bad one usually if you are under watching while someone
turns the steering from pin to pin. When it pins out and starts to
groan, the ball joint might show movement. You might have to jack the
wheel up and use a pry bar to see if you can make a joint move.
You also can sometimes feel them if you have the vehicle on the ground
and grab the top of the tire and rock it hard. Put all your weight into
in so the vehicle is rocking side to side. If you feel a clunk or
shuffle, suspect ball joint if the bearing has already checked out ok.
A visual is all it takes sometimes too. Have a close look at the ball
joints on both sides for signs of rust at the boot or for signs it isn't
lined up the same as the one on the other side. Just before they blow
out, you can usually see the bolt isn't centered over the socket side.
You can use a straight edge ruler to help eyeball a line sometimes.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneyabusiness wrote:
>
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...
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Re: Front end alignment
I would want to find out 'why' the camber was off. Every time mine has
been off, I have had worn out parts.
The first clue my hub is eating a wheel bearing or they need repacking
is when I approach my vehicle from the front and notice one wheel isn't
perfectly straight up and down. I then fix that and if it still is off
I suspect a worn out ball joint and I had just that as well.
The bearings on yours aren't serviceable, but you can check them. If
you jack up the vehicle and wiggle the tire and have easy movement,
suspect a bearing about to fail. If the wheel is tight, then it's on to
checking ball joints.
You can see a bad one usually if you are under watching while someone
turns the steering from pin to pin. When it pins out and starts to
groan, the ball joint might show movement. You might have to jack the
wheel up and use a pry bar to see if you can make a joint move.
You also can sometimes feel them if you have the vehicle on the ground
and grab the top of the tire and rock it hard. Put all your weight into
in so the vehicle is rocking side to side. If you feel a clunk or
shuffle, suspect ball joint if the bearing has already checked out ok.
A visual is all it takes sometimes too. Have a close look at the ball
joints on both sides for signs of rust at the boot or for signs it isn't
lined up the same as the one on the other side. Just before they blow
out, you can usually see the bolt isn't centered over the socket side.
You can use a straight edge ruler to help eyeball a line sometimes.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneyabusiness wrote:
>
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...
been off, I have had worn out parts.
The first clue my hub is eating a wheel bearing or they need repacking
is when I approach my vehicle from the front and notice one wheel isn't
perfectly straight up and down. I then fix that and if it still is off
I suspect a worn out ball joint and I had just that as well.
The bearings on yours aren't serviceable, but you can check them. If
you jack up the vehicle and wiggle the tire and have easy movement,
suspect a bearing about to fail. If the wheel is tight, then it's on to
checking ball joints.
You can see a bad one usually if you are under watching while someone
turns the steering from pin to pin. When it pins out and starts to
groan, the ball joint might show movement. You might have to jack the
wheel up and use a pry bar to see if you can make a joint move.
You also can sometimes feel them if you have the vehicle on the ground
and grab the top of the tire and rock it hard. Put all your weight into
in so the vehicle is rocking side to side. If you feel a clunk or
shuffle, suspect ball joint if the bearing has already checked out ok.
A visual is all it takes sometimes too. Have a close look at the ball
joints on both sides for signs of rust at the boot or for signs it isn't
lined up the same as the one on the other side. Just before they blow
out, you can usually see the bolt isn't centered over the socket side.
You can use a straight edge ruler to help eyeball a line sometimes.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
noneyabusiness wrote:
>
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...
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Re: Front end alignment
OK, it seems I ( AND the mechanic) misread the printout.
Per their (Firestone) printout. the reference range for Camber is -.75
to .50 (degrees?). My left front is .19 and the right front is .30.
This is within the range, and on an earlier inspection they found
nothing loose in the front end, so (knock on wood) everything should
be good :)
....
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:43:17 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>I would want to find out 'why' the camber was off. Every time mine has
>been off, I have had worn out parts.
>
>The first clue my hub is eating a wheel bearing or they need repacking
>is when I approach my vehicle from the front and notice one wheel isn't
>perfectly straight up and down. I then fix that and if it still is off
>I suspect a worn out ball joint and I had just that as well.
>
>The bearings on yours aren't serviceable, but you can check them. If
>you jack up the vehicle and wiggle the tire and have easy movement,
>suspect a bearing about to fail. If the wheel is tight, then it's on to
>checking ball joints.
>
>You can see a bad one usually if you are under watching while someone
>turns the steering from pin to pin. When it pins out and starts to
>groan, the ball joint might show movement. You might have to jack the
>wheel up and use a pry bar to see if you can make a joint move.
>
>You also can sometimes feel them if you have the vehicle on the ground
>and grab the top of the tire and rock it hard. Put all your weight into
>in so the vehicle is rocking side to side. If you feel a clunk or
>shuffle, suspect ball joint if the bearing has already checked out ok.
>
>A visual is all it takes sometimes too. Have a close look at the ball
>joints on both sides for signs of rust at the boot or for signs it isn't
>lined up the same as the one on the other side. Just before they blow
>out, you can usually see the bolt isn't centered over the socket side.
>You can use a straight edge ruler to help eyeball a line sometimes.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>noneyabusiness wrote:
>>
>> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>>
>> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
>> ...?!?
>>
>> Is this so?
>>
>> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
>> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
>> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> ...
Guest
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Re: Front end alignment
OK, it seems I ( AND the mechanic) misread the printout.
Per their (Firestone) printout. the reference range for Camber is -.75
to .50 (degrees?). My left front is .19 and the right front is .30.
This is within the range, and on an earlier inspection they found
nothing loose in the front end, so (knock on wood) everything should
be good :)
....
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:43:17 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>I would want to find out 'why' the camber was off. Every time mine has
>been off, I have had worn out parts.
>
>The first clue my hub is eating a wheel bearing or they need repacking
>is when I approach my vehicle from the front and notice one wheel isn't
>perfectly straight up and down. I then fix that and if it still is off
>I suspect a worn out ball joint and I had just that as well.
>
>The bearings on yours aren't serviceable, but you can check them. If
>you jack up the vehicle and wiggle the tire and have easy movement,
>suspect a bearing about to fail. If the wheel is tight, then it's on to
>checking ball joints.
>
>You can see a bad one usually if you are under watching while someone
>turns the steering from pin to pin. When it pins out and starts to
>groan, the ball joint might show movement. You might have to jack the
>wheel up and use a pry bar to see if you can make a joint move.
>
>You also can sometimes feel them if you have the vehicle on the ground
>and grab the top of the tire and rock it hard. Put all your weight into
>in so the vehicle is rocking side to side. If you feel a clunk or
>shuffle, suspect ball joint if the bearing has already checked out ok.
>
>A visual is all it takes sometimes too. Have a close look at the ball
>joints on both sides for signs of rust at the boot or for signs it isn't
>lined up the same as the one on the other side. Just before they blow
>out, you can usually see the bolt isn't centered over the socket side.
>You can use a straight edge ruler to help eyeball a line sometimes.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>noneyabusiness wrote:
>>
>> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>>
>> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
>> ...?!?
>>
>> Is this so?
>>
>> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
>> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
>> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> ...
Guest
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Re: Front end alignment
OK, it seems I ( AND the mechanic) misread the printout.
Per their (Firestone) printout. the reference range for Camber is -.75
to .50 (degrees?). My left front is .19 and the right front is .30.
This is within the range, and on an earlier inspection they found
nothing loose in the front end, so (knock on wood) everything should
be good :)
....
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:43:17 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>I would want to find out 'why' the camber was off. Every time mine has
>been off, I have had worn out parts.
>
>The first clue my hub is eating a wheel bearing or they need repacking
>is when I approach my vehicle from the front and notice one wheel isn't
>perfectly straight up and down. I then fix that and if it still is off
>I suspect a worn out ball joint and I had just that as well.
>
>The bearings on yours aren't serviceable, but you can check them. If
>you jack up the vehicle and wiggle the tire and have easy movement,
>suspect a bearing about to fail. If the wheel is tight, then it's on to
>checking ball joints.
>
>You can see a bad one usually if you are under watching while someone
>turns the steering from pin to pin. When it pins out and starts to
>groan, the ball joint might show movement. You might have to jack the
>wheel up and use a pry bar to see if you can make a joint move.
>
>You also can sometimes feel them if you have the vehicle on the ground
>and grab the top of the tire and rock it hard. Put all your weight into
>in so the vehicle is rocking side to side. If you feel a clunk or
>shuffle, suspect ball joint if the bearing has already checked out ok.
>
>A visual is all it takes sometimes too. Have a close look at the ball
>joints on both sides for signs of rust at the boot or for signs it isn't
>lined up the same as the one on the other side. Just before they blow
>out, you can usually see the bolt isn't centered over the socket side.
>You can use a straight edge ruler to help eyeball a line sometimes.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>noneyabusiness wrote:
>>
>> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>>
>> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
>> ...?!?
>>
>> Is this so?
>>
>> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
>> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
>> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> ...
Guest
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Re: Front end alignment
OK, it seems I ( AND the mechanic) misread the printout.
Per their (Firestone) printout. the reference range for Camber is -.75
to .50 (degrees?). My left front is .19 and the right front is .30.
This is within the range, and on an earlier inspection they found
nothing loose in the front end, so (knock on wood) everything should
be good :)
....
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:43:17 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:
>I would want to find out 'why' the camber was off. Every time mine has
>been off, I have had worn out parts.
>
>The first clue my hub is eating a wheel bearing or they need repacking
>is when I approach my vehicle from the front and notice one wheel isn't
>perfectly straight up and down. I then fix that and if it still is off
>I suspect a worn out ball joint and I had just that as well.
>
>The bearings on yours aren't serviceable, but you can check them. If
>you jack up the vehicle and wiggle the tire and have easy movement,
>suspect a bearing about to fail. If the wheel is tight, then it's on to
>checking ball joints.
>
>You can see a bad one usually if you are under watching while someone
>turns the steering from pin to pin. When it pins out and starts to
>groan, the ball joint might show movement. You might have to jack the
>wheel up and use a pry bar to see if you can make a joint move.
>
>You also can sometimes feel them if you have the vehicle on the ground
>and grab the top of the tire and rock it hard. Put all your weight into
>in so the vehicle is rocking side to side. If you feel a clunk or
>shuffle, suspect ball joint if the bearing has already checked out ok.
>
>A visual is all it takes sometimes too. Have a close look at the ball
>joints on both sides for signs of rust at the boot or for signs it isn't
>lined up the same as the one on the other side. Just before they blow
>out, you can usually see the bolt isn't centered over the socket side.
>You can use a straight edge ruler to help eyeball a line sometimes.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>noneyabusiness wrote:
>>
>> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>>
>> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
>> ...?!?
>>
>> Is this so?
>>
>> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
>> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
>> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> ...
Guest
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Re: Front end alignment
jeep does offer offset ball joints kits that allow a camber adjsutment
and caster can be tweaked by the lower control arms adjustments
noneyabusiness wrote:
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...
and caster can be tweaked by the lower control arms adjustments
noneyabusiness wrote:
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Front end alignment
jeep does offer offset ball joints kits that allow a camber adjsutment
and caster can be tweaked by the lower control arms adjustments
noneyabusiness wrote:
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...
and caster can be tweaked by the lower control arms adjustments
noneyabusiness wrote:
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Front end alignment
jeep does offer offset ball joints kits that allow a camber adjsutment
and caster can be tweaked by the lower control arms adjustments
noneyabusiness wrote:
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...
and caster can be tweaked by the lower control arms adjustments
noneyabusiness wrote:
> Just had my 95 Cherokee Sport aligned.
>
> They said that the TOE was the only setting that can be adjusted
> ...?!?
>
> Is this so?
>
> Their printout indicated that the camber was out of spec (don't
> remember the specs...the paper is out in the Jeep) but they said it
> wasn't adjustable. How worried should I be about this??
>
> TIA
>
> ...