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Re: frame question.
Their axles at least went wide track in '82:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/axle/amc20.html God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Lee Ayrton wrote: > > I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way > from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the model > in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar > mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted to > the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were eventually > tied to the frame or not. > > `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7. > The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to be > wider and uses different springs. |
Re: frame question.
If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real change to
the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track axles the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of things. "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com... > > I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way > from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the model > in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar > mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted to > the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were eventually > tied to the frame or not. > > `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7. > The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to be > wider and uses different springs. > > > On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote: > > > It seems no one knows???? > > > > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make them > > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?) > > > > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > WKJ wrote: > >> > >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large boneyard > >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a frame for > >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question, what year > >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a wagoneer and > >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can (sorry > >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads around > >> here with the tight, lifted suspension. > >> > >> Chip > >> > >> (this must be the right place for this one) > >> > >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- > >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > >> ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- > > > > -- > Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not > by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a real > authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside. |
Re: frame question.
If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real change to
the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track axles the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of things. "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com... > > I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way > from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the model > in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar > mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted to > the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were eventually > tied to the frame or not. > > `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7. > The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to be > wider and uses different springs. > > > On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote: > > > It seems no one knows???? > > > > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make them > > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?) > > > > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > WKJ wrote: > >> > >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large boneyard > >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a frame for > >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question, what year > >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a wagoneer and > >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can (sorry > >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads around > >> here with the tight, lifted suspension. > >> > >> Chip > >> > >> (this must be the right place for this one) > >> > >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- > >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > >> ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- > > > > -- > Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not > by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a real > authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside. |
Re: frame question.
If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real change to
the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track axles the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of things. "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com... > > I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way > from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the model > in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar > mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted to > the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were eventually > tied to the frame or not. > > `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7. > The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to be > wider and uses different springs. > > > On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote: > > > It seems no one knows???? > > > > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make them > > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?) > > > > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure. > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > > > WKJ wrote: > >> > >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large boneyard > >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a frame for > >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question, what year > >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a wagoneer and > >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can (sorry > >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads around > >> here with the tight, lifted suspension. > >> > >> Chip > >> > >> (this must be the right place for this one) > >> > >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- > >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups > >> ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- > > > > -- > Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not > by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a real > authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside. |
Re: frame question.
Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength?
Jerry -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. . > If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real change > to > the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track axles > the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of things. > > > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message > news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com... >> >> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way >> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the model >> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar >> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted to >> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were eventually >> tied to the frame or not. >> >> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7. >> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to >> be >> wider and uses different springs. >> >> >> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote: >> >> > It seems no one knows???? >> > >> > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make them >> > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?) >> > >> > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > >> > WKJ wrote: >> >> >> >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large > boneyard >> >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a > frame for >> >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question, what > year >> >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a wagoneer > and >> >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can > (sorry >> >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads > around >> >> here with the tight, lifted suspension. >> >> >> >> Chip >> >> >> >> (this must be the right place for this one) >> >> >> >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet > News==---- >> >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >>100,000 Newsgroups >> >> ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- >> > >> >> -- >> Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not >> by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a >> real >> authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside. > > |
Re: frame question.
Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength?
Jerry -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. . > If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real change > to > the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track axles > the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of things. > > > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message > news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com... >> >> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way >> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the model >> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar >> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted to >> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were eventually >> tied to the frame or not. >> >> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7. >> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to >> be >> wider and uses different springs. >> >> >> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote: >> >> > It seems no one knows???? >> > >> > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make them >> > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?) >> > >> > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > >> > WKJ wrote: >> >> >> >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large > boneyard >> >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a > frame for >> >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question, what > year >> >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a wagoneer > and >> >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can > (sorry >> >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads > around >> >> here with the tight, lifted suspension. >> >> >> >> Chip >> >> >> >> (this must be the right place for this one) >> >> >> >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet > News==---- >> >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >>100,000 Newsgroups >> >> ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- >> > >> >> -- >> Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not >> by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a >> real >> authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside. > > |
Re: frame question.
Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength?
Jerry -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. . > If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real change > to > the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track axles > the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of things. > > > "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message > news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com... >> >> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way >> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the model >> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar >> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted to >> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were eventually >> tied to the frame or not. >> >> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7. >> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported to >> be >> wider and uses different springs. >> >> >> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote: >> >> > It seems no one knows???? >> > >> > I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make them >> > wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?) >> > >> > I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure. >> > >> > Mike >> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> > >> > WKJ wrote: >> >> >> >> My '76 CJ-7 is going to get a different frame. There is a large > boneyard >> >> nearby that I am going to visit tomorrow morning. I want to buy a > frame for >> >> my '76 if they have anything that can be salvaged. My question, what > year >> >> frame will work with my current setup. It has the 360 from a wagoneer > and >> >> the quadratrac. I want to get one with the springs intact so I can > (sorry >> >> guys) remove the lift. My privates cannot handle the bumpy roads > around >> >> here with the tight, lifted suspension. >> >> >> >> Chip >> >> >> >> (this must be the right place for this one) >> >> >> >> ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet > News==---- >> >> http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >>100,000 Newsgroups >> >> ---= East/West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- >> > >> >> -- >> Some conditions apply. YMMV. This message was packed by weight, not >> by volume. TWIAVBP, local variation may occur. Dramatization, not a >> real >> authority. Do not induce vomiting. No user-serviceable words inside. > > |
Re: frame question.
The boxed frame was part of the 1976 design change in the CJ-5, prior to that it was an open "C" channel design (Hi, Bill). The CJ-7 appeared in 1976 and always had a boxed frame. The URL below also notes the appearance of "wide track" axles in 1982 and modification to the shock mounts. <URL:http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/cj-7.htm> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Jerry Bransford wrote: > > Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength? > > Jerry [...] > "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message > news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. . >> If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real change >> to >> the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track axles >> the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of things. >> >> >> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message >> news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com... >>> >>> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way >>> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the model >>> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar >>> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted to >>> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were eventually >>> tied to the frame or not. >>> >>> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7. >>> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported >>> to be wider and uses different springs. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote: >>> >>>> It seems no one knows???? >>>> >>>> I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make them >>>> wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?) >>>> >>>> I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure. [snip] |
Re: frame question.
The boxed frame was part of the 1976 design change in the CJ-5, prior to that it was an open "C" channel design (Hi, Bill). The CJ-7 appeared in 1976 and always had a boxed frame. The URL below also notes the appearance of "wide track" axles in 1982 and modification to the shock mounts. <URL:http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/cj-7.htm> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Jerry Bransford wrote: > > Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength? > > Jerry [...] > "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message > news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. . >> If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real change >> to >> the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track axles >> the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of things. >> >> >> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message >> news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com... >>> >>> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way >>> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the model >>> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar >>> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted to >>> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were eventually >>> tied to the frame or not. >>> >>> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7. >>> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported >>> to be wider and uses different springs. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote: >>> >>>> It seems no one knows???? >>>> >>>> I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make them >>>> wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?) >>>> >>>> I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure. [snip] |
Re: frame question.
The boxed frame was part of the 1976 design change in the CJ-5, prior to that it was an open "C" channel design (Hi, Bill). The CJ-7 appeared in 1976 and always had a boxed frame. The URL below also notes the appearance of "wide track" axles in 1982 and modification to the shock mounts. <URL:http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/cj-7.htm> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Jerry Bransford wrote: > > Didn't the CJ's frame switch to a boxed design for more strength? > > Jerry [...] > "Tom Greening" <tgreen@yohmama.com> wrote in message > news:RDCcd.321790$787.111714@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. . >> If memory serves, during the years in question about the only real change >> to >> the frame was the front shock mounts. When they went to wide track axles >> the front mounts changed from short to "long" on the frame end of things. >> >> >> "Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message >> news:Pine.NEB.4.61.0410171208150.18672@panix1.pani x.com... >>> >>> I'm quite sure that the CJ-7 frame didn't change in any meaningful way >>> from the start of the production run in 1976 through the end of the model >>> in 1986 -- the only difference that comes to mind might be in roll bar >>> mounting methods. Through the 70s they were an "A" frame thing bolted to >>> the tops of the rear wheelhouses and I don't know if they were eventually >>> tied to the frame or not. >>> >>> `76 was a change year for the CJ-5 and saw the introduction of the -7. >>> The YJ frame is apparently not a bolt-up replacement, it is reported >>> to be wider and uses different springs. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 17 Oct 2004, Mike Romain wrote: >>> >>>> It seems no one knows???? >>>> >>>> I only know the frames have changed, twice I think. Once to make them >>>> wider and once to make them longer. (or maybe both at once?) >>>> >>>> I 'think' 78 was one of the year changes, but I am not sure. [snip] |
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