SB

measure you chassis length....maybe someone extended your bumper to bumper
length at your steering wheel!! haha


"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:40718962.144741078@news.east.earthlink.net...
> I don't know...I'll have to ask. From the responses I'm getting,
> something sure sounds fishy. I'm going to examine the seat mounting
> more closely and I'll post what I find.
>
> Rick
>
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:42:38 GMT, "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >He switched what?? The whole seat, just the foam, the slider and riser
> >and foam, what did he switch??
> >
> >--
> >--
> >Joe Pribe
> >NC
> >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
> >
> >
> >
> >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >news:4070f6cc.107214843@news.east.earthlink.net.. .
> >|
> >| That's weird. This one is a Sahara Edition, but I don't know why
> >that
> >| should make it different. I'll take another look at the seat...maybe
> >| there is something wrong with the adjustment mechanism. Also, we got
> >| this Jeep from my brother-in-law who said that he switched the
> >driver
> >| and passenger seats to keep the upholstery wear more even. I wonder
> >if
> >| the adjustment mechanism was somehow affected by the switch.
> >|
> >| Rick
> >|
> >|
> >| >Man, it really sounds like the seat riser, or the enitire seat, has
> >| >been replaced. I am 5'9", and have to have the seat all the way
> >back
> >| >in a YJ or a TJ (I drive my buds YJ at least 2x a week, and my TJ
> >seat
> >| >is always all the way back....) So go find yourself another YJ in
> >a
> >| >used car lot, and take a peek and see what is different..I bet you
> >| >will be surprised, and I would like to know what you find. Good
> >luck!
> >| >
> >| >--
> >| >--
> >| >Joe Pribe
> >| >NC
> >| >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> >| >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> >| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
> >| >
> >| >
> >| >
> >| >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >| >news:40707320.73507109@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
> >| >| My 6'1" son drives a 1990 Jeep Wrangler YJ (manual shift) and
> >even
> >| >| with his height, generally keeps the driver seat all the way
> >| >forward.
> >| >| When I (5'9") drive it, I can reach the pedals, but just barely.
> >He
> >| >| goes off to college next year and the Jeep has to stay home where
> >| >we'd
> >| >| like to have his sister (5'4") use it. Otherwise, we have to
> >| >purchase
> >| >| another car. The problem, of course, is that she just cannot
> >reach
> >| >the
> >| >| pedals. For some reason, this vehicle seems to have been designed
> >| >for
> >| >| tall-ish people only.
> >| >|
> >| >| I've looked at the seat adjustment and where the sliding rails on
> >| >the
> >| >| seat bottom are bolted to the seat tilt mechanism, it looks like
> >I
> >| >| might be able to drill another set of holes in the tilt mechanism
> >| >| about 1-1/2" forward of the existing holes and just re-position
> >the
> >| >| seat. But I don't think 1-1/2" is going to be enough for my
> >daugher.
> >| >| Repositioning the seat tilt mechanism on the floor does not
> >appear
> >| >to
> >| >| be an option becasue the floor is not flat and the bottom of this
> >| >| mechanism is contoured to the floor. Moving it forward would
> >cause a
> >| >| mis-match in the contours.
> >| >|
> >| >| Does anybody have any others ideas for getting this seat further
> >| >| forward? I would even consider replacing the seats and tilt
> >| >| mechanism...that's a lot cheaper than buying a new vehicle.
> >| >(Replacing
> >| >| the Jeep itself is not an option!). Maybe there are longer seat
> >| >slides
> >| >| available for the seat??...that would be ideal. I suppose I could
> >| >even
> >| >| put blocks on the pedals, but this seems a little hokie and we're
> >| >| probably talking 4" thick blocks on all three pedals.
> >| >|
> >| >| Thanks for any ideas.
> >| >|
> >| >| Rick
> >| >
> >|
> >
>

SB

measure you chassis length....maybe someone extended your bumper to bumper
length at your steering wheel!! haha


"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:40718962.144741078@news.east.earthlink.net...
> I don't know...I'll have to ask. From the responses I'm getting,
> something sure sounds fishy. I'm going to examine the seat mounting
> more closely and I'll post what I find.
>
> Rick
>
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:42:38 GMT, "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >He switched what?? The whole seat, just the foam, the slider and riser
> >and foam, what did he switch??
> >
> >--
> >--
> >Joe Pribe
> >NC
> >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
> >
> >
> >
> >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >news:4070f6cc.107214843@news.east.earthlink.net.. .
> >|
> >| That's weird. This one is a Sahara Edition, but I don't know why
> >that
> >| should make it different. I'll take another look at the seat...maybe
> >| there is something wrong with the adjustment mechanism. Also, we got
> >| this Jeep from my brother-in-law who said that he switched the
> >driver
> >| and passenger seats to keep the upholstery wear more even. I wonder
> >if
> >| the adjustment mechanism was somehow affected by the switch.
> >|
> >| Rick
> >|
> >|
> >| >Man, it really sounds like the seat riser, or the enitire seat, has
> >| >been replaced. I am 5'9", and have to have the seat all the way
> >back
> >| >in a YJ or a TJ (I drive my buds YJ at least 2x a week, and my TJ
> >seat
> >| >is always all the way back....) So go find yourself another YJ in
> >a
> >| >used car lot, and take a peek and see what is different..I bet you
> >| >will be surprised, and I would like to know what you find. Good
> >luck!
> >| >
> >| >--
> >| >--
> >| >Joe Pribe
> >| >NC
> >| >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> >| >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> >| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
> >| >
> >| >
> >| >
> >| >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >| >news:40707320.73507109@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
> >| >| My 6'1" son drives a 1990 Jeep Wrangler YJ (manual shift) and
> >even
> >| >| with his height, generally keeps the driver seat all the way
> >| >forward.
> >| >| When I (5'9") drive it, I can reach the pedals, but just barely.
> >He
> >| >| goes off to college next year and the Jeep has to stay home where
> >| >we'd
> >| >| like to have his sister (5'4") use it. Otherwise, we have to
> >| >purchase
> >| >| another car. The problem, of course, is that she just cannot
> >reach
> >| >the
> >| >| pedals. For some reason, this vehicle seems to have been designed
> >| >for
> >| >| tall-ish people only.
> >| >|
> >| >| I've looked at the seat adjustment and where the sliding rails on
> >| >the
> >| >| seat bottom are bolted to the seat tilt mechanism, it looks like
> >I
> >| >| might be able to drill another set of holes in the tilt mechanism
> >| >| about 1-1/2" forward of the existing holes and just re-position
> >the
> >| >| seat. But I don't think 1-1/2" is going to be enough for my
> >daugher.
> >| >| Repositioning the seat tilt mechanism on the floor does not
> >appear
> >| >to
> >| >| be an option becasue the floor is not flat and the bottom of this
> >| >| mechanism is contoured to the floor. Moving it forward would
> >cause a
> >| >| mis-match in the contours.
> >| >|
> >| >| Does anybody have any others ideas for getting this seat further
> >| >| forward? I would even consider replacing the seats and tilt
> >| >| mechanism...that's a lot cheaper than buying a new vehicle.
> >| >(Replacing
> >| >| the Jeep itself is not an option!). Maybe there are longer seat
> >| >slides
> >| >| available for the seat??...that would be ideal. I suppose I could
> >| >even
> >| >| put blocks on the pedals, but this seems a little hokie and we're
> >| >| probably talking 4" thick blocks on all three pedals.
> >| >|
> >| >| Thanks for any ideas.
> >| >|
> >| >| Rick
> >| >
> >|
> >
>

SB

measure you chassis length....maybe someone extended your bumper to bumper
length at your steering wheel!! haha


"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:40718962.144741078@news.east.earthlink.net...
> I don't know...I'll have to ask. From the responses I'm getting,
> something sure sounds fishy. I'm going to examine the seat mounting
> more closely and I'll post what I find.
>
> Rick
>
> On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:42:38 GMT, "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >He switched what?? The whole seat, just the foam, the slider and riser
> >and foam, what did he switch??
> >
> >--
> >--
> >Joe Pribe
> >NC
> >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
> >
> >
> >
> >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >news:4070f6cc.107214843@news.east.earthlink.net.. .
> >|
> >| That's weird. This one is a Sahara Edition, but I don't know why
> >that
> >| should make it different. I'll take another look at the seat...maybe
> >| there is something wrong with the adjustment mechanism. Also, we got
> >| this Jeep from my brother-in-law who said that he switched the
> >driver
> >| and passenger seats to keep the upholstery wear more even. I wonder
> >if
> >| the adjustment mechanism was somehow affected by the switch.
> >|
> >| Rick
> >|
> >|
> >| >Man, it really sounds like the seat riser, or the enitire seat, has
> >| >been replaced. I am 5'9", and have to have the seat all the way
> >back
> >| >in a YJ or a TJ (I drive my buds YJ at least 2x a week, and my TJ
> >seat
> >| >is always all the way back....) So go find yourself another YJ in
> >a
> >| >used car lot, and take a peek and see what is different..I bet you
> >| >will be surprised, and I would like to know what you find. Good
> >luck!
> >| >
> >| >--
> >| >--
> >| >Joe Pribe
> >| >NC
> >| >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
> >| >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> >| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
> >| >
> >| >
> >| >
> >| >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> >| >news:40707320.73507109@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
> >| >| My 6'1" son drives a 1990 Jeep Wrangler YJ (manual shift) and
> >even
> >| >| with his height, generally keeps the driver seat all the way
> >| >forward.
> >| >| When I (5'9") drive it, I can reach the pedals, but just barely.
> >He
> >| >| goes off to college next year and the Jeep has to stay home where
> >| >we'd
> >| >| like to have his sister (5'4") use it. Otherwise, we have to
> >| >purchase
> >| >| another car. The problem, of course, is that she just cannot
> >reach
> >| >the
> >| >| pedals. For some reason, this vehicle seems to have been designed
> >| >for
> >| >| tall-ish people only.
> >| >|
> >| >| I've looked at the seat adjustment and where the sliding rails on
> >| >the
> >| >| seat bottom are bolted to the seat tilt mechanism, it looks like
> >I
> >| >| might be able to drill another set of holes in the tilt mechanism
> >| >| about 1-1/2" forward of the existing holes and just re-position
> >the
> >| >| seat. But I don't think 1-1/2" is going to be enough for my
> >daugher.
> >| >| Repositioning the seat tilt mechanism on the floor does not
> >appear
> >| >to
> >| >| be an option becasue the floor is not flat and the bottom of this
> >| >| mechanism is contoured to the floor. Moving it forward would
> >cause a
> >| >| mis-match in the contours.
> >| >|
> >| >| Does anybody have any others ideas for getting this seat further
> >| >| forward? I would even consider replacing the seats and tilt
> >| >| mechanism...that's a lot cheaper than buying a new vehicle.
> >| >(Replacing
> >| >| the Jeep itself is not an option!). Maybe there are longer seat
> >| >slides
> >| >| available for the seat??...that would be ideal. I suppose I could
> >| >even
> >| >| put blocks on the pedals, but this seems a little hokie and we're
> >| >| probably talking 4" thick blocks on all three pedals.
> >| >|
> >| >| Thanks for any ideas.
> >| >|
> >| >| Rick
> >| >
> >|
> >
>

Rick Sink

My B-in-law just exchanged driver and passenger seats. Did not mess
with slides or tilt bases, so I don't think that's the problem.

Both passenger and driver seats adjust exactly the same amount forward
and backward. There does not appear to be anything wrong with them. If
I slide both forward all the way, then tilt both forward, they both
just miss bumping into the (factory) under-dash air-conditioning vent
housing. I assume this is as it should be? If the seats were able to
be slid further forward, for shorter drivers, the seat cushions would
hit the AC vent housing when the seats were tilted forward. If this is
the way it's arranged on other YJ's, it's a real puzzle to me how the
shorter drivers mentioned in this thread are sliding their seats BACK
and still able to reach the pedals????

Rick

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:42:38 GMT, "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>He switched what?? The whole seat, just the foam, the slider and riser
>and foam, what did he switch??
>
>--
>--
>Joe Pribe
>NC
>jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
>
>
>"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:4070f6cc.107214843@news.east.earthlink.net.. .
>|
>| That's weird. This one is a Sahara Edition, but I don't know why
>that
>| should make it different. I'll take another look at the seat...maybe
>| there is something wrong with the adjustment mechanism. Also, we got
>| this Jeep from my brother-in-law who said that he switched the
>driver
>| and passenger seats to keep the upholstery wear more even. I wonder
>if
>| the adjustment mechanism was somehow affected by the switch.
>|
>| Rick
>|
>|
>| >Man, it really sounds like the seat riser, or the enitire seat, has
>| >been replaced. I am 5'9", and have to have the seat all the way
>back
>| >in a YJ or a TJ (I drive my buds YJ at least 2x a week, and my TJ
>seat
>| >is always all the way back....) So go find yourself another YJ in
>a
>| >used car lot, and take a peek and see what is different..I bet you
>| >will be surprised, and I would like to know what you find. Good
>luck!
>| >
>| >--
>| >--
>| >Joe Pribe
>| >NC
>| >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>| >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
>| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>| >
>| >
>| >
>| >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>| >news:40707320.73507109@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
>| >| My 6'1" son drives a 1990 Jeep Wrangler YJ (manual shift) and
>even
>| >| with his height, generally keeps the driver seat all the way
>| >forward.
>| >| When I (5'9") drive it, I can reach the pedals, but just barely.
>He
>| >| goes off to college next year and the Jeep has to stay home where
>| >we'd
>| >| like to have his sister (5'4") use it. Otherwise, we have to
>| >purchase
>| >| another car. The problem, of course, is that she just cannot
>reach
>| >the
>| >| pedals. For some reason, this vehicle seems to have been designed
>| >for
>| >| tall-ish people only.
>| >|
>| >| I've looked at the seat adjustment and where the sliding rails on
>| >the
>| >| seat bottom are bolted to the seat tilt mechanism, it looks like
>I
>| >| might be able to drill another set of holes in the tilt mechanism
>| >| about 1-1/2" forward of the existing holes and just re-position
>the
>| >| seat. But I don't think 1-1/2" is going to be enough for my
>daugher.
>| >| Repositioning the seat tilt mechanism on the floor does not
>appear
>| >to
>| >| be an option becasue the floor is not flat and the bottom of this
>| >| mechanism is contoured to the floor. Moving it forward would
>cause a
>| >| mis-match in the contours.
>| >|
>| >| Does anybody have any others ideas for getting this seat further
>| >| forward? I would even consider replacing the seats and tilt
>| >| mechanism...that's a lot cheaper than buying a new vehicle.
>| >(Replacing
>| >| the Jeep itself is not an option!). Maybe there are longer seat
>| >slides
>| >| available for the seat??...that would be ideal. I suppose I could
>| >even
>| >| put blocks on the pedals, but this seems a little hokie and we're
>| >| probably talking 4" thick blocks on all three pedals.
>| >|
>| >| Thanks for any ideas.
>| >|
>| >| Rick
>| >
>|
>

Rick Sink

My B-in-law just exchanged driver and passenger seats. Did not mess
with slides or tilt bases, so I don't think that's the problem.

Both passenger and driver seats adjust exactly the same amount forward
and backward. There does not appear to be anything wrong with them. If
I slide both forward all the way, then tilt both forward, they both
just miss bumping into the (factory) under-dash air-conditioning vent
housing. I assume this is as it should be? If the seats were able to
be slid further forward, for shorter drivers, the seat cushions would
hit the AC vent housing when the seats were tilted forward. If this is
the way it's arranged on other YJ's, it's a real puzzle to me how the
shorter drivers mentioned in this thread are sliding their seats BACK
and still able to reach the pedals????

Rick

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:42:38 GMT, "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>He switched what?? The whole seat, just the foam, the slider and riser
>and foam, what did he switch??
>
>--
>--
>Joe Pribe
>NC
>jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
>
>
>"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:4070f6cc.107214843@news.east.earthlink.net.. .
>|
>| That's weird. This one is a Sahara Edition, but I don't know why
>that
>| should make it different. I'll take another look at the seat...maybe
>| there is something wrong with the adjustment mechanism. Also, we got
>| this Jeep from my brother-in-law who said that he switched the
>driver
>| and passenger seats to keep the upholstery wear more even. I wonder
>if
>| the adjustment mechanism was somehow affected by the switch.
>|
>| Rick
>|
>|
>| >Man, it really sounds like the seat riser, or the enitire seat, has
>| >been replaced. I am 5'9", and have to have the seat all the way
>back
>| >in a YJ or a TJ (I drive my buds YJ at least 2x a week, and my TJ
>seat
>| >is always all the way back....) So go find yourself another YJ in
>a
>| >used car lot, and take a peek and see what is different..I bet you
>| >will be surprised, and I would like to know what you find. Good
>luck!
>| >
>| >--
>| >--
>| >Joe Pribe
>| >NC
>| >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>| >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
>| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>| >
>| >
>| >
>| >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>| >news:40707320.73507109@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
>| >| My 6'1" son drives a 1990 Jeep Wrangler YJ (manual shift) and
>even
>| >| with his height, generally keeps the driver seat all the way
>| >forward.
>| >| When I (5'9") drive it, I can reach the pedals, but just barely.
>He
>| >| goes off to college next year and the Jeep has to stay home where
>| >we'd
>| >| like to have his sister (5'4") use it. Otherwise, we have to
>| >purchase
>| >| another car. The problem, of course, is that she just cannot
>reach
>| >the
>| >| pedals. For some reason, this vehicle seems to have been designed
>| >for
>| >| tall-ish people only.
>| >|
>| >| I've looked at the seat adjustment and where the sliding rails on
>| >the
>| >| seat bottom are bolted to the seat tilt mechanism, it looks like
>I
>| >| might be able to drill another set of holes in the tilt mechanism
>| >| about 1-1/2" forward of the existing holes and just re-position
>the
>| >| seat. But I don't think 1-1/2" is going to be enough for my
>daugher.
>| >| Repositioning the seat tilt mechanism on the floor does not
>appear
>| >to
>| >| be an option becasue the floor is not flat and the bottom of this
>| >| mechanism is contoured to the floor. Moving it forward would
>cause a
>| >| mis-match in the contours.
>| >|
>| >| Does anybody have any others ideas for getting this seat further
>| >| forward? I would even consider replacing the seats and tilt
>| >| mechanism...that's a lot cheaper than buying a new vehicle.
>| >(Replacing
>| >| the Jeep itself is not an option!). Maybe there are longer seat
>| >slides
>| >| available for the seat??...that would be ideal. I suppose I could
>| >even
>| >| put blocks on the pedals, but this seems a little hokie and we're
>| >| probably talking 4" thick blocks on all three pedals.
>| >|
>| >| Thanks for any ideas.
>| >|
>| >| Rick
>| >
>|
>

Rick Sink

My B-in-law just exchanged driver and passenger seats. Did not mess
with slides or tilt bases, so I don't think that's the problem.

Both passenger and driver seats adjust exactly the same amount forward
and backward. There does not appear to be anything wrong with them. If
I slide both forward all the way, then tilt both forward, they both
just miss bumping into the (factory) under-dash air-conditioning vent
housing. I assume this is as it should be? If the seats were able to
be slid further forward, for shorter drivers, the seat cushions would
hit the AC vent housing when the seats were tilted forward. If this is
the way it's arranged on other YJ's, it's a real puzzle to me how the
shorter drivers mentioned in this thread are sliding their seats BACK
and still able to reach the pedals????

Rick

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:42:38 GMT, "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>He switched what?? The whole seat, just the foam, the slider and riser
>and foam, what did he switch??
>
>--
>--
>Joe Pribe
>NC
>jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
>
>
>"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:4070f6cc.107214843@news.east.earthlink.net.. .
>|
>| That's weird. This one is a Sahara Edition, but I don't know why
>that
>| should make it different. I'll take another look at the seat...maybe
>| there is something wrong with the adjustment mechanism. Also, we got
>| this Jeep from my brother-in-law who said that he switched the
>driver
>| and passenger seats to keep the upholstery wear more even. I wonder
>if
>| the adjustment mechanism was somehow affected by the switch.
>|
>| Rick
>|
>|
>| >Man, it really sounds like the seat riser, or the enitire seat, has
>| >been replaced. I am 5'9", and have to have the seat all the way
>back
>| >in a YJ or a TJ (I drive my buds YJ at least 2x a week, and my TJ
>seat
>| >is always all the way back....) So go find yourself another YJ in
>a
>| >used car lot, and take a peek and see what is different..I bet you
>| >will be surprised, and I would like to know what you find. Good
>luck!
>| >
>| >--
>| >--
>| >Joe Pribe
>| >NC
>| >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>| >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
>| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>| >
>| >
>| >
>| >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>| >news:40707320.73507109@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
>| >| My 6'1" son drives a 1990 Jeep Wrangler YJ (manual shift) and
>even
>| >| with his height, generally keeps the driver seat all the way
>| >forward.
>| >| When I (5'9") drive it, I can reach the pedals, but just barely.
>He
>| >| goes off to college next year and the Jeep has to stay home where
>| >we'd
>| >| like to have his sister (5'4") use it. Otherwise, we have to
>| >purchase
>| >| another car. The problem, of course, is that she just cannot
>reach
>| >the
>| >| pedals. For some reason, this vehicle seems to have been designed
>| >for
>| >| tall-ish people only.
>| >|
>| >| I've looked at the seat adjustment and where the sliding rails on
>| >the
>| >| seat bottom are bolted to the seat tilt mechanism, it looks like
>I
>| >| might be able to drill another set of holes in the tilt mechanism
>| >| about 1-1/2" forward of the existing holes and just re-position
>the
>| >| seat. But I don't think 1-1/2" is going to be enough for my
>daugher.
>| >| Repositioning the seat tilt mechanism on the floor does not
>appear
>| >to
>| >| be an option becasue the floor is not flat and the bottom of this
>| >| mechanism is contoured to the floor. Moving it forward would
>cause a
>| >| mis-match in the contours.
>| >|
>| >| Does anybody have any others ideas for getting this seat further
>| >| forward? I would even consider replacing the seats and tilt
>| >| mechanism...that's a lot cheaper than buying a new vehicle.
>| >(Replacing
>| >| the Jeep itself is not an option!). Maybe there are longer seat
>| >slides
>| >| available for the seat??...that would be ideal. I suppose I could
>| >even
>| >| put blocks on the pedals, but this seems a little hokie and we're
>| >| probably talking 4" thick blocks on all three pedals.
>| >|
>| >| Thanks for any ideas.
>| >|
>| >| Rick
>| >
>|
>

Rick Sink

My B-in-law just exchanged driver and passenger seats. Did not mess
with slides or tilt bases, so I don't think that's the problem.

Both passenger and driver seats adjust exactly the same amount forward
and backward. There does not appear to be anything wrong with them. If
I slide both forward all the way, then tilt both forward, they both
just miss bumping into the (factory) under-dash air-conditioning vent
housing. I assume this is as it should be? If the seats were able to
be slid further forward, for shorter drivers, the seat cushions would
hit the AC vent housing when the seats were tilted forward. If this is
the way it's arranged on other YJ's, it's a real puzzle to me how the
shorter drivers mentioned in this thread are sliding their seats BACK
and still able to reach the pedals????

Rick

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:42:38 GMT, "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>He switched what?? The whole seat, just the foam, the slider and riser
>and foam, what did he switch??
>
>--
>--
>Joe Pribe
>NC
>jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>
>
>
>"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:4070f6cc.107214843@news.east.earthlink.net.. .
>|
>| That's weird. This one is a Sahara Edition, but I don't know why
>that
>| should make it different. I'll take another look at the seat...maybe
>| there is something wrong with the adjustment mechanism. Also, we got
>| this Jeep from my brother-in-law who said that he switched the
>driver
>| and passenger seats to keep the upholstery wear more even. I wonder
>if
>| the adjustment mechanism was somehow affected by the switch.
>|
>| Rick
>|
>|
>| >Man, it really sounds like the seat riser, or the enitire seat, has
>| >been replaced. I am 5'9", and have to have the seat all the way
>back
>| >in a YJ or a TJ (I drive my buds YJ at least 2x a week, and my TJ
>seat
>| >is always all the way back....) So go find yourself another YJ in
>a
>| >used car lot, and take a peek and see what is different..I bet you
>| >will be surprised, and I would like to know what you find. Good
>luck!
>| >
>| >--
>| >--
>| >Joe Pribe
>| >NC
>| >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>| >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
>| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>| >
>| >
>| >
>| >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>| >news:40707320.73507109@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
>| >| My 6'1" son drives a 1990 Jeep Wrangler YJ (manual shift) and
>even
>| >| with his height, generally keeps the driver seat all the way
>| >forward.
>| >| When I (5'9") drive it, I can reach the pedals, but just barely.
>He
>| >| goes off to college next year and the Jeep has to stay home where
>| >we'd
>| >| like to have his sister (5'4") use it. Otherwise, we have to
>| >purchase
>| >| another car. The problem, of course, is that she just cannot
>reach
>| >the
>| >| pedals. For some reason, this vehicle seems to have been designed
>| >for
>| >| tall-ish people only.
>| >|
>| >| I've looked at the seat adjustment and where the sliding rails on
>| >the
>| >| seat bottom are bolted to the seat tilt mechanism, it looks like
>I
>| >| might be able to drill another set of holes in the tilt mechanism
>| >| about 1-1/2" forward of the existing holes and just re-position
>the
>| >| seat. But I don't think 1-1/2" is going to be enough for my
>daugher.
>| >| Repositioning the seat tilt mechanism on the floor does not
>appear
>| >to
>| >| be an option becasue the floor is not flat and the bottom of this
>| >| mechanism is contoured to the floor. Moving it forward would
>cause a
>| >| mis-match in the contours.
>| >|
>| >| Does anybody have any others ideas for getting this seat further
>| >| forward? I would even consider replacing the seats and tilt
>| >| mechanism...that's a lot cheaper than buying a new vehicle.
>| >(Replacing
>| >| the Jeep itself is not an option!). Maybe there are longer seat
>| >slides
>| >| available for the seat??...that would be ideal. I suppose I could
>| >even
>| >| put blocks on the pedals, but this seems a little hokie and we're
>| >| probably talking 4" thick blocks on all three pedals.
>| >|
>| >| Thanks for any ideas.
>| >|
>| >| Rick
>| >
>|
>

Rick Sink

Hold the phone!!! I measured the passenger and driver seats for what
seems like the upteenth time. THIS TIME I finally noticed a difference
in the way the mounting rails are positioned. Evidently, the driver
side rail extends a little further than the passenger side. Since my
passenger and driver seats have been switched, they coincidentally
extend forward the same distance and they both hit (after market)
speaker enclosures when slid back. So I was snookered into thinking
that they both had identical travel adjustments. But if I switch them
back the way they are supposed to go, I think I'm goiing to find that
the driver seat actually does slide closer to the pedals. Man!...I was
beginning to feel like a Twilight Zone resident for a while there.

Rick

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 23:01:19 GMT, ricksink@mindspring.com (Rick Sink)
wrote:

>My B-in-law just exchanged driver and passenger seats. Did not mess
>with slides or tilt bases, so I don't think that's the problem.
>
>Both passenger and driver seats adjust exactly the same amount forward
>and backward. There does not appear to be anything wrong with them. If
>I slide both forward all the way, then tilt both forward, they both
>just miss bumping into the (factory) under-dash air-conditioning vent
>housing. I assume this is as it should be? If the seats were able to
>be slid further forward, for shorter drivers, the seat cushions would
>hit the AC vent housing when the seats were tilted forward. If this is
>the way it's arranged on other YJ's, it's a real puzzle to me how the
>shorter drivers mentioned in this thread are sliding their seats BACK
>and still able to reach the pedals????
>
>Rick
>
>On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:42:38 GMT, "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>He switched what?? The whole seat, just the foam, the slider and riser
>>and foam, what did he switch??
>>
>>--
>>--
>>Joe Pribe
>>NC
>>jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>>jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
>> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>>
>>
>>
>>"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>news:4070f6cc.107214843@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
>>|
>>| That's weird. This one is a Sahara Edition, but I don't know why
>>that
>>| should make it different. I'll take another look at the seat...maybe
>>| there is something wrong with the adjustment mechanism. Also, we got
>>| this Jeep from my brother-in-law who said that he switched the
>>driver
>>| and passenger seats to keep the upholstery wear more even. I wonder
>>if
>>| the adjustment mechanism was somehow affected by the switch.
>>|
>>| Rick
>>|
>>|
>>| >Man, it really sounds like the seat riser, or the enitire seat, has
>>| >been replaced. I am 5'9", and have to have the seat all the way
>>back
>>| >in a YJ or a TJ (I drive my buds YJ at least 2x a week, and my TJ
>>seat
>>| >is always all the way back....) So go find yourself another YJ in
>>a
>>| >used car lot, and take a peek and see what is different..I bet you
>>| >will be surprised, and I would like to know what you find. Good
>>luck!
>>| >
>>| >--
>>| >--
>>| >Joe Pribe
>>| >NC
>>| >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>>| >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
>>| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>>| >
>>| >
>>| >
>>| >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>| >news:40707320.73507109@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
>>| >| My 6'1" son drives a 1990 Jeep Wrangler YJ (manual shift) and
>>even
>>| >| with his height, generally keeps the driver seat all the way
>>| >forward.
>>| >| When I (5'9") drive it, I can reach the pedals, but just barely.
>>He
>>| >| goes off to college next year and the Jeep has to stay home where
>>| >we'd
>>| >| like to have his sister (5'4") use it. Otherwise, we have to
>>| >purchase
>>| >| another car. The problem, of course, is that she just cannot
>>reach
>>| >the
>>| >| pedals. For some reason, this vehicle seems to have been designed
>>| >for
>>| >| tall-ish people only.
>>| >|
>>| >| I've looked at the seat adjustment and where the sliding rails on
>>| >the
>>| >| seat bottom are bolted to the seat tilt mechanism, it looks like
>>I
>>| >| might be able to drill another set of holes in the tilt mechanism
>>| >| about 1-1/2" forward of the existing holes and just re-position
>>the
>>| >| seat. But I don't think 1-1/2" is going to be enough for my
>>daugher.
>>| >| Repositioning the seat tilt mechanism on the floor does not
>>appear
>>| >to
>>| >| be an option becasue the floor is not flat and the bottom of this
>>| >| mechanism is contoured to the floor. Moving it forward would
>>cause a
>>| >| mis-match in the contours.
>>| >|
>>| >| Does anybody have any others ideas for getting this seat further
>>| >| forward? I would even consider replacing the seats and tilt
>>| >| mechanism...that's a lot cheaper than buying a new vehicle.
>>| >(Replacing
>>| >| the Jeep itself is not an option!). Maybe there are longer seat
>>| >slides
>>| >| available for the seat??...that would be ideal. I suppose I could
>>| >even
>>| >| put blocks on the pedals, but this seems a little hokie and we're
>>| >| probably talking 4" thick blocks on all three pedals.
>>| >|
>>| >| Thanks for any ideas.
>>| >|
>>| >| Rick
>>| >
>>|
>>
>

Rick Sink

Hold the phone!!! I measured the passenger and driver seats for what
seems like the upteenth time. THIS TIME I finally noticed a difference
in the way the mounting rails are positioned. Evidently, the driver
side rail extends a little further than the passenger side. Since my
passenger and driver seats have been switched, they coincidentally
extend forward the same distance and they both hit (after market)
speaker enclosures when slid back. So I was snookered into thinking
that they both had identical travel adjustments. But if I switch them
back the way they are supposed to go, I think I'm goiing to find that
the driver seat actually does slide closer to the pedals. Man!...I was
beginning to feel like a Twilight Zone resident for a while there.

Rick

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 23:01:19 GMT, ricksink@mindspring.com (Rick Sink)
wrote:

>My B-in-law just exchanged driver and passenger seats. Did not mess
>with slides or tilt bases, so I don't think that's the problem.
>
>Both passenger and driver seats adjust exactly the same amount forward
>and backward. There does not appear to be anything wrong with them. If
>I slide both forward all the way, then tilt both forward, they both
>just miss bumping into the (factory) under-dash air-conditioning vent
>housing. I assume this is as it should be? If the seats were able to
>be slid further forward, for shorter drivers, the seat cushions would
>hit the AC vent housing when the seats were tilted forward. If this is
>the way it's arranged on other YJ's, it's a real puzzle to me how the
>shorter drivers mentioned in this thread are sliding their seats BACK
>and still able to reach the pedals????
>
>Rick
>
>On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:42:38 GMT, "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>He switched what?? The whole seat, just the foam, the slider and riser
>>and foam, what did he switch??
>>
>>--
>>--
>>Joe Pribe
>>NC
>>jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>>jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
>> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>>
>>
>>
>>"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>news:4070f6cc.107214843@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
>>|
>>| That's weird. This one is a Sahara Edition, but I don't know why
>>that
>>| should make it different. I'll take another look at the seat...maybe
>>| there is something wrong with the adjustment mechanism. Also, we got
>>| this Jeep from my brother-in-law who said that he switched the
>>driver
>>| and passenger seats to keep the upholstery wear more even. I wonder
>>if
>>| the adjustment mechanism was somehow affected by the switch.
>>|
>>| Rick
>>|
>>|
>>| >Man, it really sounds like the seat riser, or the enitire seat, has
>>| >been replaced. I am 5'9", and have to have the seat all the way
>>back
>>| >in a YJ or a TJ (I drive my buds YJ at least 2x a week, and my TJ
>>seat
>>| >is always all the way back....) So go find yourself another YJ in
>>a
>>| >used car lot, and take a peek and see what is different..I bet you
>>| >will be surprised, and I would like to know what you find. Good
>>luck!
>>| >
>>| >--
>>| >--
>>| >Joe Pribe
>>| >NC
>>| >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>>| >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
>>| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>>| >
>>| >
>>| >
>>| >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>| >news:40707320.73507109@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
>>| >| My 6'1" son drives a 1990 Jeep Wrangler YJ (manual shift) and
>>even
>>| >| with his height, generally keeps the driver seat all the way
>>| >forward.
>>| >| When I (5'9") drive it, I can reach the pedals, but just barely.
>>He
>>| >| goes off to college next year and the Jeep has to stay home where
>>| >we'd
>>| >| like to have his sister (5'4") use it. Otherwise, we have to
>>| >purchase
>>| >| another car. The problem, of course, is that she just cannot
>>reach
>>| >the
>>| >| pedals. For some reason, this vehicle seems to have been designed
>>| >for
>>| >| tall-ish people only.
>>| >|
>>| >| I've looked at the seat adjustment and where the sliding rails on
>>| >the
>>| >| seat bottom are bolted to the seat tilt mechanism, it looks like
>>I
>>| >| might be able to drill another set of holes in the tilt mechanism
>>| >| about 1-1/2" forward of the existing holes and just re-position
>>the
>>| >| seat. But I don't think 1-1/2" is going to be enough for my
>>daugher.
>>| >| Repositioning the seat tilt mechanism on the floor does not
>>appear
>>| >to
>>| >| be an option becasue the floor is not flat and the bottom of this
>>| >| mechanism is contoured to the floor. Moving it forward would
>>cause a
>>| >| mis-match in the contours.
>>| >|
>>| >| Does anybody have any others ideas for getting this seat further
>>| >| forward? I would even consider replacing the seats and tilt
>>| >| mechanism...that's a lot cheaper than buying a new vehicle.
>>| >(Replacing
>>| >| the Jeep itself is not an option!). Maybe there are longer seat
>>| >slides
>>| >| available for the seat??...that would be ideal. I suppose I could
>>| >even
>>| >| put blocks on the pedals, but this seems a little hokie and we're
>>| >| probably talking 4" thick blocks on all three pedals.
>>| >|
>>| >| Thanks for any ideas.
>>| >|
>>| >| Rick
>>| >
>>|
>>
>

Rick Sink

Hold the phone!!! I measured the passenger and driver seats for what
seems like the upteenth time. THIS TIME I finally noticed a difference
in the way the mounting rails are positioned. Evidently, the driver
side rail extends a little further than the passenger side. Since my
passenger and driver seats have been switched, they coincidentally
extend forward the same distance and they both hit (after market)
speaker enclosures when slid back. So I was snookered into thinking
that they both had identical travel adjustments. But if I switch them
back the way they are supposed to go, I think I'm goiing to find that
the driver seat actually does slide closer to the pedals. Man!...I was
beginning to feel like a Twilight Zone resident for a while there.

Rick

On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 23:01:19 GMT, ricksink@mindspring.com (Rick Sink)
wrote:

>My B-in-law just exchanged driver and passenger seats. Did not mess
>with slides or tilt bases, so I don't think that's the problem.
>
>Both passenger and driver seats adjust exactly the same amount forward
>and backward. There does not appear to be anything wrong with them. If
>I slide both forward all the way, then tilt both forward, they both
>just miss bumping into the (factory) under-dash air-conditioning vent
>housing. I assume this is as it should be? If the seats were able to
>be slid further forward, for shorter drivers, the seat cushions would
>hit the AC vent housing when the seats were tilted forward. If this is
>the way it's arranged on other YJ's, it's a real puzzle to me how the
>shorter drivers mentioned in this thread are sliding their seats BACK
>and still able to reach the pedals????
>
>Rick
>
>On Mon, 05 Apr 2004 14:42:38 GMT, "Joseph P" <jpribe@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>He switched what?? The whole seat, just the foam, the slider and riser
>>and foam, what did he switch??
>>
>>--
>>--
>>Joe Pribe
>>NC
>>jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>>jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
>> ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>>
>>
>>
>>"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>news:4070f6cc.107214843@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
>>|
>>| That's weird. This one is a Sahara Edition, but I don't know why
>>that
>>| should make it different. I'll take another look at the seat...maybe
>>| there is something wrong with the adjustment mechanism. Also, we got
>>| this Jeep from my brother-in-law who said that he switched the
>>driver
>>| and passenger seats to keep the upholstery wear more even. I wonder
>>if
>>| the adjustment mechanism was somehow affected by the switch.
>>|
>>| Rick
>>|
>>|
>>| >Man, it really sounds like the seat riser, or the enitire seat, has
>>| >been replaced. I am 5'9", and have to have the seat all the way
>>back
>>| >in a YJ or a TJ (I drive my buds YJ at least 2x a week, and my TJ
>>seat
>>| >is always all the way back....) So go find yourself another YJ in
>>a
>>| >used car lot, and take a peek and see what is different..I bet you
>>| >will be surprised, and I would like to know what you find. Good
>>luck!
>>| >
>>| >--
>>| >--
>>| >Joe Pribe
>>| >NC
>>| >jpribe 'at' nc.rr.com <you know the drill
>>| >jegp 'at' hotmail.com < at is really @
>>| > ---- I Love My O|||||||O TJ
>>| >
>>| >
>>| >
>>| >"Rick Sink" <ricksink@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>| >news:40707320.73507109@news.east.earthlink.net. ..
>>| >| My 6'1" son drives a 1990 Jeep Wrangler YJ (manual shift) and
>>even
>>| >| with his height, generally keeps the driver seat all the way
>>| >forward.
>>| >| When I (5'9") drive it, I can reach the pedals, but just barely.
>>He
>>| >| goes off to college next year and the Jeep has to stay home where
>>| >we'd
>>| >| like to have his sister (5'4") use it. Otherwise, we have to
>>| >purchase
>>| >| another car. The problem, of course, is that she just cannot
>>reach
>>| >the
>>| >| pedals. For some reason, this vehicle seems to have been designed
>>| >for
>>| >| tall-ish people only.
>>| >|
>>| >| I've looked at the seat adjustment and where the sliding rails on
>>| >the
>>| >| seat bottom are bolted to the seat tilt mechanism, it looks like
>>I
>>| >| might be able to drill another set of holes in the tilt mechanism
>>| >| about 1-1/2" forward of the existing holes and just re-position
>>the
>>| >| seat. But I don't think 1-1/2" is going to be enough for my
>>daugher.
>>| >| Repositioning the seat tilt mechanism on the floor does not
>>appear
>>| >to
>>| >| be an option becasue the floor is not flat and the bottom of this
>>| >| mechanism is contoured to the floor. Moving it forward would
>>cause a
>>| >| mis-match in the contours.
>>| >|
>>| >| Does anybody have any others ideas for getting this seat further
>>| >| forward? I would even consider replacing the seats and tilt
>>| >| mechanism...that's a lot cheaper than buying a new vehicle.
>>| >(Replacing
>>| >| the Jeep itself is not an option!). Maybe there are longer seat
>>| >slides
>>| >| available for the seat??...that would be ideal. I suppose I could
>>| >even
>>| >| put blocks on the pedals, but this seems a little hokie and we're
>>| >| probably talking 4" thick blocks on all three pedals.
>>| >|
>>| >| Thanks for any ideas.
>>| >|
>>| >| Rick
>>| >
>>|
>>
>