L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Frank,
Sure glad we have global warming, imagine what today's Minnesota
-54 Fahrenheit would have been.
Drop a note in the suggestion box to have remote power outlets put
in the parking lot, or you quit.
I think I'll go to the Beach:
http://cams04.surfline.com/jpeg/cap20/latest0.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

FrankW wrote:
>
> Gi'day Group
> This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
> Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
> without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
> heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
> a couple of hours before I leave for work.
> Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
> I thought about those power packs you can get
> at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> Thoughts or comments anyone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Frank

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Frank,
Sure glad we have global warming, imagine what today's Minnesota
-54 Fahrenheit would have been.
Drop a note in the suggestion box to have remote power outlets put
in the parking lot, or you quit.
I think I'll go to the Beach:
http://cams04.surfline.com/jpeg/cap20/latest0.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

FrankW wrote:
>
> Gi'day Group
> This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
> Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
> without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
> heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
> a couple of hours before I leave for work.
> Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
> I thought about those power packs you can get
> at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> Thoughts or comments anyone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Frank

Snow

Bill you cruel bastard... nice but cruel ..lol

I'll be sure to send a picture of the nice lake I'll be on in the summer,
right around your forest fire season :)

Snow...

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41ED6DD0.7F74C820@***.net...
> Hi Frank,
> Sure glad we have global warming, imagine what today's Minnesota
> -54 Fahrenheit would have been.
> Drop a note in the suggestion box to have remote power outlets put
> in the parking lot, or you quit.
> I think I'll go to the Beach:
> http://cams04.surfline.com/jpeg/cap20/latest0.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> FrankW wrote:
>>
>> Gi'day Group
>> This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
>> Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
>> without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
>> heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
>> a couple of hours before I leave for work.
>> Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
>> I thought about those power packs you can get
>> at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
>> I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
>> for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
>> Thoughts or comments anyone?
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Frank

Snow

Bill you cruel bastard... nice but cruel ..lol

I'll be sure to send a picture of the nice lake I'll be on in the summer,
right around your forest fire season :)

Snow...

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41ED6DD0.7F74C820@***.net...
> Hi Frank,
> Sure glad we have global warming, imagine what today's Minnesota
> -54 Fahrenheit would have been.
> Drop a note in the suggestion box to have remote power outlets put
> in the parking lot, or you quit.
> I think I'll go to the Beach:
> http://cams04.surfline.com/jpeg/cap20/latest0.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> FrankW wrote:
>>
>> Gi'day Group
>> This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
>> Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
>> without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
>> heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
>> a couple of hours before I leave for work.
>> Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
>> I thought about those power packs you can get
>> at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
>> I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
>> for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
>> Thoughts or comments anyone?
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Frank

Snow

Bill you cruel bastard... nice but cruel ..lol

I'll be sure to send a picture of the nice lake I'll be on in the summer,
right around your forest fire season :)

Snow...

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:41ED6DD0.7F74C820@***.net...
> Hi Frank,
> Sure glad we have global warming, imagine what today's Minnesota
> -54 Fahrenheit would have been.
> Drop a note in the suggestion box to have remote power outlets put
> in the parking lot, or you quit.
> I think I'll go to the Beach:
> http://cams04.surfline.com/jpeg/cap20/latest0.jpg
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> FrankW wrote:
>>
>> Gi'day Group
>> This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
>> Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
>> without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
>> heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
>> a couple of hours before I leave for work.
>> Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
>> I thought about those power packs you can get
>> at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
>> I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
>> for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
>> Thoughts or comments anyone?
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>> Frank

RoyJ

Standard 110 volt block heater is in the 500 watt range. Normal 12 volt
battery holds 500 to 800 watt hours so you could potentially run the
heater for an hour or so on the vehicle battery. I think those inverter
pacs are about 1/4 that. But it seem sorta stupid to take 12 volts,
convert it to 120 and then turn it into heat. Why not just get a 12 volt
heater? I hope the RV/Diesel Truck folks would have something that works.

But I've found that most modern fuel injected engines with proper
standard battery, plugs, fuel, 5w-30 oil, etc will start and run fine
down to about -30C (-20F) Just hit the key and it should go. Not true on
earlier carbed engines though. Go out and drive it at lunch time.

Once you get to the next stage like -30F (-35C) things start getting
dicey. Vehicles still start but you really need to baby them. -40F(
-40C) you are on your own, get thee to a heater plug in. My personal
record is -35F in a Thief River Falls MN (think Arctic Cat snomobiles in
the plant across the street) in late January. Good grief, it started
without too much complaint. Tranny wouldn't do anything for about 5
minutes but who's to complain.

Cheers.

FrankW wrote:
> Gi'day Group
> This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
> Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
> without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
> heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
> a couple of hours before I leave for work.
> Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
> I thought about those power packs you can get
> at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> Thoughts or comments anyone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Frank
>

RoyJ

Standard 110 volt block heater is in the 500 watt range. Normal 12 volt
battery holds 500 to 800 watt hours so you could potentially run the
heater for an hour or so on the vehicle battery. I think those inverter
pacs are about 1/4 that. But it seem sorta stupid to take 12 volts,
convert it to 120 and then turn it into heat. Why not just get a 12 volt
heater? I hope the RV/Diesel Truck folks would have something that works.

But I've found that most modern fuel injected engines with proper
standard battery, plugs, fuel, 5w-30 oil, etc will start and run fine
down to about -30C (-20F) Just hit the key and it should go. Not true on
earlier carbed engines though. Go out and drive it at lunch time.

Once you get to the next stage like -30F (-35C) things start getting
dicey. Vehicles still start but you really need to baby them. -40F(
-40C) you are on your own, get thee to a heater plug in. My personal
record is -35F in a Thief River Falls MN (think Arctic Cat snomobiles in
the plant across the street) in late January. Good grief, it started
without too much complaint. Tranny wouldn't do anything for about 5
minutes but who's to complain.

Cheers.

FrankW wrote:
> Gi'day Group
> This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
> Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
> without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
> heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
> a couple of hours before I leave for work.
> Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
> I thought about those power packs you can get
> at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> Thoughts or comments anyone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Frank
>

RoyJ

Standard 110 volt block heater is in the 500 watt range. Normal 12 volt
battery holds 500 to 800 watt hours so you could potentially run the
heater for an hour or so on the vehicle battery. I think those inverter
pacs are about 1/4 that. But it seem sorta stupid to take 12 volts,
convert it to 120 and then turn it into heat. Why not just get a 12 volt
heater? I hope the RV/Diesel Truck folks would have something that works.

But I've found that most modern fuel injected engines with proper
standard battery, plugs, fuel, 5w-30 oil, etc will start and run fine
down to about -30C (-20F) Just hit the key and it should go. Not true on
earlier carbed engines though. Go out and drive it at lunch time.

Once you get to the next stage like -30F (-35C) things start getting
dicey. Vehicles still start but you really need to baby them. -40F(
-40C) you are on your own, get thee to a heater plug in. My personal
record is -35F in a Thief River Falls MN (think Arctic Cat snomobiles in
the plant across the street) in late January. Good grief, it started
without too much complaint. Tranny wouldn't do anything for about 5
minutes but who's to complain.

Cheers.

FrankW wrote:
> Gi'day Group
> This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
> Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
> without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
> heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
> a couple of hours before I leave for work.
> Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
> I thought about those power packs you can get
> at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> Thoughts or comments anyone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Frank
>

bowgus

Do what the rest of us do ... go out at lunch, start it up, and run it for a
coupla minutes.


"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:jsednSRyBvUEoHDcRVn-qQ@magma.ca...
> Gi'day Group
> This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
> Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
> without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
> heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
> a couple of hours before I leave for work.
> Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
> I thought about those power packs you can get
> at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> Thoughts or comments anyone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Frank
>

bowgus

Do what the rest of us do ... go out at lunch, start it up, and run it for a
coupla minutes.


"FrankW" <fworm@mxznorpak.ca> wrote in message
news:jsednSRyBvUEoHDcRVn-qQ@magma.ca...
> Gi'day Group
> This morning it was -30 celcuis at my place.
> Luckily I have my TJ plugged in and it starts
> without a whimper. Normally I'll plug in the block
> heater when it's -10C or below. It's on a timer and comes on
> a couple of hours before I leave for work.
> Now at work there's no outlet to plug into.
> I thought about those power packs you can get
> at crappy tire with a built in AC inverter (300W at 110VAC).
> I wonder if it can power a timer and the block heater
> for a couple hours before I leave work with one of those.
> Thoughts or comments anyone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Frank
>