Fluid Advice - 98 GC Diffs
10-20-2005, 04:36 PM
#11
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Re: Fluid Advice - 98 GC Diffs
It will make them chatter and grab on turns. I don't know about wearing
out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:nKS5f.133418$G8.32506@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I understand that not using any wears out the clutch packs quickly.
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:4Kydnd4TGfk5CMreRVn-sQ@storm.ca...
> > The 5.9's all have the same aluminum Dana 44 with a limited slip, and a
> > pretty tight one too, judging by what my wife's 5.9 does to our curved
> > gravel driveway every time she drives on it. It makes more of a mess
that
> my
> > detroit does, spitting gravel and digging trenches, even after 140000km
of
> > use.
> >
> > The additive is referred to as "friction modifier", and some will say
that
> > any gear lube marked as suitable for limited slips has enough of this
> > modifier in it. Since a little bottle of the additive is pretty cheap at
> the
> > dealer and lasts for several diff lube changes, I've always added it
> anyway
> > so I don't know what the effects of not using any might be.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Bob Snyder" <rcsnyder3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:OwB5f.3415$5i.2905@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid
change.
> > >
> > > This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> > > differentials.
> > >
> > > The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited
slip.
> > How
> > > do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
> > >
> > > And what additive aer they talking about?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:nKS5f.133418$G8.32506@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I understand that not using any wears out the clutch packs quickly.
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:4Kydnd4TGfk5CMreRVn-sQ@storm.ca...
> > The 5.9's all have the same aluminum Dana 44 with a limited slip, and a
> > pretty tight one too, judging by what my wife's 5.9 does to our curved
> > gravel driveway every time she drives on it. It makes more of a mess
that
> my
> > detroit does, spitting gravel and digging trenches, even after 140000km
of
> > use.
> >
> > The additive is referred to as "friction modifier", and some will say
that
> > any gear lube marked as suitable for limited slips has enough of this
> > modifier in it. Since a little bottle of the additive is pretty cheap at
> the
> > dealer and lasts for several diff lube changes, I've always added it
> anyway
> > so I don't know what the effects of not using any might be.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Bob Snyder" <rcsnyder3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:OwB5f.3415$5i.2905@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid
change.
> > >
> > > This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> > > differentials.
> > >
> > > The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited
slip.
> > How
> > > do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
> > >
> > > And what additive aer they talking about?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
10-20-2005, 04:36 PM
#12
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Re: Fluid Advice - 98 GC Diffs
It will make them chatter and grab on turns. I don't know about wearing
out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:nKS5f.133418$G8.32506@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I understand that not using any wears out the clutch packs quickly.
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:4Kydnd4TGfk5CMreRVn-sQ@storm.ca...
> > The 5.9's all have the same aluminum Dana 44 with a limited slip, and a
> > pretty tight one too, judging by what my wife's 5.9 does to our curved
> > gravel driveway every time she drives on it. It makes more of a mess
that
> my
> > detroit does, spitting gravel and digging trenches, even after 140000km
of
> > use.
> >
> > The additive is referred to as "friction modifier", and some will say
that
> > any gear lube marked as suitable for limited slips has enough of this
> > modifier in it. Since a little bottle of the additive is pretty cheap at
> the
> > dealer and lasts for several diff lube changes, I've always added it
> anyway
> > so I don't know what the effects of not using any might be.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Bob Snyder" <rcsnyder3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:OwB5f.3415$5i.2905@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid
change.
> > >
> > > This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> > > differentials.
> > >
> > > The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited
slip.
> > How
> > > do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
> > >
> > > And what additive aer they talking about?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:nKS5f.133418$G8.32506@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I understand that not using any wears out the clutch packs quickly.
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:4Kydnd4TGfk5CMreRVn-sQ@storm.ca...
> > The 5.9's all have the same aluminum Dana 44 with a limited slip, and a
> > pretty tight one too, judging by what my wife's 5.9 does to our curved
> > gravel driveway every time she drives on it. It makes more of a mess
that
> my
> > detroit does, spitting gravel and digging trenches, even after 140000km
of
> > use.
> >
> > The additive is referred to as "friction modifier", and some will say
that
> > any gear lube marked as suitable for limited slips has enough of this
> > modifier in it. Since a little bottle of the additive is pretty cheap at
> the
> > dealer and lasts for several diff lube changes, I've always added it
> anyway
> > so I don't know what the effects of not using any might be.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Bob Snyder" <rcsnyder3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:OwB5f.3415$5i.2905@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid
change.
> > >
> > > This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> > > differentials.
> > >
> > > The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited
slip.
> > How
> > > do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
> > >
> > > And what additive aer they talking about?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
10-20-2005, 04:36 PM
#13
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Re: Fluid Advice - 98 GC Diffs
It will make them chatter and grab on turns. I don't know about wearing
out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:nKS5f.133418$G8.32506@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I understand that not using any wears out the clutch packs quickly.
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:4Kydnd4TGfk5CMreRVn-sQ@storm.ca...
> > The 5.9's all have the same aluminum Dana 44 with a limited slip, and a
> > pretty tight one too, judging by what my wife's 5.9 does to our curved
> > gravel driveway every time she drives on it. It makes more of a mess
that
> my
> > detroit does, spitting gravel and digging trenches, even after 140000km
of
> > use.
> >
> > The additive is referred to as "friction modifier", and some will say
that
> > any gear lube marked as suitable for limited slips has enough of this
> > modifier in it. Since a little bottle of the additive is pretty cheap at
> the
> > dealer and lasts for several diff lube changes, I've always added it
> anyway
> > so I don't know what the effects of not using any might be.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Bob Snyder" <rcsnyder3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:OwB5f.3415$5i.2905@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid
change.
> > >
> > > This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> > > differentials.
> > >
> > > The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited
slip.
> > How
> > > do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
> > >
> > > And what additive aer they talking about?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
Earle
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:nKS5f.133418$G8.32506@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> I understand that not using any wears out the clutch packs quickly.
>
> --
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Peter Pontbriand" <TRIMsprocketATstormDOTcaTRIM> wrote in message
> news:4Kydnd4TGfk5CMreRVn-sQ@storm.ca...
> > The 5.9's all have the same aluminum Dana 44 with a limited slip, and a
> > pretty tight one too, judging by what my wife's 5.9 does to our curved
> > gravel driveway every time she drives on it. It makes more of a mess
that
> my
> > detroit does, spitting gravel and digging trenches, even after 140000km
of
> > use.
> >
> > The additive is referred to as "friction modifier", and some will say
that
> > any gear lube marked as suitable for limited slips has enough of this
> > modifier in it. Since a little bottle of the additive is pretty cheap at
> the
> > dealer and lasts for several diff lube changes, I've always added it
> anyway
> > so I don't know what the effects of not using any might be.
> >
> > /Peter
> >
> > "Bob Snyder" <rcsnyder3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:OwB5f.3415$5i.2905@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > > I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid
change.
> > >
> > > This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> > > differentials.
> > >
> > > The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited
slip.
> > How
> > > do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
> > >
> > > And what additive aer they talking about?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>
10-20-2005, 05:05 PM
#14
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Re: Fluid Advice - 98 GC Diffs
The chatter releases which such a bang that it will actually break
the spiders, as happen to me in my young stupid days with a new '62 Ford
factory experimental. Before I bought several bottles of:
http://www.----------.com/frictionModifer.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> It will make them chatter and grab on turns. I don't know about wearing
> out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
> before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
> some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
> grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
> replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
>
> Earle
the spiders, as happen to me in my young stupid days with a new '62 Ford
factory experimental. Before I bought several bottles of:
http://www.----------.com/frictionModifer.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> It will make them chatter and grab on turns. I don't know about wearing
> out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
> before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
> some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
> grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
> replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
>
> Earle
10-20-2005, 05:05 PM
#15
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Re: Fluid Advice - 98 GC Diffs
The chatter releases which such a bang that it will actually break
the spiders, as happen to me in my young stupid days with a new '62 Ford
factory experimental. Before I bought several bottles of:
http://www.----------.com/frictionModifer.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> It will make them chatter and grab on turns. I don't know about wearing
> out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
> before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
> some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
> grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
> replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
>
> Earle
the spiders, as happen to me in my young stupid days with a new '62 Ford
factory experimental. Before I bought several bottles of:
http://www.----------.com/frictionModifer.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> It will make them chatter and grab on turns. I don't know about wearing
> out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
> before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
> some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
> grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
> replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
>
> Earle
10-20-2005, 05:05 PM
#16
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Re: Fluid Advice - 98 GC Diffs
The chatter releases which such a bang that it will actually break
the spiders, as happen to me in my young stupid days with a new '62 Ford
factory experimental. Before I bought several bottles of:
http://www.----------.com/frictionModifer.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> It will make them chatter and grab on turns. I don't know about wearing
> out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
> before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
> some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
> grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
> replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
>
> Earle
the spiders, as happen to me in my young stupid days with a new '62 Ford
factory experimental. Before I bought several bottles of:
http://www.----------.com/frictionModifer.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> It will make them chatter and grab on turns. I don't know about wearing
> out. Most (sane) people can't stand the chatter and will get it fixed
> before it does any damage. I installed an Auburn limited slip once, and put
> some aftermarket "limited slip differential gear lubricant" in it. It
> grabbed like crazy on the corners. That is when I decided that there is no
> replacement for the OEM "friction modifier", whatever it has in it.
>
> Earle
10-20-2005, 05:12 PM
#17
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Re: Fluid Advice - 98 GC Diffs
Hi Bob,
You may not have the trac-loc, check to see if you have the tag
bolted to the housing. Or look under you front seat for the build
receipt that will list your options. If missing you may request a build
order via Customer Assistance e-mail at:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob Snyder wrote:
>
> I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid change.
>
> This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> differentials.
>
> The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited slip. How
> do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
>
> And what additive aer they talking about?
>
> Thanks in advance.
You may not have the trac-loc, check to see if you have the tag
bolted to the housing. Or look under you front seat for the build
receipt that will list your options. If missing you may request a build
order via Customer Assistance e-mail at:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob Snyder wrote:
>
> I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid change.
>
> This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> differentials.
>
> The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited slip. How
> do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
>
> And what additive aer they talking about?
>
> Thanks in advance.
10-20-2005, 05:12 PM
#18
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Re: Fluid Advice - 98 GC Diffs
Hi Bob,
You may not have the trac-loc, check to see if you have the tag
bolted to the housing. Or look under you front seat for the build
receipt that will list your options. If missing you may request a build
order via Customer Assistance e-mail at:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob Snyder wrote:
>
> I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid change.
>
> This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> differentials.
>
> The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited slip. How
> do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
>
> And what additive aer they talking about?
>
> Thanks in advance.
You may not have the trac-loc, check to see if you have the tag
bolted to the housing. Or look under you front seat for the build
receipt that will list your options. If missing you may request a build
order via Customer Assistance e-mail at:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob Snyder wrote:
>
> I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid change.
>
> This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> differentials.
>
> The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited slip. How
> do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
>
> And what additive aer they talking about?
>
> Thanks in advance.
10-20-2005, 05:12 PM
#19
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Re: Fluid Advice - 98 GC Diffs
Hi Bob,
You may not have the trac-loc, check to see if you have the tag
bolted to the housing. Or look under you front seat for the build
receipt that will list your options. If missing you may request a build
order via Customer Assistance e-mail at:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob Snyder wrote:
>
> I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid change.
>
> This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> differentials.
>
> The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited slip. How
> do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
>
> And what additive aer they talking about?
>
> Thanks in advance.
You may not have the trac-loc, check to see if you have the tag
bolted to the housing. Or look under you front seat for the build
receipt that will list your options. If missing you may request a build
order via Customer Assistance e-mail at:
http://www.jeep.com/universal/J/inde...r=wccs&prefix=
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Bob Snyder wrote:
>
> I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid change.
>
> This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> differentials.
>
> The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited slip. How
> do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
>
> And what additive aer they talking about?
>
> Thanks in advance.
10-21-2005, 09:48 PM
#20
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Re: Fluid Advice - 98 GC Diffs
Thanks for the help.
That it is a limited slip does explain a lot about the bind I get in tight
corners.
Shou;d I assume the rear is also limited slip?
Thanks again.
"Bob Snyder" <rcsnyder3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OwB5f.3415$5i.2905@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid change.
>
> This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> differentials.
>
> The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited slip.
> How do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
>
> And what additive aer they talking about?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
That it is a limited slip does explain a lot about the bind I get in tight
corners.
Shou;d I assume the rear is also limited slip?
Thanks again.
"Bob Snyder" <rcsnyder3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OwB5f.3415$5i.2905@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>I have a '98 GC 5.9 Ltd and it's about time for a complete fluid change.
>
> This is new toe me, so I have a question about what to put in the
> differentials.
>
> The owner's manual it refers to an additive if I have the limited slip.
> How do I know what slip I have or were all the 5.9s the same?
>
> And what additive aer they talking about?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
