budman@suckeggs.ca

Just bought a new Liberty CRD and of course I got the usual sales pitch from the
business 'manager' about the virtues of an extended warranty, and especially in
this case for a diesel. He's trying to sell me the Gold Plus plan because it
provides 10 free oil changes over the life of the plan. He told me that he's
sure that Chrysler "made a mistake" on this, because oil changes on a diesel are
worth $125.00 a pop.

Would anyone care to verify or dispute this? And while we're at it, if you were
buying a new Liberty CRD, which extended warranty would be most appropriate for
the long haul?

Thanx folks

Mike Romain

When someone starts lying to me, it is time to walk.

$125.00 for an oil change???????????

That's theft.

Canadian Tire just said $49.95 at the most because it's a CRD, the
regular engine is about $25.00.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

budman@suckeggs.ca wrote:
>
> Just bought a new Liberty CRD and of course I got the usual sales pitch from the
> business 'manager' about the virtues of an extended warranty, and especially in
> this case for a diesel. He's trying to sell me the Gold Plus plan because it
> provides 10 free oil changes over the life of the plan. He told me that he's
> sure that Chrysler "made a mistake" on this, because oil changes on a diesel are
> worth $125.00 a pop.
>
> Would anyone care to verify or dispute this? And while we're at it, if you were
> buying a new Liberty CRD, which extended warranty would be most appropriate for
> the long haul?
>
> Thanx folks

Mike Romain

When someone starts lying to me, it is time to walk.

$125.00 for an oil change???????????

That's theft.

Canadian Tire just said $49.95 at the most because it's a CRD, the
regular engine is about $25.00.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

budman@suckeggs.ca wrote:
>
> Just bought a new Liberty CRD and of course I got the usual sales pitch from the
> business 'manager' about the virtues of an extended warranty, and especially in
> this case for a diesel. He's trying to sell me the Gold Plus plan because it
> provides 10 free oil changes over the life of the plan. He told me that he's
> sure that Chrysler "made a mistake" on this, because oil changes on a diesel are
> worth $125.00 a pop.
>
> Would anyone care to verify or dispute this? And while we're at it, if you were
> buying a new Liberty CRD, which extended warranty would be most appropriate for
> the long haul?
>
> Thanx folks

Mike Romain

When someone starts lying to me, it is time to walk.

$125.00 for an oil change???????????

That's theft.

Canadian Tire just said $49.95 at the most because it's a CRD, the
regular engine is about $25.00.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

budman@suckeggs.ca wrote:
>
> Just bought a new Liberty CRD and of course I got the usual sales pitch from the
> business 'manager' about the virtues of an extended warranty, and especially in
> this case for a diesel. He's trying to sell me the Gold Plus plan because it
> provides 10 free oil changes over the life of the plan. He told me that he's
> sure that Chrysler "made a mistake" on this, because oil changes on a diesel are
> worth $125.00 a pop.
>
> Would anyone care to verify or dispute this? And while we're at it, if you were
> buying a new Liberty CRD, which extended warranty would be most appropriate for
> the long haul?
>
> Thanx folks

DougW

budman@suckeggs.ca did pass the time by typing:
> Just bought a new Liberty CRD and of course I got the usual sales pitch from
> the business 'manager' about the virtues of an extended warranty, and
> especially in this case for a diesel. He's trying to sell me the Gold Plus
> plan because it provides 10 free oil changes over the life of the plan. He
> told me that he's sure that Chrysler "made a mistake" on this, because oil
> changes on a diesel are worth $125.00 a pop.

Call another dealer and ask how much it would be to get an oil change for
your Jeep. :)

> Would anyone care to verify or dispute this? And while we're at it, if you
> were buying a new Liberty CRD, which extended warranty would be most
> appropriate for the long haul?

It all depends on how long you expect to keep the vehicle and
how much you want or are willing to do yourself.

Take the basic warranty. Look at bumper-to-bumper and powertrain
separately. Electronics usually fail in the first few months of
operation then last and last till age eventually causes failure
(it's called a bathtub curve) Daily operations like the power
door/windows/latches/seats/etc all eventually fail but generally
they work for more than ten years even with a lot of use.

For the most part, the electronics that fail can be easily replaced
by the average back yard mechanic. The cost isn't cheap but that is
the trade you have to make. Pay up-front for the extended plan and
hope things break enough that your not out of money, or don't get
the plan and hope things don't break. It's a gamble.

If you plan on lifting or modifying the vehicle, check your countries
laws. Down South here we have the Magnusson Moss Warranty Act. Dunno
if there is a similar one for Canada.

I got the money out of my 7-70 powertrain. Mostly new seals on the
transmission, transfer case, CV boots, valve cover, etc. If it broke
I had them fix it, no matter how small. :)

Of course it's well past the waranty end now so it's all on me. Good
thing I do most of my own work.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

DougW

budman@suckeggs.ca did pass the time by typing:
> Just bought a new Liberty CRD and of course I got the usual sales pitch from
> the business 'manager' about the virtues of an extended warranty, and
> especially in this case for a diesel. He's trying to sell me the Gold Plus
> plan because it provides 10 free oil changes over the life of the plan. He
> told me that he's sure that Chrysler "made a mistake" on this, because oil
> changes on a diesel are worth $125.00 a pop.

Call another dealer and ask how much it would be to get an oil change for
your Jeep. :)

> Would anyone care to verify or dispute this? And while we're at it, if you
> were buying a new Liberty CRD, which extended warranty would be most
> appropriate for the long haul?

It all depends on how long you expect to keep the vehicle and
how much you want or are willing to do yourself.

Take the basic warranty. Look at bumper-to-bumper and powertrain
separately. Electronics usually fail in the first few months of
operation then last and last till age eventually causes failure
(it's called a bathtub curve) Daily operations like the power
door/windows/latches/seats/etc all eventually fail but generally
they work for more than ten years even with a lot of use.

For the most part, the electronics that fail can be easily replaced
by the average back yard mechanic. The cost isn't cheap but that is
the trade you have to make. Pay up-front for the extended plan and
hope things break enough that your not out of money, or don't get
the plan and hope things don't break. It's a gamble.

If you plan on lifting or modifying the vehicle, check your countries
laws. Down South here we have the Magnusson Moss Warranty Act. Dunno
if there is a similar one for Canada.

I got the money out of my 7-70 powertrain. Mostly new seals on the
transmission, transfer case, CV boots, valve cover, etc. If it broke
I had them fix it, no matter how small. :)

Of course it's well past the waranty end now so it's all on me. Good
thing I do most of my own work.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

DougW

budman@suckeggs.ca did pass the time by typing:
> Just bought a new Liberty CRD and of course I got the usual sales pitch from
> the business 'manager' about the virtues of an extended warranty, and
> especially in this case for a diesel. He's trying to sell me the Gold Plus
> plan because it provides 10 free oil changes over the life of the plan. He
> told me that he's sure that Chrysler "made a mistake" on this, because oil
> changes on a diesel are worth $125.00 a pop.

Call another dealer and ask how much it would be to get an oil change for
your Jeep. :)

> Would anyone care to verify or dispute this? And while we're at it, if you
> were buying a new Liberty CRD, which extended warranty would be most
> appropriate for the long haul?

It all depends on how long you expect to keep the vehicle and
how much you want or are willing to do yourself.

Take the basic warranty. Look at bumper-to-bumper and powertrain
separately. Electronics usually fail in the first few months of
operation then last and last till age eventually causes failure
(it's called a bathtub curve) Daily operations like the power
door/windows/latches/seats/etc all eventually fail but generally
they work for more than ten years even with a lot of use.

For the most part, the electronics that fail can be easily replaced
by the average back yard mechanic. The cost isn't cheap but that is
the trade you have to make. Pay up-front for the extended plan and
hope things break enough that your not out of money, or don't get
the plan and hope things don't break. It's a gamble.

If you plan on lifting or modifying the vehicle, check your countries
laws. Down South here we have the Magnusson Moss Warranty Act. Dunno
if there is a similar one for Canada.

I got the money out of my 7-70 powertrain. Mostly new seals on the
transmission, transfer case, CV boots, valve cover, etc. If it broke
I had them fix it, no matter how small. :)

Of course it's well past the waranty end now so it's all on me. Good
thing I do most of my own work.


--
-- DougW -- 93 ZJ 4.0 http://revbeergoggles.com
HESCO Supercharger - 300W IASCA Stereo - Edelbrock IAS Shocks
Gibson Exhaust - rear DCpower - custom gauge install - Stillen Rotors
Banks Header - and BEER, in the fridge!

Lon

Depending on where you live, you might or might not have enough
competition to keep the dealers a bit more realistic. Yours is well to
the wrong end of the credibility scale.

Local dealers [silicon valley] are charging 24.95 for normal oil +
filter changes and will make that synth or synth blend for a few bucks
more. For the diesels using 11 quarts of oil, both seem to be charging
$59.95 Of course there are oil change places on every street corner
and they charge about the same as a dealer...

There are several service plans available for new Jeeps, backed by
Daimler Chrysler. Some such as "Maximum Care" even cover the electronic
gewgaws that cost an arm and a leg to service. The service departments
at the couple local dealers seem to like those for typical owners as
they claim it cuts down on hassles of covered versus non-covered
repairs. Obviously they are profitable for the company. You would
spend less overall if you just paid for repairs using the typical dealer
discount adverts...unless you had a repair over the cost of the extended
service plan. They are betting your vehicle has average or better
reliability--you are betting it doesn't. Like the Vegas casinos, they
play the numbers with a house edge.

The Gold Plus is not one of the names of the DC backed plans... avoid
third party warranties like the plague.


budman@suckeggs.ca proclaimed:

> Just bought a new Liberty CRD and of course I got the usual sales pitch from the
> business 'manager' about the virtues of an extended warranty, and especially in
> this case for a diesel. He's trying to sell me the Gold Plus plan because it
> provides 10 free oil changes over the life of the plan. He told me that he's
> sure that Chrysler "made a mistake" on this, because oil changes on a diesel are
> worth $125.00 a pop.
>
> Would anyone care to verify or dispute this? And while we're at it, if you were
> buying a new Liberty CRD, which extended warranty would be most appropriate for
> the long haul?
>
> Thanx folks

Lon

Depending on where you live, you might or might not have enough
competition to keep the dealers a bit more realistic. Yours is well to
the wrong end of the credibility scale.

Local dealers [silicon valley] are charging 24.95 for normal oil +
filter changes and will make that synth or synth blend for a few bucks
more. For the diesels using 11 quarts of oil, both seem to be charging
$59.95 Of course there are oil change places on every street corner
and they charge about the same as a dealer...

There are several service plans available for new Jeeps, backed by
Daimler Chrysler. Some such as "Maximum Care" even cover the electronic
gewgaws that cost an arm and a leg to service. The service departments
at the couple local dealers seem to like those for typical owners as
they claim it cuts down on hassles of covered versus non-covered
repairs. Obviously they are profitable for the company. You would
spend less overall if you just paid for repairs using the typical dealer
discount adverts...unless you had a repair over the cost of the extended
service plan. They are betting your vehicle has average or better
reliability--you are betting it doesn't. Like the Vegas casinos, they
play the numbers with a house edge.

The Gold Plus is not one of the names of the DC backed plans... avoid
third party warranties like the plague.


budman@suckeggs.ca proclaimed:

> Just bought a new Liberty CRD and of course I got the usual sales pitch from the
> business 'manager' about the virtues of an extended warranty, and especially in
> this case for a diesel. He's trying to sell me the Gold Plus plan because it
> provides 10 free oil changes over the life of the plan. He told me that he's
> sure that Chrysler "made a mistake" on this, because oil changes on a diesel are
> worth $125.00 a pop.
>
> Would anyone care to verify or dispute this? And while we're at it, if you were
> buying a new Liberty CRD, which extended warranty would be most appropriate for
> the long haul?
>
> Thanx folks

Lon

Depending on where you live, you might or might not have enough
competition to keep the dealers a bit more realistic. Yours is well to
the wrong end of the credibility scale.

Local dealers [silicon valley] are charging 24.95 for normal oil +
filter changes and will make that synth or synth blend for a few bucks
more. For the diesels using 11 quarts of oil, both seem to be charging
$59.95 Of course there are oil change places on every street corner
and they charge about the same as a dealer...

There are several service plans available for new Jeeps, backed by
Daimler Chrysler. Some such as "Maximum Care" even cover the electronic
gewgaws that cost an arm and a leg to service. The service departments
at the couple local dealers seem to like those for typical owners as
they claim it cuts down on hassles of covered versus non-covered
repairs. Obviously they are profitable for the company. You would
spend less overall if you just paid for repairs using the typical dealer
discount adverts...unless you had a repair over the cost of the extended
service plan. They are betting your vehicle has average or better
reliability--you are betting it doesn't. Like the Vegas casinos, they
play the numbers with a house edge.

The Gold Plus is not one of the names of the DC backed plans... avoid
third party warranties like the plague.


budman@suckeggs.ca proclaimed:

> Just bought a new Liberty CRD and of course I got the usual sales pitch from the
> business 'manager' about the virtues of an extended warranty, and especially in
> this case for a diesel. He's trying to sell me the Gold Plus plan because it
> provides 10 free oil changes over the life of the plan. He told me that he's
> sure that Chrysler "made a mistake" on this, because oil changes on a diesel are
> worth $125.00 a pop.
>
> Would anyone care to verify or dispute this? And while we're at it, if you were
> buying a new Liberty CRD, which extended warranty would be most appropriate for
> the long haul?
>
> Thanx folks