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twaldron 12-29-2003 07:54 PM

Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
 
Yes, they do. I've got BFG ATs and they suck in the mud.

Jim Boucher wrote:

> Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33" BFG
> A/T's).
> We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up and
> just spun.
> It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just couldn't get
> any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my 89YJ,
> Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> The right tire goes a long way.
> (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 12-29-2003 07:54 PM

Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
 
Yes, they do. I've got BFG ATs and they suck in the mud.

Jim Boucher wrote:

> Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33" BFG
> A/T's).
> We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up and
> just spun.
> It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just couldn't get
> any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my 89YJ,
> Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> The right tire goes a long way.
> (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 12-29-2003 07:54 PM

Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
 
Yes, they do. I've got BFG ATs and they suck in the mud.

Jim Boucher wrote:

> Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33" BFG
> A/T's).
> We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up and
> just spun.
> It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just couldn't get
> any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my 89YJ,
> Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> The right tire goes a long way.
> (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> Jim
>
> 88 Grand Wagoneer
> 89 Wrangler
> 00 Grand Cherokee


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 12-29-2003 08:00 PM

Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
 
Love the auto!! My last 3 Wranglers were all autos.

JimG wrote:

> I have heard some praise on autos (even from a few in our group), but I have
> never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
> makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like an
> auto!


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 12-29-2003 08:00 PM

Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
 
Love the auto!! My last 3 Wranglers were all autos.

JimG wrote:

> I have heard some praise on autos (even from a few in our group), but I have
> never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
> makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like an
> auto!


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________


twaldron 12-29-2003 08:00 PM

Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
 
Love the auto!! My last 3 Wranglers were all autos.

JimG wrote:

> I have heard some praise on autos (even from a few in our group), but I have
> never tried it myself. It's just something about being an SportUV that
> makes me want a straight. With my 4 to 1 and 4.56 gears it's almost like an
> auto!


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon
01 XJ Sport

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting
to me, because as we know, there are known knowns, there are things
we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to
say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also
unknown unknowns — the ones we don't know we don't know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld (2003)

"I think that gay marriage is something that should be between a man and
a woman."
-- Arnold Schwarzenegger (2003)

__________________________________________________ _________


KJ 12-29-2003 08:16 PM

Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
 
Perhaps I should also add that my '90 YJ also has an auto with the great
Weber carb. atop a 4.2L; a great combo. for this areas type of wheelin'.

"KJ" <here@there.net> wrote in message
news:xk3Ib.90715$Dt6.2425728@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
> > The right tire goes a long way.

>
> Absolutely, and I can attest to that!
>
> I can go much farther in 2WD with my 33" BFG MT's than in 4WD with my
> previous 31" BFG Trails the previous owner had installed. A good tire for
> the namesake, but out in sand and mud (Florida), the MT's really shine.
>
> As always, the right tool for the job is exactly that!
>
>
> "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> > Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33"

BFG
> > A/T's).
> > We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up

> and
> > just spun.
> > It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just

> couldn't get
> > any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> > What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my

> 89YJ,
> > Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> > The right tire goes a long way.
> > (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> > Jim
> >
> > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > 89 Wrangler
> > 00 Grand Cherokee
> >

>
>
>




KJ 12-29-2003 08:16 PM

Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
 
Perhaps I should also add that my '90 YJ also has an auto with the great
Weber carb. atop a 4.2L; a great combo. for this areas type of wheelin'.

"KJ" <here@there.net> wrote in message
news:xk3Ib.90715$Dt6.2425728@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
> > The right tire goes a long way.

>
> Absolutely, and I can attest to that!
>
> I can go much farther in 2WD with my 33" BFG MT's than in 4WD with my
> previous 31" BFG Trails the previous owner had installed. A good tire for
> the namesake, but out in sand and mud (Florida), the MT's really shine.
>
> As always, the right tool for the job is exactly that!
>
>
> "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> > Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33"

BFG
> > A/T's).
> > We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up

> and
> > just spun.
> > It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just

> couldn't get
> > any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> > What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my

> 89YJ,
> > Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> > The right tire goes a long way.
> > (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> > Jim
> >
> > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > 89 Wrangler
> > 00 Grand Cherokee
> >

>
>
>




KJ 12-29-2003 08:16 PM

Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
 
Perhaps I should also add that my '90 YJ also has an auto with the great
Weber carb. atop a 4.2L; a great combo. for this areas type of wheelin'.

"KJ" <here@there.net> wrote in message
news:xk3Ib.90715$Dt6.2425728@twister.tampabay.rr.c om...
> > The right tire goes a long way.

>
> Absolutely, and I can attest to that!
>
> I can go much farther in 2WD with my 33" BFG MT's than in 4WD with my
> previous 31" BFG Trails the previous owner had installed. A good tire for
> the namesake, but out in sand and mud (Florida), the MT's really shine.
>
> As always, the right tool for the job is exactly that!
>
>
> "Jim Boucher" <jianryla@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20031229174141.29815.00002493@mb-m21.aol.com...
> > Went wheelin' the other night in my buddy's Rubicon (4" lift with 33"

BFG
> > A/T's).
> > We ventured a little too far into the Louisiana clay. His tires caked up

> and
> > just spun.
> > It sure would be nice if the lockers worked in high range; he just

> couldn't get
> > any mud-slinging speed in low range.
> > What really pissed him off is that I pulled him out effortlessly with my

> 89YJ,
> > Peugot Tranny, 3.07 Open diff., 2.72 LR, with 31" BFG M/T's.
> > The right tire goes a long way.
> > (He wouldn't let me take any pictures!)
> > Jim
> >
> > 88 Grand Wagoneer
> > 89 Wrangler
> > 00 Grand Cherokee
> >

>
>
>




Nathan Collier 12-29-2003 08:19 PM

Re: Even Rubicons get stuck
 
"JimG" <jimg@cj7_2muchspam.com> wrote in message
news:dy3Ib.32368$Bo3.19709@news01.roc.ny...
> I have heard some praise on autos (even from a few in our group), but I

have
> never tried it myself.


before you buy _any_ rubicon i highly recommend you try uwharrie sometime
with an auto. the difference will amaze you. surely an auto isnt for
everyone, but for anyone serious about rock crawling (and the rubicon is
supposed to be a rock crawler) its definately the way to go.

--
Nathan W. Collier
http://7SlotGrille.com
http://UtilityOffRoad.com





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