Fire Damage Repair
10-19-2005, 10:51 AM
#1
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Fire Damage Repair
Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
the ammeter.
Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
the nightmare inside.
Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
--
Randall Brink
Author
randallbrink@adelphia.net
1970 VW Type 1
1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
the ammeter.
Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
the nightmare inside.
Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
--
Randall Brink
Author
randallbrink@adelphia.net
1970 VW Type 1
1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
10-19-2005, 11:18 AM
#2
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Re: Fire Damage Repair
Well, you are right about the nightmare.....
I have repaired a lot of burned harnesses over the years and in the case
of dashes figure a replacement harness is usually the way to go.
There are companies like painless wiring for one that make kits for the
various vehicles. Maybe you could just buy the dash kit or maybe a
wrecker has one? The harness comes apart in modules at the fuse panel.
You need to unbolt the center back bolt on the panel's back and it comes
apart into a dash harness, an engine harness, a front clip harness and a
body harness.
Using a good wiring schematic, you might be able to replace the wires
one at a time, but heat has a tendency to change the wire colors which
can mess you up. The short that started the mess is also it's own issue
because those wires will melt internally so you think a length of
harness looks ok, but inside the wire harness wires have gone through
and are crossed with something else. On Jeeps, the orange wires are
nasty for doing this. A melt can happen on the exhaust or choke that
can fry the dash harness...
It takes a lot of patience, good luck.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Randall Brink wrote:
>
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
I have repaired a lot of burned harnesses over the years and in the case
of dashes figure a replacement harness is usually the way to go.
There are companies like painless wiring for one that make kits for the
various vehicles. Maybe you could just buy the dash kit or maybe a
wrecker has one? The harness comes apart in modules at the fuse panel.
You need to unbolt the center back bolt on the panel's back and it comes
apart into a dash harness, an engine harness, a front clip harness and a
body harness.
Using a good wiring schematic, you might be able to replace the wires
one at a time, but heat has a tendency to change the wire colors which
can mess you up. The short that started the mess is also it's own issue
because those wires will melt internally so you think a length of
harness looks ok, but inside the wire harness wires have gone through
and are crossed with something else. On Jeeps, the orange wires are
nasty for doing this. A melt can happen on the exhaust or choke that
can fry the dash harness...
It takes a lot of patience, good luck.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Randall Brink wrote:
>
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
10-19-2005, 11:18 AM
#3
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Re: Fire Damage Repair
Well, you are right about the nightmare.....
I have repaired a lot of burned harnesses over the years and in the case
of dashes figure a replacement harness is usually the way to go.
There are companies like painless wiring for one that make kits for the
various vehicles. Maybe you could just buy the dash kit or maybe a
wrecker has one? The harness comes apart in modules at the fuse panel.
You need to unbolt the center back bolt on the panel's back and it comes
apart into a dash harness, an engine harness, a front clip harness and a
body harness.
Using a good wiring schematic, you might be able to replace the wires
one at a time, but heat has a tendency to change the wire colors which
can mess you up. The short that started the mess is also it's own issue
because those wires will melt internally so you think a length of
harness looks ok, but inside the wire harness wires have gone through
and are crossed with something else. On Jeeps, the orange wires are
nasty for doing this. A melt can happen on the exhaust or choke that
can fry the dash harness...
It takes a lot of patience, good luck.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Randall Brink wrote:
>
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
I have repaired a lot of burned harnesses over the years and in the case
of dashes figure a replacement harness is usually the way to go.
There are companies like painless wiring for one that make kits for the
various vehicles. Maybe you could just buy the dash kit or maybe a
wrecker has one? The harness comes apart in modules at the fuse panel.
You need to unbolt the center back bolt on the panel's back and it comes
apart into a dash harness, an engine harness, a front clip harness and a
body harness.
Using a good wiring schematic, you might be able to replace the wires
one at a time, but heat has a tendency to change the wire colors which
can mess you up. The short that started the mess is also it's own issue
because those wires will melt internally so you think a length of
harness looks ok, but inside the wire harness wires have gone through
and are crossed with something else. On Jeeps, the orange wires are
nasty for doing this. A melt can happen on the exhaust or choke that
can fry the dash harness...
It takes a lot of patience, good luck.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Randall Brink wrote:
>
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
10-19-2005, 11:18 AM
#4
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Re: Fire Damage Repair
Well, you are right about the nightmare.....
I have repaired a lot of burned harnesses over the years and in the case
of dashes figure a replacement harness is usually the way to go.
There are companies like painless wiring for one that make kits for the
various vehicles. Maybe you could just buy the dash kit or maybe a
wrecker has one? The harness comes apart in modules at the fuse panel.
You need to unbolt the center back bolt on the panel's back and it comes
apart into a dash harness, an engine harness, a front clip harness and a
body harness.
Using a good wiring schematic, you might be able to replace the wires
one at a time, but heat has a tendency to change the wire colors which
can mess you up. The short that started the mess is also it's own issue
because those wires will melt internally so you think a length of
harness looks ok, but inside the wire harness wires have gone through
and are crossed with something else. On Jeeps, the orange wires are
nasty for doing this. A melt can happen on the exhaust or choke that
can fry the dash harness...
It takes a lot of patience, good luck.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Randall Brink wrote:
>
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
I have repaired a lot of burned harnesses over the years and in the case
of dashes figure a replacement harness is usually the way to go.
There are companies like painless wiring for one that make kits for the
various vehicles. Maybe you could just buy the dash kit or maybe a
wrecker has one? The harness comes apart in modules at the fuse panel.
You need to unbolt the center back bolt on the panel's back and it comes
apart into a dash harness, an engine harness, a front clip harness and a
body harness.
Using a good wiring schematic, you might be able to replace the wires
one at a time, but heat has a tendency to change the wire colors which
can mess you up. The short that started the mess is also it's own issue
because those wires will melt internally so you think a length of
harness looks ok, but inside the wire harness wires have gone through
and are crossed with something else. On Jeeps, the orange wires are
nasty for doing this. A melt can happen on the exhaust or choke that
can fry the dash harness...
It takes a lot of patience, good luck.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Randall Brink wrote:
>
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
10-19-2005, 12:14 PM
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Re: Fire Damage Repair
if you need any advise these guys should be able to help you
www.wagonmasters.com
"Randall Brink" <randallbrink@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1s-dnePoN_YYwMvenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out,
except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all
advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
>
>
www.wagonmasters.com
"Randall Brink" <randallbrink@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1s-dnePoN_YYwMvenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out,
except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all
advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
>
>
10-19-2005, 12:14 PM
#6
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Re: Fire Damage Repair
if you need any advise these guys should be able to help you
www.wagonmasters.com
"Randall Brink" <randallbrink@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1s-dnePoN_YYwMvenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out,
except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all
advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
>
>
www.wagonmasters.com
"Randall Brink" <randallbrink@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1s-dnePoN_YYwMvenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out,
except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all
advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
>
>
10-19-2005, 12:14 PM
#7
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Re: Fire Damage Repair
if you need any advise these guys should be able to help you
www.wagonmasters.com
"Randall Brink" <randallbrink@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1s-dnePoN_YYwMvenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out,
except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all
advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
>
>
www.wagonmasters.com
"Randall Brink" <randallbrink@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:1s-dnePoN_YYwMvenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@adelphia.com...
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out,
except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all
advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
>
>
10-19-2005, 11:34 PM
#8
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Posts: n/a
Re: Fire Damage Repair
bettr inspect the wiring from the dash to under the dash to the engine i have
rewired quite a few for these burn ups and parts such as connectors are drying
up fast
Randall Brink wrote:
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
rewired quite a few for these burn ups and parts such as connectors are drying
up fast
Randall Brink wrote:
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
10-19-2005, 11:34 PM
#9
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Fire Damage Repair
bettr inspect the wiring from the dash to under the dash to the engine i have
rewired quite a few for these burn ups and parts such as connectors are drying
up fast
Randall Brink wrote:
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
rewired quite a few for these burn ups and parts such as connectors are drying
up fast
Randall Brink wrote:
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
10-19-2005, 11:34 PM
#10
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Fire Damage Repair
bettr inspect the wiring from the dash to under the dash to the engine i have
rewired quite a few for these burn ups and parts such as connectors are drying
up fast
Randall Brink wrote:
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D
rewired quite a few for these burn ups and parts such as connectors are drying
up fast
Randall Brink wrote:
> Reposting this, in the hope of a reply...
>
> My GW caught fire behind the instrument panel and burned some wiring and
> destroyed the heater control box and panel. All instruments are out, except
> the ammeter.
>
> Has anyone experienced this, and/or, does anyone have any advice on the
> repair. I have located the instrument panel facia and the heater control
> box, but have not yet opened up the panel to look at what I assume will be
> the nightmare inside.
>
> Jeep starts and runs fine. A/C and AC fan out, too.
>
> I am starting into the project today, and am hopeful of any and all advice,
> comments, experiences, etc. with the area behind the panel.
> --
> Randall Brink
> Author
> randallbrink@adelphia.net
> 1970 VW Type 1
> 1975 Mercedes-Benz W115 240D