Like a gas cloths dyer. I have been guilty of.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Yea.. it's spam.
>
> But it's also a darn good time to remind folks
> that running a vehicle in a garage without proper
> ventalation is STUPID and can KILL you.
>
> The same goes with fuels and solvents in a garage.
> Especially if you have a gas hot water heater that
> hasn't been raised on a 18" stand.
> (which for the U.S. is code in remodels and new
> construction in all States)
>
> But back to the garage.
>
> http://www.goodyearbeltsandhose.com/...aragehose.html
> http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/TTW120.html
> http://oemproamtools.com/garage_exhaust_hose.htm
> http://www.nsgv.com/
> http://airhosereels.com/exhosac.html
>
> For those of you with BIG garages.
> http://www.texaselec.com/VehicleExha...ustSystems.htm
>
> The basics:
>
> 1) a gas-tight connection to the vehicles exhaust pipe(s)
> 2) a heat resistant hose that will not melt or catch fire.
> 3) an exterior dump that does not allow fumes to be drawn
> back into the house.
> 4) a fresh air source away from the exterior dump port.
>
> The best systems use a pump to pull the fumes away. This solves
> the issue with leaky hoses and also creates a negative pressure
> environment that helps pull fresh air in.
>
> Remember that some mufflers have a weep hole that will allow
> exhaust fumes out, and all vehicles leak exhaust to some extent.
> It's always better to work with full ventilation and have a CO
> sensor in the garage.
> http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5010.html
>
> Also... Check your furnaces and fireplaces. Get them cleaned
> and adjusted properly so you save money.
>
> And don't forget to wash behind your ears. ;)
>
> --
> Doug(I need a beer)W

 

Like a gas cloths dyer. I have been guilty of.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Yea.. it's spam.
>
> But it's also a darn good time to remind folks
> that running a vehicle in a garage without proper
> ventalation is STUPID and can KILL you.
>
> The same goes with fuels and solvents in a garage.
> Especially if you have a gas hot water heater that
> hasn't been raised on a 18" stand.
> (which for the U.S. is code in remodels and new
> construction in all States)
>
> But back to the garage.
>
> http://www.goodyearbeltsandhose.com/...aragehose.html
> http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/TTW120.html
> http://oemproamtools.com/garage_exhaust_hose.htm
> http://www.nsgv.com/
> http://airhosereels.com/exhosac.html
>
> For those of you with BIG garages.
> http://www.texaselec.com/VehicleExha...ustSystems.htm
>
> The basics:
>
> 1) a gas-tight connection to the vehicles exhaust pipe(s)
> 2) a heat resistant hose that will not melt or catch fire.
> 3) an exterior dump that does not allow fumes to be drawn
> back into the house.
> 4) a fresh air source away from the exterior dump port.
>
> The best systems use a pump to pull the fumes away. This solves
> the issue with leaky hoses and also creates a negative pressure
> environment that helps pull fresh air in.
>
> Remember that some mufflers have a weep hole that will allow
> exhaust fumes out, and all vehicles leak exhaust to some extent.
> It's always better to work with full ventilation and have a CO
> sensor in the garage.
> http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5010.html
>
> Also... Check your furnaces and fireplaces. Get them cleaned
> and adjusted properly so you save money.
>
> And don't forget to wash behind your ears. ;)
>
> --
> Doug(I need a beer)W

 

Like a gas cloths dyer. I have been guilty of.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

DougW wrote:
>
> Yea.. it's spam.
>
> But it's also a darn good time to remind folks
> that running a vehicle in a garage without proper
> ventalation is STUPID and can KILL you.
>
> The same goes with fuels and solvents in a garage.
> Especially if you have a gas hot water heater that
> hasn't been raised on a 18" stand.
> (which for the U.S. is code in remodels and new
> construction in all States)
>
> But back to the garage.
>
> http://www.goodyearbeltsandhose.com/...aragehose.html
> http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/TTW120.html
> http://oemproamtools.com/garage_exhaust_hose.htm
> http://www.nsgv.com/
> http://airhosereels.com/exhosac.html
>
> For those of you with BIG garages.
> http://www.texaselec.com/VehicleExha...ustSystems.htm
>
> The basics:
>
> 1) a gas-tight connection to the vehicles exhaust pipe(s)
> 2) a heat resistant hose that will not melt or catch fire.
> 3) an exterior dump that does not allow fumes to be drawn
> back into the house.
> 4) a fresh air source away from the exterior dump port.
>
> The best systems use a pump to pull the fumes away. This solves
> the issue with leaky hoses and also creates a negative pressure
> environment that helps pull fresh air in.
>
> Remember that some mufflers have a weep hole that will allow
> exhaust fumes out, and all vehicles leak exhaust to some extent.
> It's always better to work with full ventilation and have a CO
> sensor in the garage.
> http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5010.html
>
> Also... Check your furnaces and fireplaces. Get them cleaned
> and adjusted properly so you save money.
>
> And don't forget to wash behind your ears. ;)
>
> --
> Doug(I need a beer)W

 

BUT, the Hemlock society no longer recommends the old running car in a
closed garage as an exit strategy, they say that because modern cars run
so clean that doesn't work anymore.

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Like a gas cloths dyer. I have been guilty of.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DougW wrote:
>
>>Yea.. it's spam.
>>
>>But it's also a darn good time to remind folks
>>that running a vehicle in a garage without proper
>>ventalation is STUPID and can KILL you.
>>
>>The same goes with fuels and solvents in a garage.
>>Especially if you have a gas hot water heater that
>>hasn't been raised on a 18" stand.
>>(which for the U.S. is code in remodels and new
>>construction in all States)
>>
>>But back to the garage.
>>
>>http://www.goodyearbeltsandhose.com/...aragehose.html
>>http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/TTW120.html
>>http://oemproamtools.com/garage_exhaust_hose.htm
>>http://www.nsgv.com/
>>http://airhosereels.com/exhosac.html
>>
>>For those of you with BIG garages.
>>http://www.texaselec.com/VehicleExha...ustSystems.htm
>>
>>The basics:
>>
>>1) a gas-tight connection to the vehicles exhaust pipe(s)
>>2) a heat resistant hose that will not melt or catch fire.
>>3) an exterior dump that does not allow fumes to be drawn
>> back into the house.
>>4) a fresh air source away from the exterior dump port.
>>
>>The best systems use a pump to pull the fumes away. This solves
>>the issue with leaky hoses and also creates a negative pressure
>>environment that helps pull fresh air in.
>>
>>Remember that some mufflers have a weep hole that will allow
>>exhaust fumes out, and all vehicles leak exhaust to some extent.
>>It's always better to work with full ventilation and have a CO
>>sensor in the garage.
>>http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5010.html
>>
>>Also... Check your furnaces and fireplaces. Get them cleaned
>>and adjusted properly so you save money.
>>
>>And don't forget to wash behind your ears. ;)
>>
>>--
>>Doug(I need a beer)W

 

BUT, the Hemlock society no longer recommends the old running car in a
closed garage as an exit strategy, they say that because modern cars run
so clean that doesn't work anymore.

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Like a gas cloths dyer. I have been guilty of.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DougW wrote:
>
>>Yea.. it's spam.
>>
>>But it's also a darn good time to remind folks
>>that running a vehicle in a garage without proper
>>ventalation is STUPID and can KILL you.
>>
>>The same goes with fuels and solvents in a garage.
>>Especially if you have a gas hot water heater that
>>hasn't been raised on a 18" stand.
>>(which for the U.S. is code in remodels and new
>>construction in all States)
>>
>>But back to the garage.
>>
>>http://www.goodyearbeltsandhose.com/...aragehose.html
>>http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/TTW120.html
>>http://oemproamtools.com/garage_exhaust_hose.htm
>>http://www.nsgv.com/
>>http://airhosereels.com/exhosac.html
>>
>>For those of you with BIG garages.
>>http://www.texaselec.com/VehicleExha...ustSystems.htm
>>
>>The basics:
>>
>>1) a gas-tight connection to the vehicles exhaust pipe(s)
>>2) a heat resistant hose that will not melt or catch fire.
>>3) an exterior dump that does not allow fumes to be drawn
>> back into the house.
>>4) a fresh air source away from the exterior dump port.
>>
>>The best systems use a pump to pull the fumes away. This solves
>>the issue with leaky hoses and also creates a negative pressure
>>environment that helps pull fresh air in.
>>
>>Remember that some mufflers have a weep hole that will allow
>>exhaust fumes out, and all vehicles leak exhaust to some extent.
>>It's always better to work with full ventilation and have a CO
>>sensor in the garage.
>>http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5010.html
>>
>>Also... Check your furnaces and fireplaces. Get them cleaned
>>and adjusted properly so you save money.
>>
>>And don't forget to wash behind your ears. ;)
>>
>>--
>>Doug(I need a beer)W

 

BUT, the Hemlock society no longer recommends the old running car in a
closed garage as an exit strategy, they say that because modern cars run
so clean that doesn't work anymore.

Jeff DeWitt

L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Like a gas cloths dyer. I have been guilty of.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> DougW wrote:
>
>>Yea.. it's spam.
>>
>>But it's also a darn good time to remind folks
>>that running a vehicle in a garage without proper
>>ventalation is STUPID and can KILL you.
>>
>>The same goes with fuels and solvents in a garage.
>>Especially if you have a gas hot water heater that
>>hasn't been raised on a 18" stand.
>>(which for the U.S. is code in remodels and new
>>construction in all States)
>>
>>But back to the garage.
>>
>>http://www.goodyearbeltsandhose.com/...aragehose.html
>>http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/TTW120.html
>>http://oemproamtools.com/garage_exhaust_hose.htm
>>http://www.nsgv.com/
>>http://airhosereels.com/exhosac.html
>>
>>For those of you with BIG garages.
>>http://www.texaselec.com/VehicleExha...ustSystems.htm
>>
>>The basics:
>>
>>1) a gas-tight connection to the vehicles exhaust pipe(s)
>>2) a heat resistant hose that will not melt or catch fire.
>>3) an exterior dump that does not allow fumes to be drawn
>> back into the house.
>>4) a fresh air source away from the exterior dump port.
>>
>>The best systems use a pump to pull the fumes away. This solves
>>the issue with leaky hoses and also creates a negative pressure
>>environment that helps pull fresh air in.
>>
>>Remember that some mufflers have a weep hole that will allow
>>exhaust fumes out, and all vehicles leak exhaust to some extent.
>>It's always better to work with full ventilation and have a CO
>>sensor in the garage.
>>http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5010.html
>>
>>Also... Check your furnaces and fireplaces. Get them cleaned
>>and adjusted properly so you save money.
>>
>>And don't forget to wash behind your ears. ;)
>>
>>--
>>Doug(I need a beer)W

 

That's what I hear. Carbon Monoxide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide
I'm reminded of an old movie with Jimmy Stewart and Betty Davis,
called "Right of Way".
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> BUT, the Hemlock society no longer recommends the old running car in a
> closed garage as an exit strategy, they say that because modern cars run
> so clean that doesn't work anymore.
>
> Jeff DeWitt

 

That's what I hear. Carbon Monoxide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide
I'm reminded of an old movie with Jimmy Stewart and Betty Davis,
called "Right of Way".
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> BUT, the Hemlock society no longer recommends the old running car in a
> closed garage as an exit strategy, they say that because modern cars run
> so clean that doesn't work anymore.
>
> Jeff DeWitt

 

That's what I hear. Carbon Monoxide:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide
I'm reminded of an old movie with Jimmy Stewart and Betty Davis,
called "Right of Way".
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:
>
> BUT, the Hemlock society no longer recommends the old running car in a
> closed garage as an exit strategy, they say that because modern cars run
> so clean that doesn't work anymore.
>
> Jeff DeWitt

 

"Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:QVx0h.23$HD6.19@tornado.southeast.rr.com...
> BUT, the Hemlock society no longer recommends the old running car in a
> closed garage as an exit strategy, they say that because modern cars run
> so clean that doesn't work anymore.
>
> Jeff DeWitt

I hope that was a joke, although some will not read it as such.

I read, but don't post, because, while we have two Jeeps, I am mostly here
to learn, but this caught my attention.

It does not make any difference how "clean" a car runs. It is the
exhaustion of usable oxygen in the closed garage that causes death. Maybe
there is less carbon monoxide (which I doubt) but no matter how "clean" the
car is, you will still die. Maybe ten minutes longer, but the end will be
the same.

The Hemlock Society has a new name...

http://www.nrlc.org/news/2003/NRL08/...or_an_imag.htm

The internet is wonderful but leads young people, who believe all of the
"urban legends" that they hear, astray. I would not want to plant an urban
legend (even in jest) and find, later, that someone tried it, and died.


>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
>> Like a gas cloths dyer. I have been guilty of.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> DougW wrote:
>>
>>>Yea.. it's spam.
>>>
>>>But it's also a darn good time to remind folks
>>>that running a vehicle in a garage without proper
>>>ventalation is STUPID and can KILL you.
>>>
>>>The same goes with fuels and solvents in a garage.
>>>Especially if you have a gas hot water heater that
>>>hasn't been raised on a 18" stand.
>>>(which for the U.S. is code in remodels and new
>>>construction in all States)
>>>
>>>But back to the garage.
>>>
>>>http://www.goodyearbeltsandhose.com/...aragehose.html
>>>http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/TTW120.html
>>>http://oemproamtools.com/garage_exhaust_hose.htm
>>>http://www.nsgv.com/
>>>http://airhosereels.com/exhosac.html
>>>
>>>For those of you with BIG garages.
>>>http://www.texaselec.com/VehicleExha...ustSystems.htm
>>>
>>>The basics:
>>>
>>>1) a gas-tight connection to the vehicles exhaust pipe(s)
>>>2) a heat resistant hose that will not melt or catch fire.
>>>3) an exterior dump that does not allow fumes to be drawn
>>> back into the house.
>>>4) a fresh air source away from the exterior dump port.
>>>
>>>The best systems use a pump to pull the fumes away. This solves
>>>the issue with leaky hoses and also creates a negative pressure
>>>environment that helps pull fresh air in.
>>>
>>>Remember that some mufflers have a weep hole that will allow
>>>exhaust fumes out, and all vehicles leak exhaust to some extent.
>>>It's always better to work with full ventilation and have a CO
>>>sensor in the garage.
>>>http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/pubs/5010.html
>>>
>>>Also... Check your furnaces and fireplaces. Get them cleaned
>>>and adjusted properly so you save money.
>>>
>>>And don't forget to wash behind your ears. ;)
>>>
>>>--
>>>Doug(I need a beer)W