Well.....Truthfully, all I got to do is look out
the window and press the control for my remote starter
towards it. Works like a charm!! :-)
But the benifits of warming the engine up first
are best. something to do with fuel economy
and stuff like that. Couple of interesting sites


http://www.ci.anchorage.ak.us/healthesd/WhyPlug20F.cfm


http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/english/media/block.cfm

bowgus wrote:
> Do what the rest of us do ... go out at lunch, start it up, and run it for a
> coupla minutes.
>
>
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:jsednSRyBvUEoHDcRVn-qQ@magma.ca...
>
>>Gi'day Group
>>This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
>>Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
>>without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
>>heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
>>a couple of hours before I leave for work.
>>Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
>>I thought about those power packs you can get
>>at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
>>I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
>>for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
>>Thoughts or comments anyone?
>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>Frank
>>
>
>
>

 

Well.....Truthfully, all I got to do is look out
the window and press the control for my remote starter
towards it. Works like a charm!! :-)
But the benifits of warming the engine up first
are best. something to do with fuel economy
and stuff like that. Couple of interesting sites


http://www.ci.anchorage.ak.us/healthesd/WhyPlug20F.cfm


http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/english/media/block.cfm

bowgus wrote:
> Do what the rest of us do ... go out at lunch, start it up, and run it for a
> coupla minutes.
>
>
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:jsednSRyBvUEoHDcRVn-qQ@magma.ca...
>
>>Gi'day Group
>>This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
>>Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
>>without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
>>heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
>>a couple of hours before I leave for work.
>>Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
>>I thought about those power packs you can get
>>at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
>>I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
>>for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
>>Thoughts or comments anyone?
>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>Frank
>>
>
>
>

 

Well.....Truthfully, all I got to do is look out
the window and press the control for my remote starter
towards it. Works like a charm!! :-)
But the benifits of warming the engine up first
are best. something to do with fuel economy
and stuff like that. Couple of interesting sites


http://www.ci.anchorage.ak.us/healthesd/WhyPlug20F.cfm


http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/english/media/block.cfm

bowgus wrote:
> Do what the rest of us do ... go out at lunch, start it up, and run it for a
> coupla minutes.
>
>
> "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> news:jsednSRyBvUEoHDcRVn-qQ@magma.ca...
>
>>Gi'day Group
>>This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
>>Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
>>without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
>>heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
>>a couple of hours before I leave for work.
>>Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
>>I thought about those power packs you can get
>>at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
>>I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
>>for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
>>Thoughts or comments anyone?
>>Thanks in advance
>>
>>Frank
>>
>
>
>

 

The one I used when I was in Wisconsin was 1500 watts, the one that
was on the Jeep when I bought it was 1000 watts (removed and trashed
shortly after I got it). Even at 100% conversion efficiency the first
would require 125 amps from the battery, the second only 83 amps.
Even the best power converters run 70-75% efficiency. You do the math
- that requires on humongous battery if it's on for hours at a
stretch.

We need Del to chime in here - in Alaska the parking lots have
electrcal outlets for those things so he might have some better
answers. My guess is that 100-200 watts would be like a mousefart in
a hurricane at -30. Now add in a wind blowing across the whole
time...

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:40:31 UTC FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:

> Hmmmm Good question
> How many watts does a block heater draw?
> I asked this question last year and seem to
> recall being told that it draws 75 watts.
> I'm no electrical engineer but 75 watts is half
> of 300 no?
> True those batteries are small. What is the amp/hour rating
> anyway?
>
> John Davies wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:47:18 -0500, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I thought about those power packs you can get
> >>at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> >>I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> >>for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> >>Thoughts or comments anyone?
> >>Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>Frank
> >
> >
> > I think it would be pretty much worthless - those portable power packs
> > have pretty wimpy batteries. Now if you got a couple of 6 v golf cart
> > batteries with an inverter sized correctly for the wattage of your
> > block heater.... that might work.
> >
> > How many watts/ amps does your heater draw?
> >
> > I think a more sensible approach would be to just tuck a space blanket
> > around the engine when you park to trap as much heat as possible, and
> > maybe drive to lunch on really cold days to keep the block warm.
> > Remembering, of course, to remove the blanket every time ;)
> >
> > John
> >
>


--
Will Honea

 

The one I used when I was in Wisconsin was 1500 watts, the one that
was on the Jeep when I bought it was 1000 watts (removed and trashed
shortly after I got it). Even at 100% conversion efficiency the first
would require 125 amps from the battery, the second only 83 amps.
Even the best power converters run 70-75% efficiency. You do the math
- that requires on humongous battery if it's on for hours at a
stretch.

We need Del to chime in here - in Alaska the parking lots have
electrcal outlets for those things so he might have some better
answers. My guess is that 100-200 watts would be like a mousefart in
a hurricane at -30. Now add in a wind blowing across the whole
time...

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:40:31 UTC FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:

> Hmmmm Good question
> How many watts does a block heater draw?
> I asked this question last year and seem to
> recall being told that it draws 75 watts.
> I'm no electrical engineer but 75 watts is half
> of 300 no?
> True those batteries are small. What is the amp/hour rating
> anyway?
>
> John Davies wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:47:18 -0500, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I thought about those power packs you can get
> >>at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> >>I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> >>for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> >>Thoughts or comments anyone?
> >>Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>Frank
> >
> >
> > I think it would be pretty much worthless - those portable power packs
> > have pretty wimpy batteries. Now if you got a couple of 6 v golf cart
> > batteries with an inverter sized correctly for the wattage of your
> > block heater.... that might work.
> >
> > How many watts/ amps does your heater draw?
> >
> > I think a more sensible approach would be to just tuck a space blanket
> > around the engine when you park to trap as much heat as possible, and
> > maybe drive to lunch on really cold days to keep the block warm.
> > Remembering, of course, to remove the blanket every time ;)
> >
> > John
> >
>


--
Will Honea

 

The one I used when I was in Wisconsin was 1500 watts, the one that
was on the Jeep when I bought it was 1000 watts (removed and trashed
shortly after I got it). Even at 100% conversion efficiency the first
would require 125 amps from the battery, the second only 83 amps.
Even the best power converters run 70-75% efficiency. You do the math
- that requires on humongous battery if it's on for hours at a
stretch.

We need Del to chime in here - in Alaska the parking lots have
electrcal outlets for those things so he might have some better
answers. My guess is that 100-200 watts would be like a mousefart in
a hurricane at -30. Now add in a wind blowing across the whole
time...

On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 17:40:31 UTC FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:

> Hmmmm Good question
> How many watts does a block heater draw?
> I asked this question last year and seem to
> recall being told that it draws 75 watts.
> I'm no electrical engineer but 75 watts is half
> of 300 no?
> True those batteries are small. What is the amp/hour rating
> anyway?
>
> John Davies wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:47:18 -0500, FrankW <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I thought about those power packs you can get
> >>at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> >>I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> >>for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> >>Thoughts or comments anyone?
> >>Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>Frank
> >
> >
> > I think it would be pretty much worthless - those portable power packs
> > have pretty wimpy batteries. Now if you got a couple of 6 v golf cart
> > batteries with an inverter sized correctly for the wattage of your
> > block heater.... that might work.
> >
> > How many watts/ amps does your heater draw?
> >
> > I think a more sensible approach would be to just tuck a space blanket
> > around the engine when you park to trap as much heat as possible, and
> > maybe drive to lunch on really cold days to keep the block warm.
> > Remembering, of course, to remove the blanket every time ;)
> >
> > John
> >
>


--
Will Honea

 

Why you I oughta :-) ... I sometimes miss the aftermarket remote I had on
the Subaru. It had the additional feature, as yours probably does, to start
up every so many hours, run for a few minutes, and shut off. Great for those
nights out downtown till 3:00 am, when the temps start hitting the -30C or
so mark. Maybe I'll get another ... when I'm old, and fragile ... like you
:-)

"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:v4SdnbtTG4V9yHPcRVn-1g@magma.ca...
> Well.....Truthfully, all I got to do is look out
> the window and press the control for my remote starter
> towards it. Works like a charm!! :-)
> But the benifits of warming the engine up first
> are best. something to do with fuel economy
> and stuff like that. Couple of interesting sites
>
>
> http://www.ci.anchorage.ak.us/healthesd/WhyPlug20F.cfm
>
>
> http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/english/media/block.cfm
>
> bowgus wrote:
> > Do what the rest of us do ... go out at lunch, start it up, and run it
for a
> > coupla minutes.
> >
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:jsednSRyBvUEoHDcRVn-qQ@magma.ca...
> >
> >>Gi'day Group
> >>This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
> >>Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
> >>without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
> >>heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
> >>a couple of hours before I leave for work.
> >>Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
> >>I thought about those power packs you can get
> >>at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> >>I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> >>for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> >>Thoughts or comments anyone?
> >>Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>Frank
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

 

Why you I oughta :-) ... I sometimes miss the aftermarket remote I had on
the Subaru. It had the additional feature, as yours probably does, to start
up every so many hours, run for a few minutes, and shut off. Great for those
nights out downtown till 3:00 am, when the temps start hitting the -30C or
so mark. Maybe I'll get another ... when I'm old, and fragile ... like you
:-)

"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:v4SdnbtTG4V9yHPcRVn-1g@magma.ca...
> Well.....Truthfully, all I got to do is look out
> the window and press the control for my remote starter
> towards it. Works like a charm!! :-)
> But the benifits of warming the engine up first
> are best. something to do with fuel economy
> and stuff like that. Couple of interesting sites
>
>
> http://www.ci.anchorage.ak.us/healthesd/WhyPlug20F.cfm
>
>
> http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/english/media/block.cfm
>
> bowgus wrote:
> > Do what the rest of us do ... go out at lunch, start it up, and run it
for a
> > coupla minutes.
> >
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:jsednSRyBvUEoHDcRVn-qQ@magma.ca...
> >
> >>Gi'day Group
> >>This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
> >>Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
> >>without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
> >>heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
> >>a couple of hours before I leave for work.
> >>Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
> >>I thought about those power packs you can get
> >>at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> >>I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> >>for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> >>Thoughts or comments anyone?
> >>Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>Frank
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

 

Why you I oughta :-) ... I sometimes miss the aftermarket remote I had on
the Subaru. It had the additional feature, as yours probably does, to start
up every so many hours, run for a few minutes, and shut off. Great for those
nights out downtown till 3:00 am, when the temps start hitting the -30C or
so mark. Maybe I'll get another ... when I'm old, and fragile ... like you
:-)

"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:v4SdnbtTG4V9yHPcRVn-1g@magma.ca...
> Well.....Truthfully, all I got to do is look out
> the window and press the control for my remote starter
> towards it. Works like a charm!! :-)
> But the benifits of warming the engine up first
> are best. something to do with fuel economy
> and stuff like that. Couple of interesting sites
>
>
> http://www.ci.anchorage.ak.us/healthesd/WhyPlug20F.cfm
>
>
> http://oee.nrcan.gc.ca/english/media/block.cfm
>
> bowgus wrote:
> > Do what the rest of us do ... go out at lunch, start it up, and run it
for a
> > coupla minutes.
> >
> >
> > "FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
> > news:jsednSRyBvUEoHDcRVn-qQ@magma.ca...
> >
> >>Gi'day Group
> >>This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
> >>Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
> >>without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
> >>heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
> >>a couple of hours before I leave for work.
> >>Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
> >>I thought about those power packs you can get
> >>at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> >>I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> >>for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> >>Thoughts or comments anyone?
> >>Thanks in advance
> >>
> >>Frank
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

 

I have a WIRELESS car starter.... Lol
i push the button from the bed in morning and it's warm and hot before going
to work.

i can't live without remote start.
My 2 cents,

278,000 Km start every morning without been plug,
Mobil1 Synthetic 5-30....

Pat



"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> a écrit dans le message de news:
iYiHd.11112$sF5.5391@okepread06...
> FrankW did pass the time by typing:
>> Gi'day Group
>> This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
>> Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
>> without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
>> heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
>> a couple of hours before I leave for work.
>> Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
>> I thought about those power packs you can get
>> at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
>> I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
>> for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
>> Thoughts or comments anyone?
>> Thanks in advance
>
> Not enough power, not even close. It would drain flat
> in about 5 min.
>
> Stick cardboard in front of the radiator to block wind,
> that's about all you can do. The other option is to go
> out every couple of hours to run the engine.
>
> I vaguely remember something called an "engine blanket"
> But that's probably of no use these days. Too many
> doodads and thingamabobs stuck to the outside.
>
> Severe weather places use a coolant thermos that keeps a
> gallon or more of the vehicles coolant in an inusulated
> bottle so it can be used to warm up the engine. Hybrids also
> use it to even out heat cycles on the gas engine and to provide
> internal heat.
>
> --
> DougW
>