Friction modifier for Rubicon?
06-05-2006, 02:31 PM
#31
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Posts: n/a
Re: Friction modifier for Rubicon?
If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
confusing you.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you which
> model has standard or optional equipment
> They certainly are confusing.
> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Good advice Mike!
>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>> the manual says it does.
>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>> Cheers
>
>
modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
confusing you.
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you which
> model has standard or optional equipment
> They certainly are confusing.
> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Good advice Mike!
>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>> the manual says it does.
>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>> Cheers
>
>
06-05-2006, 03:32 PM
#32
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Posts: n/a
Re: Friction modifier for Rubicon?
Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
06-05-2006, 03:32 PM
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: Friction modifier for Rubicon?
Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
06-05-2006, 03:32 PM
#34
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Friction modifier for Rubicon?
Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
confusion began.
Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
But it's all clear now.
..
twaldron wrote:
> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs that
> got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of these
> 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what is
> confusing you.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>
>
> FrankW wrote:
>
>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>> They certainly are confusing.
>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>
>>
>> twaldron wrote:
>>
>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>
>>> tw
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>
>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>
>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>
>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>
>>>
>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
06-05-2006, 06:56 PM
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Friction modifier for Rubicon?
Yep, and they call the Rubi's 4wd system Rock Trac or something like
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
06-05-2006, 06:56 PM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Friction modifier for Rubicon?
Yep, and they call the Rubi's 4wd system Rock Trac or something like
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
06-05-2006, 06:56 PM
#37
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Friction modifier for Rubicon?
Yep, and they call the Rubi's 4wd system Rock Trac or something like
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
that just to confuse the confusion. Anyway, sound like you're on "trac" now!
tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________
FrankW wrote:
> Thanks tw I got it and verified it with the Service Rep at the Dealer
> But what's funny is as I said previously , the Spec sheet says that the
> D44 with trac-loc is standard on the Rubie as is also the differential
> with Tru-loc , also standard rather than optional. That's where the
> confusion began.
> Thinking the locker is called tru-loc, limited slip is called trac-loc
> But in reality it's a tru-loc with a helical gear limited slip.
> I have a pdf of the spec sheet if you want to see it.
> But it's all clear now.
> .
> twaldron wrote:
>
>> If you have a Rubicon, you have the Tru-Lok and do not need the
>> modifier. That is a fact and you need not go any further. Other TJs
>> that got the optional D44/Trac-Lok have a clutch based system. Most of
>> these 'manuals' cover more than one trim line and I think that is what
>> is confusing you.
>>
>> tw
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>
>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>
>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>
>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to look closer at the manual
>>> I have a copy of the 05TJ specs. This is the list which tells you
>>> which model has standard or optional equipment
>>> They certainly are confusing.
>>> In one place under "axel" it says it has the D44 with Trac-loc
>>> and under the another place under "differential" it says it has the
>>> locking diff with helical-gear limited slip unit.
>>>
>>>
>>> twaldron wrote:
>>>
>>>> The D44 w/ Trac-Lok (that you mention below) and the Rubicon's D44
>>>> with the Tru-Lok are two completely different limited slip systems.
>>>> The clutch based Trac-Lok needs the modifier and the helical gear
>>>> based Tru-Lok does not.
>>>>
>>>> tw
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>>>>
>>>> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>>>>
>>>> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>>>>
>>>> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>>> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
>>>> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
>>>> __________________________________________________ ___________________
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FrankW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good advice Mike!
>>>>> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
>>>>> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
>>>>> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
>>>>> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
>>>>> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
>>>>> the manual says it does.
>>>>> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
06-05-2006, 08:44 PM
#38
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Friction modifier for Rubicon?
The Rubicon Dana 44 does not have Trak Lok limited slip, it has a different
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
06-05-2006, 08:44 PM
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Friction modifier for Rubicon?
The Rubicon Dana 44 does not have Trak Lok limited slip, it has a different
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
06-05-2006, 08:44 PM
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Re: Friction modifier for Rubicon?
The Rubicon Dana 44 does not have Trak Lok limited slip, it has a different
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>
style limited slip in the rear.
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:qrWdncWRrPsKhxnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@magma.ca...
> Good advice Mike!
> I dug up my owners manual and it does say to use
> a friction modifier for the Dana 44 with Trac-lok.
> I also have a FSM for my older 01TJ and in it, It also says
> to use a friction modifier with the Dana 44 with Trak-lok.
> Not sure why a lot of people say it doesn't need it, when in fact
> the manual says it does.
> Gotta order a FSM for my 05TJ Rubie to remove all doubt.
> Cheers
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> Did it not come with an owners manual? It always says the fluid types
>> in there.
>>
>> I love walking in on blatant thieves with the book in hand and calling
>> them out. I call them a thief too and try to get a manager involved.
>>
>> I caught my local $tealership charging all the taxes on emission, not
>> just once, but as a matter of computer programming on the receipt. That
>> is just plain theft.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> FrankW wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, that's what I was told. But the parts guy at the Dealer says
>>>otherwise.....
>>>
>>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Nope, it is a helical gear type LS, not a clutch pack type.
>>>>
>>>>"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
>>>>news:eLSdnWQD8q3XsubZRVn-gg@magma.ca...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Does the the Rubicon rear diff need the friction modifier? or not?
>>>>>TIA.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>