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randallbrink@adelphia.net 12-07-2005 11:19 AM

Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
 
Earle:

I am fairly certain about the fuse--it is a 20 amp, as are most of the
fuses in that panel, and I believe it is marked "20".

I do not believe that the dash lights dim properly, I think they remain
on one constant brightness level. I will check this when I get the Jeep
into the shop this afternoon. This dash light thing is very weird to
me, and I am having trouble figuring that out.


randallbrink@adelphia.net 12-07-2005 11:25 AM

Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
 
I have a growing suspicion that you're right about the short, except
that the high beam headlights are the only accessory that blows the
fuse and the rest of the many components on that switch all work.

Also, and this may or may not be relevant, but it was the rear part of
the switch that fried, where the park, dash and dome light wires come
into the switch block.

If in light of this, you still believe that there is a short in the
main (12 ga.) power supply wire, then I will start investigating the
wire loom--a major undertaking, indeed!

Thanks again!

Randall Brink


randallbrink@adelphia.net 12-07-2005 11:25 AM

Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
 
I have a growing suspicion that you're right about the short, except
that the high beam headlights are the only accessory that blows the
fuse and the rest of the many components on that switch all work.

Also, and this may or may not be relevant, but it was the rear part of
the switch that fried, where the park, dash and dome light wires come
into the switch block.

If in light of this, you still believe that there is a short in the
main (12 ga.) power supply wire, then I will start investigating the
wire loom--a major undertaking, indeed!

Thanks again!

Randall Brink


randallbrink@adelphia.net 12-07-2005 11:25 AM

Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
 
I have a growing suspicion that you're right about the short, except
that the high beam headlights are the only accessory that blows the
fuse and the rest of the many components on that switch all work.

Also, and this may or may not be relevant, but it was the rear part of
the switch that fried, where the park, dash and dome light wires come
into the switch block.

If in light of this, you still believe that there is a short in the
main (12 ga.) power supply wire, then I will start investigating the
wire loom--a major undertaking, indeed!

Thanks again!

Randall Brink


randallbrink@adelphia.net 12-07-2005 11:36 AM

Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
 
Well, I am firmly in the column of "amateur" but as you pointed out, I
am gaining valuable experience through all of this, and the consolation
is, I am much less intmidated by any mechanical task on the Jeep now. I
believe that if you are going to own these wonderful old machines,
you've got to be willing to get right into whatever mechanical problem
presents itself.

Regarding the prospect of the switched wires, I am still willling to
believe in that possibility, despite having meticulously tagged, taped
off and marked, all wires prior to splicing the switch connector wires.


Bearing in mind that I did not remove the dash, and merely worked
through the instrument panel opening, and had to splice and solder in
that space, anything is possible.

Mentally, though, I'm having a hard time getting around the idea that
the only wires that could have been switched, i.e., the "dual wire"
connectors, are for the park lights and the headlighrs, which all work,
and the only single wire, other than the dome light wire, which is
black, is the single dash light wire, a stripped red wire. If that
striped red wire were swapped with the striped red wire in the
headlight connector, I would surmise that neither the headlights nor
the dash lights would work at all. Of course, I could be wrong.

Randall


randallbrink@adelphia.net 12-07-2005 11:36 AM

Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
 
Well, I am firmly in the column of "amateur" but as you pointed out, I
am gaining valuable experience through all of this, and the consolation
is, I am much less intmidated by any mechanical task on the Jeep now. I
believe that if you are going to own these wonderful old machines,
you've got to be willing to get right into whatever mechanical problem
presents itself.

Regarding the prospect of the switched wires, I am still willling to
believe in that possibility, despite having meticulously tagged, taped
off and marked, all wires prior to splicing the switch connector wires.


Bearing in mind that I did not remove the dash, and merely worked
through the instrument panel opening, and had to splice and solder in
that space, anything is possible.

Mentally, though, I'm having a hard time getting around the idea that
the only wires that could have been switched, i.e., the "dual wire"
connectors, are for the park lights and the headlighrs, which all work,
and the only single wire, other than the dome light wire, which is
black, is the single dash light wire, a stripped red wire. If that
striped red wire were swapped with the striped red wire in the
headlight connector, I would surmise that neither the headlights nor
the dash lights would work at all. Of course, I could be wrong.

Randall


randallbrink@adelphia.net 12-07-2005 11:36 AM

Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
 
Well, I am firmly in the column of "amateur" but as you pointed out, I
am gaining valuable experience through all of this, and the consolation
is, I am much less intmidated by any mechanical task on the Jeep now. I
believe that if you are going to own these wonderful old machines,
you've got to be willing to get right into whatever mechanical problem
presents itself.

Regarding the prospect of the switched wires, I am still willling to
believe in that possibility, despite having meticulously tagged, taped
off and marked, all wires prior to splicing the switch connector wires.


Bearing in mind that I did not remove the dash, and merely worked
through the instrument panel opening, and had to splice and solder in
that space, anything is possible.

Mentally, though, I'm having a hard time getting around the idea that
the only wires that could have been switched, i.e., the "dual wire"
connectors, are for the park lights and the headlighrs, which all work,
and the only single wire, other than the dome light wire, which is
black, is the single dash light wire, a stripped red wire. If that
striped red wire were swapped with the striped red wire in the
headlight connector, I would surmise that neither the headlights nor
the dash lights would work at all. Of course, I could be wrong.

Randall


Mike Romain 12-07-2005 11:41 AM

Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
 
I am getting really mixed up here....

I thought it was the low beams that blew the fuse?

What fuse is blowing?

Headlights are 'not' fused.

Ok, just for the heck of it I would have a look at the dimmer switch
too. I recently burned out my CJ7's headlight switch, the same red wire
melted the big plug all to ---- and it also melted my dimmer switch.

I left the damn thing alone because it was only 5 years old and wired a
rocker switch for my headlights. I now have super white headlights but
my interior lights don't work anymore....

My CJ7 has the same GM light wiring as your FSJ.

Mike

"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> I have a growing suspicion that you're right about the short, except
> that the high beam headlights are the only accessory that blows the
> fuse and the rest of the many components on that switch all work.
>
> Also, and this may or may not be relevant, but it was the rear part of
> the switch that fried, where the park, dash and dome light wires come
> into the switch block.
>
> If in light of this, you still believe that there is a short in the
> main (12 ga.) power supply wire, then I will start investigating the
> wire loom--a major undertaking, indeed!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Randall Brink


Mike Romain 12-07-2005 11:41 AM

Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
 
I am getting really mixed up here....

I thought it was the low beams that blew the fuse?

What fuse is blowing?

Headlights are 'not' fused.

Ok, just for the heck of it I would have a look at the dimmer switch
too. I recently burned out my CJ7's headlight switch, the same red wire
melted the big plug all to ---- and it also melted my dimmer switch.

I left the damn thing alone because it was only 5 years old and wired a
rocker switch for my headlights. I now have super white headlights but
my interior lights don't work anymore....

My CJ7 has the same GM light wiring as your FSJ.

Mike

"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> I have a growing suspicion that you're right about the short, except
> that the high beam headlights are the only accessory that blows the
> fuse and the rest of the many components on that switch all work.
>
> Also, and this may or may not be relevant, but it was the rear part of
> the switch that fried, where the park, dash and dome light wires come
> into the switch block.
>
> If in light of this, you still believe that there is a short in the
> main (12 ga.) power supply wire, then I will start investigating the
> wire loom--a major undertaking, indeed!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Randall Brink


Mike Romain 12-07-2005 11:41 AM

Re: Fire Damage Wiring Repair
 
I am getting really mixed up here....

I thought it was the low beams that blew the fuse?

What fuse is blowing?

Headlights are 'not' fused.

Ok, just for the heck of it I would have a look at the dimmer switch
too. I recently burned out my CJ7's headlight switch, the same red wire
melted the big plug all to ---- and it also melted my dimmer switch.

I left the damn thing alone because it was only 5 years old and wired a
rocker switch for my headlights. I now have super white headlights but
my interior lights don't work anymore....

My CJ7 has the same GM light wiring as your FSJ.

Mike

"randallbrink@adelphia.net" wrote:
>
> I have a growing suspicion that you're right about the short, except
> that the high beam headlights are the only accessory that blows the
> fuse and the rest of the many components on that switch all work.
>
> Also, and this may or may not be relevant, but it was the rear part of
> the switch that fried, where the park, dash and dome light wires come
> into the switch block.
>
> If in light of this, you still believe that there is a short in the
> main (12 ga.) power supply wire, then I will start investigating the
> wire loom--a major undertaking, indeed!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Randall Brink



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