Floor wetness problem
 

I've got a different question. I have a 2002 TJ Sport, and when we had the
monsoon last week here in Indiana, the drivers floorboard, and behind
passenger seat were wet under the carpets. I had driven through a lot of
rain the day before, and didn't know if water could get up in there. I
checked the drain plugs, and they were intact. Any ideas would be greatly
appreciated.
WP

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

door seals ..

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"cubsfan96" <horsedocNOSPAM@tds.net> wrote in message
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: I've got a different question. I have a 2002 TJ Sport, and when we had the
: monsoon last week here in Indiana, the drivers floorboard, and behind
: passenger seat were wet under the carpets. I had driven through a lot of
: rain the day before, and didn't know if water could get up in there. I
: checked the drain plugs, and they were intact. Any ideas would be greatly
: appreciated.
: WP
:
:
:

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

door seals ..

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"cubsfan96" <horsedocNOSPAM@tds.net> wrote in message
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: I've got a different question. I have a 2002 TJ Sport, and when we had the
: monsoon last week here in Indiana, the drivers floorboard, and behind
: passenger seat were wet under the carpets. I had driven through a lot of
: rain the day before, and didn't know if water could get up in there. I
: checked the drain plugs, and they were intact. Any ideas would be greatly
: appreciated.
: WP
:
:
:

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Hadn't thought about those...............

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Hadn't thought about those...............

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

may be coming up from where the roll bar meets the tub. this was where i had
a persistent leak. if you have half doors make sure when you place the
uppers back on, you hold and position the weather strip tail near the door
hinge away from the inside. this will drain water to the outside instead of
the inside. i also have a '02 tj.

most dealers use an outside water sealer company to fix warranty leaks.
just keep a watchful eye while they repair. the company that finally fixed
mine stated they had many leaks in tj's around the roll bar. if you want to
find and fix the leaks yourself, lift up the carpets and spray a moisture
detector around likely sites. most body shops should have it.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:V6p7b.5458$Z06.51157134@news-text.cableinet.net...
> door seals ..
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "cubsfan96" <horsedocNOSPAM@tds.net> wrote in message
> news:TJn7b.7764$cQ1.2189244@kent.svc.tds.net...
> : I've got a different question. I have a 2002 TJ Sport, and when we had
the
> : monsoon last week here in Indiana, the drivers floorboard, and behind
> : passenger seat were wet under the carpets. I had driven through a lot of
> : rain the day before, and didn't know if water could get up in there. I
> : checked the drain plugs, and they were intact. Any ideas would be
greatly
> : appreciated.
> : WP
> :
> :
> :
>
>


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Re: Floor wetness problem
 

may be coming up from where the roll bar meets the tub. this was where i had
a persistent leak. if you have half doors make sure when you place the
uppers back on, you hold and position the weather strip tail near the door
hinge away from the inside. this will drain water to the outside instead of
the inside. i also have a '02 tj.

most dealers use an outside water sealer company to fix warranty leaks.
just keep a watchful eye while they repair. the company that finally fixed
mine stated they had many leaks in tj's around the roll bar. if you want to
find and fix the leaks yourself, lift up the carpets and spray a moisture
detector around likely sites. most body shops should have it.
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:V6p7b.5458$Z06.51157134@news-text.cableinet.net...
> door seals ..
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
>
> "cubsfan96" <horsedocNOSPAM@tds.net> wrote in message
> news:TJn7b.7764$cQ1.2189244@kent.svc.tds.net...
> : I've got a different question. I have a 2002 TJ Sport, and when we had
the
> : monsoon last week here in Indiana, the drivers floorboard, and behind
> : passenger seat were wet under the carpets. I had driven through a lot of
> : rain the day before, and didn't know if water could get up in there. I
> : checked the drain plugs, and they were intact. Any ideas would be
greatly
> : appreciated.
> : WP
> :
> :
> :
>
>


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Re: Floor wetness problem
 

What do you use to seal the leaks, if you can find them? Thanks for your
input!
WP

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"Mark A. Stewart" <marbrenbran@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> may be coming up from where the roll bar meets the tub. this was where i
had
> a persistent leak. if you have half doors make sure when you place the
> uppers back on, you hold and position the weather strip tail near the door
> hinge away from the inside. this will drain water to the outside instead
of
> the inside. i also have a '02 tj.
>
> most dealers use an outside water sealer company to fix warranty leaks.
> just keep a watchful eye while they repair. the company that finally fixed
> mine stated they had many leaks in tj's around the roll bar. if you want
to
> find and fix the leaks yourself, lift up the carpets and spray a moisture
> detector around likely sites. most body shops should have it.
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:V6p7b.5458$Z06.51157134@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > door seals ..
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> >
> > "cubsfan96" <horsedocNOSPAM@tds.net> wrote in message
> > news:TJn7b.7764$cQ1.2189244@kent.svc.tds.net...
> > : I've got a different question. I have a 2002 TJ Sport, and when we had
> the
> > : monsoon last week here in Indiana, the drivers floorboard, and behind
> > : passenger seat were wet under the carpets. I had driven through a lot
of
> > : rain the day before, and didn't know if water could get up in there. I
> > : checked the drain plugs, and they were intact. Any ideas would be
> greatly
> > : appreciated.
> > : WP
> > :
> > :
> > :
> >
> >
>
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Re: Floor wetness problem
 

What do you use to seal the leaks, if you can find them? Thanks for your
input!
WP

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"Mark A. Stewart" <marbrenbran@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> may be coming up from where the roll bar meets the tub. this was where i
had
> a persistent leak. if you have half doors make sure when you place the
> uppers back on, you hold and position the weather strip tail near the door
> hinge away from the inside. this will drain water to the outside instead
of
> the inside. i also have a '02 tj.
>
> most dealers use an outside water sealer company to fix warranty leaks.
> just keep a watchful eye while they repair. the company that finally fixed
> mine stated they had many leaks in tj's around the roll bar. if you want
to
> find and fix the leaks yourself, lift up the carpets and spray a moisture
> detector around likely sites. most body shops should have it.
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:V6p7b.5458$Z06.51157134@news-text.cableinet.net...
> > door seals ..
> >
> > Dave Milne, Scotland
> > '99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
> >
> > "cubsfan96" <horsedocNOSPAM@tds.net> wrote in message
> > news:TJn7b.7764$cQ1.2189244@kent.svc.tds.net...
> > : I've got a different question. I have a 2002 TJ Sport, and when we had
> the
> > : monsoon last week here in Indiana, the drivers floorboard, and behind
> > : passenger seat were wet under the carpets. I had driven through a lot
of
> > : rain the day before, and didn't know if water could get up in there. I
> > : checked the drain plugs, and they were intact. Any ideas would be
> greatly
> > : appreciated.
> > : WP
> > :
> > :
> > :
> >
> >
>
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Re: Floor wetness problem
 

> door seals ..
>

Nope! This is a common problem on TJs with air conditioning. The A/C
moisture drain is on the firewall and it faces directly forward into
the wind. Not a problem at low speeds, but at highway speed for
extended periods the wind pressure pushes the water back along the
firewall and it runs into the passenger compartment.

The fix is easy. Locate the a/c drain and run a couple feet of
plastic tubing to it so it drains downward or toward the rear of the
vehicle rather than forward.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

> door seals ..
>

Nope! This is a common problem on TJs with air conditioning. The A/C
moisture drain is on the firewall and it faces directly forward into
the wind. Not a problem at low speeds, but at highway speed for
extended periods the wind pressure pushes the water back along the
firewall and it runs into the passenger compartment.

The fix is easy. Locate the a/c drain and run a couple feet of
plastic tubing to it so it drains downward or toward the rear of the
vehicle rather than forward.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

> door seals ..
>

Nope! This is a common problem on TJs with air conditioning. The A/C
moisture drain is on the firewall and it faces directly forward into
the wind. Not a problem at low speeds, but at highway speed for
extended periods the wind pressure pushes the water back along the
firewall and it runs into the passenger compartment.

The fix is easy. Locate the a/c drain and run a couple feet of
plastic tubing to it so it drains downward or toward the rear of the
vehicle rather than forward.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

> door seals ..
>

Nope! This is a common problem on TJs with air conditioning. The A/C
moisture drain is on the firewall and it faces directly forward into
the wind. Not a problem at low speeds, but at highway speed for
extended periods the wind pressure pushes the water back along the
firewall and it runs into the passenger compartment.

The fix is easy. Locate the a/c drain and run a couple feet of
plastic tubing to it so it drains downward or toward the rear of the
vehicle rather than forward.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Glad you could rule that out for me Joshua - I can feel it coming through
the seals, but now you have told me better I'll go and look at my absent
air con unit...

It can also come out the cowl drain if its blocked, and some have reported
that the windshield hinge seal can leak too.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309091332.17204074@posting.google.c om...
: > door seals ..
: >
:
: Nope! This is a common problem on TJs with air conditioning. The A/C
: moisture drain is on the firewall and it faces directly forward into
: the wind. Not a problem at low speeds, but at highway speed for
: extended periods the wind pressure pushes the water back along the
: firewall and it runs into the passenger compartment.
:
: The fix is easy. Locate the a/c drain and run a couple feet of
: plastic tubing to it so it drains downward or toward the rear of the
: vehicle rather than forward.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Glad you could rule that out for me Joshua - I can feel it coming through
the seals, but now you have told me better I'll go and look at my absent
air con unit...

It can also come out the cowl drain if its blocked, and some have reported
that the windshield hinge seal can leak too.

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309091332.17204074@posting.google.c om...
: > door seals ..
: >
:
: Nope! This is a common problem on TJs with air conditioning. The A/C
: moisture drain is on the firewall and it faces directly forward into
: the wind. Not a problem at low speeds, but at highway speed for
: extended periods the wind pressure pushes the water back along the
: firewall and it runs into the passenger compartment.
:
: The fix is easy. Locate the a/c drain and run a couple feet of
: plastic tubing to it so it drains downward or toward the rear of the
: vehicle rather than forward.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

The "roll bar" leak in the footwell behind the passenger seat is actually
from a body seam, it only runs out under the roll bar because that is the
only way for the water to escape. I know, I had this problem on my 2002. If
it sat in the rain...no prob, but it you drove down a wet road, the rear
floor would fill up with muddy water. The water comes from a seam in the
wheelwel area. DO NOT let whoever fixes it seal around the bottom of the
roll bar. If you do that, the water will pool inside the body and rust it
out after a while. Best way to tell where water is getting into your Jeep is
to pull all the carpet and the rear seat, pick a good rainy day, bring a
flashlight, and get someone else to drive while you look for leaks. You
probably have more than one.

RB

"cubsfan96" <horsedocNOSPAM@tds.net> wrote in message
news:TJn7b.7764$cQ1.2189244@kent.svc.tds.net...
> I've got a different question. I have a 2002 TJ Sport, and when we had the
> monsoon last week here in Indiana, the drivers floorboard, and behind
> passenger seat were wet under the carpets. I had driven through a lot of
> rain the day before, and didn't know if water could get up in there. I
> checked the drain plugs, and they were intact. Any ideas would be greatly
> appreciated.
> WP
>
>
>

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

The "roll bar" leak in the footwell behind the passenger seat is actually
from a body seam, it only runs out under the roll bar because that is the
only way for the water to escape. I know, I had this problem on my 2002. If
it sat in the rain...no prob, but it you drove down a wet road, the rear
floor would fill up with muddy water. The water comes from a seam in the
wheelwel area. DO NOT let whoever fixes it seal around the bottom of the
roll bar. If you do that, the water will pool inside the body and rust it
out after a while. Best way to tell where water is getting into your Jeep is
to pull all the carpet and the rear seat, pick a good rainy day, bring a
flashlight, and get someone else to drive while you look for leaks. You
probably have more than one.

RB

"cubsfan96" <horsedocNOSPAM@tds.net> wrote in message
news:TJn7b.7764$cQ1.2189244@kent.svc.tds.net...
> I've got a different question. I have a 2002 TJ Sport, and when we had the
> monsoon last week here in Indiana, the drivers floorboard, and behind
> passenger seat were wet under the carpets. I had driven through a lot of
> rain the day before, and didn't know if water could get up in there. I
> checked the drain plugs, and they were intact. Any ideas would be greatly
> appreciated.
> WP
>
>
>

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Joshua Nelson wrote:

>>door seals ..
>>
>
>
> Nope! This is a common problem on TJs with air conditioning. The A/C
> moisture drain is on the firewall and it faces directly forward into
> the wind. Not a problem at low speeds, but at highway speed for
> extended periods the wind pressure pushes the water back along the
> firewall and it runs into the passenger compartment.
>
> The fix is easy. Locate the a/c drain and run a couple feet of
> plastic tubing to it so it drains downward or toward the rear of the
> vehicle rather than forward.

Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak into
the A/C unit.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Joshua Nelson wrote:

>>door seals ..
>>
>
>
> Nope! This is a common problem on TJs with air conditioning. The A/C
> moisture drain is on the firewall and it faces directly forward into
> the wind. Not a problem at low speeds, but at highway speed for
> extended periods the wind pressure pushes the water back along the
> firewall and it runs into the passenger compartment.
>
> The fix is easy. Locate the a/c drain and run a couple feet of
> plastic tubing to it so it drains downward or toward the rear of the
> vehicle rather than forward.

Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak into
the A/C unit.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

> Glad you could rule that out for me Joshua - I can feel it coming through
> the seals, but now you have told me better I'll go and look at my absent
> air con unit...
>

A/C was definitely the problem on my TJ and the solution I posted
fixed it.

Is it possible, do you think, that there could occasionally be an
instance when there is more than one cause for a similar kind of
problem? And maybe, just maybe, your solution might not always be the
right one in every situation? And, on even rarer occasions, someone
else might have a valid point to make? Scary thought, I know, but just
contemplate the possibilities.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

> Glad you could rule that out for me Joshua - I can feel it coming through
> the seals, but now you have told me better I'll go and look at my absent
> air con unit...
>

A/C was definitely the problem on my TJ and the solution I posted
fixed it.

Is it possible, do you think, that there could occasionally be an
instance when there is more than one cause for a similar kind of
problem? And maybe, just maybe, your solution might not always be the
right one in every situation? And, on even rarer occasions, someone
else might have a valid point to make? Scary thought, I know, but just
contemplate the possibilities.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

>
> Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak into
> the A/C unit.

No, but I do recommend some bodily enhancement via modern medicine.
From the spam I receive, it appears you can gain 3 inches in your
manly areas by taking a simple pill. This could bring you up to a
total of 4 inches and go a long way toward rectifying your inferiority
complex and resentment.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

>
> Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak into
> the A/C unit.

No, but I do recommend some bodily enhancement via modern medicine.
From the spam I receive, it appears you can gain 3 inches in your
manly areas by taking a simple pill. This could bring you up to a
total of 4 inches and go a long way toward rectifying your inferiority
complex and resentment.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Joshua, your comments regarding the size of other people's penises (sp?) are
entirely uncalled for. You need to get back to the subjects for which this
news group was chartered or you will quickly get kill-filed.

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309100812.29ec4951@posting.google.c om...
> >
> > Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak into
> > the A/C unit.
>
> No, but I do recommend some bodily enhancement via modern medicine.
> From the spam I receive, it appears you can gain 3 inches in your
> manly areas by taking a simple pill. This could bring you up to a
> total of 4 inches and go a long way toward rectifying your inferiority
> complex and resentment.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Joshua, your comments regarding the size of other people's penises (sp?) are
entirely uncalled for. You need to get back to the subjects for which this
news group was chartered or you will quickly get kill-filed.

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309100812.29ec4951@posting.google.c om...
> >
> > Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak into
> > the A/C unit.
>
> No, but I do recommend some bodily enhancement via modern medicine.
> From the spam I receive, it appears you can gain 3 inches in your
> manly areas by taking a simple pill. This could bring you up to a
> total of 4 inches and go a long way toward rectifying your inferiority
> complex and resentment.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Thanks for all the input. I'll try the A/C drain re-route as soon as I can.

WP

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Thanks for all the input. I'll try the A/C drain re-route as soon as I can.

WP

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

That's penii, and someone is suffering from winch envy...
__
Steve
..

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:a8ucnbGa97-k0sKiXTWJkA@comcast.com...
> Joshua, your comments regarding the size of other people's penises (sp?)
are
> entirely uncalled for. You need to get back to the subjects for which
this
> news group was chartered or you will quickly get kill-filed.
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309100812.29ec4951@posting.google.c om...
> > >
> > > Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak
into
> > > the A/C unit.
> >
> > No, but I do recommend some bodily enhancement via modern medicine.
> > From the spam I receive, it appears you can gain 3 inches in your
> > manly areas by taking a simple pill. This could bring you up to a
> > total of 4 inches and go a long way toward rectifying your inferiority
> > complex and resentment.
>
>

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

That's penii, and someone is suffering from winch envy...
__
Steve
..

"TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:a8ucnbGa97-k0sKiXTWJkA@comcast.com...
> Joshua, your comments regarding the size of other people's penises (sp?)
are
> entirely uncalled for. You need to get back to the subjects for which
this
> news group was chartered or you will quickly get kill-filed.
>
> "Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
> news:b102b6e4.0309100812.29ec4951@posting.google.c om...
> > >
> > > Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak
into
> > > the A/C unit.
> >
> > No, but I do recommend some bodily enhancement via modern medicine.
> > From the spam I receive, it appears you can gain 3 inches in your
> > manly areas by taking a simple pill. This could bring you up to a
> > total of 4 inches and go a long way toward rectifying your inferiority
> > complex and resentment.
>
>

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

> Joshua, your comments regarding the size of other people's penises (sp?) are
> entirely uncalled for. You need to get back to the subjects for which this
> news group was chartered or you will quickly get kill-filed.


My comments were strictly directed at Mr. Cal Wheeler, who for some
reason has felt the need to act the playground bully and
ridicule/insult me consistently every time I make any kind of
response.

I'm not sure what I did to earn his particular attention in this
regard but it is a bit much to ask me to sit by quietly while he makes
rude comments at every opportunity. I've finally decided to quit
ignoring his attacks and respond in kind. If you feel the need to
killfile me for this, I'm sorry for that, as your responses have been
very helpful in answering my questions.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

> Joshua, your comments regarding the size of other people's penises (sp?) are
> entirely uncalled for. You need to get back to the subjects for which this
> news group was chartered or you will quickly get kill-filed.


My comments were strictly directed at Mr. Cal Wheeler, who for some
reason has felt the need to act the playground bully and
ridicule/insult me consistently every time I make any kind of
response.

I'm not sure what I did to earn his particular attention in this
regard but it is a bit much to ask me to sit by quietly while he makes
rude comments at every opportunity. I've finally decided to quit
ignoring his attacks and respond in kind. If you feel the need to
killfile me for this, I'm sorry for that, as your responses have been
very helpful in answering my questions.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Joshua Nelson wrote:

>>Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak into
>>the A/C unit.
>
>
> No, but I do recommend some bodily enhancement via modern medicine.
> From the spam I receive, it appears you can gain 3 inches in your
> manly areas by taking a simple pill. This could bring you up to a
> total of 4 inches and go a long way toward rectifying your inferiority
> complex and resentment.

You sure are concerned with ----- length a lot. I won't hazard to guess
why. My winch is 9500 lb capacity. Yours is 4500. It's pretty clear who
has the inferioirity complex!

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Joshua Nelson wrote:

>>Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak into
>>the A/C unit.
>
>
> No, but I do recommend some bodily enhancement via modern medicine.
> From the spam I receive, it appears you can gain 3 inches in your
> manly areas by taking a simple pill. This could bring you up to a
> total of 4 inches and go a long way toward rectifying your inferiority
> complex and resentment.

You sure are concerned with ----- length a lot. I won't hazard to guess
why. My winch is 9500 lb capacity. Yours is 4500. It's pretty clear who
has the inferioirity complex!

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Steve Cowell wrote:

> That's penii, and someone is suffering from winch envy...\

LOL!

> __
> Steve
> .
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:a8ucnbGa97-k0sKiXTWJkA@comcast.com...
>
>>Joshua, your comments regarding the size of other people's penises (sp?)
>
> are
>
>>entirely uncalled for. You need to get back to the subjects for which
>
> this
>
>>news group was chartered or you will quickly get kill-filed.
>>
>>"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
>>news:b102b6e4.0309100812.29ec4951@posting.google .com...
>>
>>>>Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak
>
> into
>
>>>>the A/C unit.
>>>
>>>No, but I do recommend some bodily enhancement via modern medicine.
>>>From the spam I receive, it appears you can gain 3 inches in your
>>>manly areas by taking a simple pill. This could bring you up to a
>>>total of 4 inches and go a long way toward rectifying your inferiority
>>>complex and resentment.
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Steve Cowell wrote:

> That's penii, and someone is suffering from winch envy...\

LOL!

> __
> Steve
> .
>
> "TJim" <jim@ranlet.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:a8ucnbGa97-k0sKiXTWJkA@comcast.com...
>
>>Joshua, your comments regarding the size of other people's penises (sp?)
>
> are
>
>>entirely uncalled for. You need to get back to the subjects for which
>
> this
>
>>news group was chartered or you will quickly get kill-filed.
>>
>>"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
>>news:b102b6e4.0309100812.29ec4951@posting.google .com...
>>
>>>>Shoot, Josh, I thought you were going to recommend putting StopLeak
>
> into
>
>>>>the A/C unit.
>>>
>>>No, but I do recommend some bodily enhancement via modern medicine.
>>>From the spam I receive, it appears you can gain 3 inches in your
>>>manly areas by taking a simple pill. This could bring you up to a
>>>total of 4 inches and go a long way toward rectifying your inferiority
>>>complex and resentment.
>>
>>
>
>

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Joshua, you have just the point I was trying to make when you said "Nope" to
me posting an alternative :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309100753.6649049d@posting.google.c om...
: > Glad you could rule that out for me Joshua - I can feel it coming
through
: > the seals, but now you have told me better I'll go and look at my
absent
: > air con unit...
: >
:
: A/C was definitely the problem on my TJ and the solution I posted
: fixed it.
:
: Is it possible, do you think, that there could occasionally be an
: instance when there is more than one cause for a similar kind of
: problem? And maybe, just maybe, your solution might not always be the
: right one in every situation? And, on even rarer occasions, someone
: else might have a valid point to make? Scary thought, I know, but just
: contemplate the possibilities.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

Joshua, you have just the point I was trying to make when you said "Nope" to
me posting an alternative :-)

Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309100753.6649049d@posting.google.c om...
: > Glad you could rule that out for me Joshua - I can feel it coming
through
: > the seals, but now you have told me better I'll go and look at my
absent
: > air con unit...
: >
:
: A/C was definitely the problem on my TJ and the solution I posted
: fixed it.
:
: Is it possible, do you think, that there could occasionally be an
: instance when there is more than one cause for a similar kind of
: problem? And maybe, just maybe, your solution might not always be the
: right one in every situation? And, on even rarer occasions, someone
: else might have a valid point to make? Scary thought, I know, but just
: contemplate the possibilities.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

It's easy to ignore someone who feels the need to repeatedly attack people.
You don't even have to know he posted. That's what the kill file is for.
We've had quite a few trolls and abusers here and they all end up gone.
You start by ignoring them. If they persist, try polite reasoning. If that
doesn't work, kill file the a$$holes. ;-)
Shortly after they realize that they're in a forest and no one can hear
them, they go away or, at least, drop back to lurk mode.
As soon as you start trading insults, they have won and you have become no
better then they are.
JMHO

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309101342.72e6168@posting.google.co m...
> > Joshua, your comments regarding the size of other people's penises (sp?)
are
> > entirely uncalled for. You need to get back to the subjects for which
this
> > news group was chartered or you will quickly get kill-filed.
>
>
> My comments were strictly directed at Mr. Cal Wheeler, who for some
> reason has felt the need to act the playground bully and
> ridicule/insult me consistently every time I make any kind of
> response.
>
> I'm not sure what I did to earn his particular attention in this
> regard but it is a bit much to ask me to sit by quietly while he makes
> rude comments at every opportunity. I've finally decided to quit
> ignoring his attacks and respond in kind. If you feel the need to
> killfile me for this, I'm sorry for that, as your responses have been
> very helpful in answering my questions.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

It's easy to ignore someone who feels the need to repeatedly attack people.
You don't even have to know he posted. That's what the kill file is for.
We've had quite a few trolls and abusers here and they all end up gone.
You start by ignoring them. If they persist, try polite reasoning. If that
doesn't work, kill file the a$$holes. ;-)
Shortly after they realize that they're in a forest and no one can hear
them, they go away or, at least, drop back to lurk mode.
As soon as you start trading insults, they have won and you have become no
better then they are.
JMHO

"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0309101342.72e6168@posting.google.co m...
> > Joshua, your comments regarding the size of other people's penises (sp?)
are
> > entirely uncalled for. You need to get back to the subjects for which
this
> > news group was chartered or you will quickly get kill-filed.
>
>
> My comments were strictly directed at Mr. Cal Wheeler, who for some
> reason has felt the need to act the playground bully and
> ridicule/insult me consistently every time I make any kind of
> response.
>
> I'm not sure what I did to earn his particular attention in this
> regard but it is a bit much to ask me to sit by quietly while he makes
> rude comments at every opportunity. I've finally decided to quit
> ignoring his attacks and respond in kind. If you feel the need to
> killfile me for this, I'm sorry for that, as your responses have been
> very helpful in answering my questions.

Re: Floor wetness problem
 

> >
> > I'm not sure what I did to earn his particular attention in this
> > regard
>
> You acted like a complete buffoon, that's what.

And your momma wears combat boots.