Friction modifier for Rubicon?
Guest
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If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
confusing you.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you which
> model has standard or optional equipment
> They certainly are confusing.
> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Good advice Mike!
>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>> the manual says it does.
>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>> Cheers
>
>
modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
confusing you.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you which
> model has standard or optional equipment
> They certainly are confusing.
> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Good advice Mike!
>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>> the manual says it does.
>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>> Cheers
>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Yep, and they call the Rubi's 4wd system Rock Trac or something like
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Yep, and they call the Rubi's 4wd system Rock Trac or something like
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
Yep, and they call the Rubi's 4wd system Rock Trac or something like
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
The Rubicon Dana 44 does not have Trak Lok limited slip, it has a different
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
Guest
Posts: n/a
The Rubicon Dana 44 does not have Trak Lok limited slip, it has a different
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
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The Rubicon Dana 44 does not have Trak Lok limited slip, it has a different
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>


