Freaking Un-believeable #@$%$#%&&*!!! BS
09-03-2003, 06:40 AM
#11
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Re: Freaking Un-believeable #@$%$#%&&*!!! BS
My Chiltons and Haynes had the PCV valve and the other valve in the valve
cover reversed...
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bj3h7i$el41n$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is
no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by
trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have
to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
cover reversed...
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bj3h7i$el41n$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is
no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by
trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have
to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
09-03-2003, 11:18 AM
#12
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Re: Freaking Un-believeable #@$%$#%&&*!!! BS
There is (was?) a sticker on the fan shroud as I recall.
======================
William Oliveri wrote:
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
======================
William Oliveri wrote:
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
09-03-2003, 11:18 AM
#13
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Re: Freaking Un-believeable #@$%$#%&&*!!! BS
There is (was?) a sticker on the fan shroud as I recall.
======================
William Oliveri wrote:
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
======================
William Oliveri wrote:
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
09-03-2003, 02:38 PM
#14
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Re: Freaking Un-believeable #@$%$#%&&*!!! BS
Have you considered the possibility that you ought not have a serpentine
belt? This would explain the absense of a description of the proper route.
Having said that, if it is an idler pulley, the back (outside) of the belt
goes over it, if it is an accessory, the inside of the belt goes over it. An
even better rule of thumb is that if the pulley is testurized somehow, the
inside of the belt should be there, if the pulley is smooth, the outside of
the belt belongs there.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bj3h7i$el41n$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is
no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by
trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have
to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
belt? This would explain the absense of a description of the proper route.
Having said that, if it is an idler pulley, the back (outside) of the belt
goes over it, if it is an accessory, the inside of the belt goes over it. An
even better rule of thumb is that if the pulley is testurized somehow, the
inside of the belt should be there, if the pulley is smooth, the outside of
the belt belongs there.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bj3h7i$el41n$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is
no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by
trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have
to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
09-03-2003, 02:38 PM
#15
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Re: Freaking Un-believeable #@$%$#%&&*!!! BS
Have you considered the possibility that you ought not have a serpentine
belt? This would explain the absense of a description of the proper route.
Having said that, if it is an idler pulley, the back (outside) of the belt
goes over it, if it is an accessory, the inside of the belt goes over it. An
even better rule of thumb is that if the pulley is testurized somehow, the
inside of the belt should be there, if the pulley is smooth, the outside of
the belt belongs there.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bj3h7i$el41n$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is
no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by
trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have
to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
belt? This would explain the absense of a description of the proper route.
Having said that, if it is an idler pulley, the back (outside) of the belt
goes over it, if it is an accessory, the inside of the belt goes over it. An
even better rule of thumb is that if the pulley is testurized somehow, the
inside of the belt should be there, if the pulley is smooth, the outside of
the belt belongs there.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bj3h7i$el41n$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is
no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by
trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have
to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
09-03-2003, 04:14 PM
#16
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Re: Freaking Un-believeable #@$%$#%&&*!!! BS
I had the same problem, I was going to take a picture then I figured it has
to be in the Haynes or on a sticker under the hood. Well it wasn't! I
figured it out eventually.
After I finished, I wondered if the sticker was on the radiator that I
replaced two months before I changed the belt.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bj3h7i$el41n$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is
no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by
trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have
to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
to be in the Haynes or on a sticker under the hood. Well it wasn't! I
figured it out eventually.
After I finished, I wondered if the sticker was on the radiator that I
replaced two months before I changed the belt.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bj3h7i$el41n$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is
no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by
trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have
to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
09-03-2003, 04:14 PM
#17
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Re: Freaking Un-believeable #@$%$#%&&*!!! BS
I had the same problem, I was going to take a picture then I figured it has
to be in the Haynes or on a sticker under the hood. Well it wasn't! I
figured it out eventually.
After I finished, I wondered if the sticker was on the radiator that I
replaced two months before I changed the belt.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bj3h7i$el41n$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is
no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by
trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have
to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
to be in the Haynes or on a sticker under the hood. Well it wasn't! I
figured it out eventually.
After I finished, I wondered if the sticker was on the radiator that I
replaced two months before I changed the belt.
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:bj3h7i$el41n$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is
no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by
trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have
to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>
>
>
09-04-2003, 07:43 PM
#18
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Re: Freaking Un-believeable #@$%$#%&&*!!! BS
it's in the cooling system section of the fsm
William Oliveri wrote:
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
William Oliveri wrote:
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
09-04-2003, 07:43 PM
#19
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Re: Freaking Un-believeable #@$%$#%&&*!!! BS
it's in the cooling system section of the fsm
William Oliveri wrote:
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
William Oliveri wrote:
> Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
> Begin Vent
> I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
> freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
> I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is no
> freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
> What is wrong with these idiot writers? Not everyone is a mechanic by trade
> and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have to
> waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
> #$%^%#$%^*&*
>
> Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> End Vent
>
> Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
> 4.2 w/o AC?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
09-05-2003, 02:15 AM
#20
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Re: Freaking Un-believeable #@$%$#%&&*!!! BS
In message <bj3h7i$el41n$1@ID-193866.news.uni-berlin.de>, "William Oliveri"
wrote:
>Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
>Begin Vent
>I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
>freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
>I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is no
>freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
>What is wrong with these idiot writers?
Maybe it's the idiot reader.
> Not everyone is a mechanic by trade
>and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have to
>waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
>#$%^%#$%^*&*
>
>Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>End Vent
>
>Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
>4.2 w/o AC?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Bill
>
>
wrote:
>Disclaimer, Big Vent Coming:
>
>Begin Vent
>I can't freaking believe I have a FSM, a Chiltons, a Haynes and not a
>freakin one of them shows the serpentine belt route.
>
>I can't believe I waste so much time on this stupid stuff where there is no
>freakin reference to this basic knowledge.
>
>What is wrong with these idiot writers?
Maybe it's the idiot reader.
> Not everyone is a mechanic by trade
>and the reason I buy these manuals is to have a reference so I don't have to
>waste my time. But Nooooooooooo.
>
>#$%^%#$%^*&*
>
>Agggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>End Vent
>
>Now, does anyone have a reference to the serpentine drive belt route on a
>4.2 w/o AC?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Bill
>
>
