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griffin 01-05-2005 12:43 PM

Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his sig
something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this about 6
years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a false etymology.
Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the origin and found the most
comprehensive site I've ever seen on the word "Jeep". It was a very
interesting read and definitely one for Bill's link-list.

http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm

That guy really did his homework! Those other two "Jeeps" (Bantam and Ford)
look pretty cool. I wonder if anyone (Bill?) has any pics or info of anyone
owning one of these and using it on the trail. I'm too lazy to search for it
myself, but maybe someone else can dig something up.

Cheers.



Preston Kemp 01-05-2005 01:37 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
griffin wrote:

> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his
> sig something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this
> about 6 years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a
> false etymology. Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the
> origin and found the most comprehensive site I've ever seen on the
> word "Jeep". It was a very interesting read and definitely one for
> Bill's link-list.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>
> That guy really did his homework!


I'm not convinced. He may have done his homework, but he completely
fails to mention that the 'GP' in question has nothing to do with
'General Purpose', but is the internal model designation used by Ford
as stated in Twaldron's sig.

There is a webpage somewhere with a scan of an old document that
clearly shows the Willys designed 4x4s built by Ford under license were
designated GP.

--
Preston.

http://www.muddystuff.co.uk
Off-road classifieds


Preston Kemp 01-05-2005 01:37 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
griffin wrote:

> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his
> sig something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this
> about 6 years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a
> false etymology. Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the
> origin and found the most comprehensive site I've ever seen on the
> word "Jeep". It was a very interesting read and definitely one for
> Bill's link-list.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>
> That guy really did his homework!


I'm not convinced. He may have done his homework, but he completely
fails to mention that the 'GP' in question has nothing to do with
'General Purpose', but is the internal model designation used by Ford
as stated in Twaldron's sig.

There is a webpage somewhere with a scan of an old document that
clearly shows the Willys designed 4x4s built by Ford under license were
designated GP.

--
Preston.

http://www.muddystuff.co.uk
Off-road classifieds


Preston Kemp 01-05-2005 01:37 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
griffin wrote:

> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his
> sig something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this
> about 6 years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a
> false etymology. Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the
> origin and found the most comprehensive site I've ever seen on the
> word "Jeep". It was a very interesting read and definitely one for
> Bill's link-list.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>
> That guy really did his homework!


I'm not convinced. He may have done his homework, but he completely
fails to mention that the 'GP' in question has nothing to do with
'General Purpose', but is the internal model designation used by Ford
as stated in Twaldron's sig.

There is a webpage somewhere with a scan of an old document that
clearly shows the Willys designed 4x4s built by Ford under license were
designated GP.

--
Preston.

http://www.muddystuff.co.uk
Off-road classifieds


Jeff Strickland 01-05-2005 04:05 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
I don't know any of that, but GP means general purpose. In Army lingo, the
Jeep was called, Vehicle, General Purpose, or GP, pronounced jeep.




"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:fHVCd.700535$Pl.536328@pd7tw1no...
> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his sig
> something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this about 6
> years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a false etymology.
> Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the origin and found the most
> comprehensive site I've ever seen on the word "Jeep". It was a very
> interesting read and definitely one for Bill's link-list.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>
> That guy really did his homework! Those other two "Jeeps" (Bantam and

Ford)
> look pretty cool. I wonder if anyone (Bill?) has any pics or info of

anyone
> owning one of these and using it on the trail. I'm too lazy to search for

it
> myself, but maybe someone else can dig something up.
>
> Cheers.
>
>




Jeff Strickland 01-05-2005 04:05 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
I don't know any of that, but GP means general purpose. In Army lingo, the
Jeep was called, Vehicle, General Purpose, or GP, pronounced jeep.




"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:fHVCd.700535$Pl.536328@pd7tw1no...
> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his sig
> something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this about 6
> years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a false etymology.
> Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the origin and found the most
> comprehensive site I've ever seen on the word "Jeep". It was a very
> interesting read and definitely one for Bill's link-list.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>
> That guy really did his homework! Those other two "Jeeps" (Bantam and

Ford)
> look pretty cool. I wonder if anyone (Bill?) has any pics or info of

anyone
> owning one of these and using it on the trail. I'm too lazy to search for

it
> myself, but maybe someone else can dig something up.
>
> Cheers.
>
>




Jeff Strickland 01-05-2005 04:05 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
I don't know any of that, but GP means general purpose. In Army lingo, the
Jeep was called, Vehicle, General Purpose, or GP, pronounced jeep.




"griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:fHVCd.700535$Pl.536328@pd7tw1no...
> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his sig
> something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this about 6
> years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a false etymology.
> Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the origin and found the most
> comprehensive site I've ever seen on the word "Jeep". It was a very
> interesting read and definitely one for Bill's link-list.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>
> That guy really did his homework! Those other two "Jeeps" (Bantam and

Ford)
> look pretty cool. I wonder if anyone (Bill?) has any pics or info of

anyone
> owning one of these and using it on the trail. I'm too lazy to search for

it
> myself, but maybe someone else can dig something up.
>
> Cheers.
>
>




L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-05-2005 04:12 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
I'm giving the GIs credit for the naming it a Jeep, from it's 80"
wheel separation, nomenclature: GP, just like their Bell UH-1 is the
Huey or the HMMWV a Humvee. And as it's GI dirver called it for the
Washington Daily News, during the demonstration ride. Hillyer's article
appeared in the newspaper on February 20,1941, with a photo caption that
read, "Jeep Creeps Up Capitol Steps."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

griffin wrote:
>
> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his sig
> something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this about 6
> years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a false etymology.
> Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the origin and found the most
> comprehensive site I've ever seen on the word "Jeep". It was a very
> interesting read and definitely one for Bill's link-list.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>
> That guy really did his homework! Those other two "Jeeps" (Bantam and Ford)
> look pretty cool. I wonder if anyone (Bill?) has any pics or info of anyone
> owning one of these and using it on the trail. I'm too lazy to search for it
> myself, but maybe someone else can dig something up.
>
> Cheers.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-05-2005 04:12 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
I'm giving the GIs credit for the naming it a Jeep, from it's 80"
wheel separation, nomenclature: GP, just like their Bell UH-1 is the
Huey or the HMMWV a Humvee. And as it's GI dirver called it for the
Washington Daily News, during the demonstration ride. Hillyer's article
appeared in the newspaper on February 20,1941, with a photo caption that
read, "Jeep Creeps Up Capitol Steps."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

griffin wrote:
>
> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his sig
> something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this about 6
> years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a false etymology.
> Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the origin and found the most
> comprehensive site I've ever seen on the word "Jeep". It was a very
> interesting read and definitely one for Bill's link-list.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>
> That guy really did his homework! Those other two "Jeeps" (Bantam and Ford)
> look pretty cool. I wonder if anyone (Bill?) has any pics or info of anyone
> owning one of these and using it on the trail. I'm too lazy to search for it
> myself, but maybe someone else can dig something up.
>
> Cheers.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-05-2005 04:12 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
I'm giving the GIs credit for the naming it a Jeep, from it's 80"
wheel separation, nomenclature: GP, just like their Bell UH-1 is the
Huey or the HMMWV a Humvee. And as it's GI dirver called it for the
Washington Daily News, during the demonstration ride. Hillyer's article
appeared in the newspaper on February 20,1941, with a photo caption that
read, "Jeep Creeps Up Capitol Steps."
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

griffin wrote:
>
> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his sig
> something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this about 6
> years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a false etymology.
> Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the origin and found the most
> comprehensive site I've ever seen on the word "Jeep". It was a very
> interesting read and definitely one for Bill's link-list.
>
> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>
> That guy really did his homework! Those other two "Jeeps" (Bantam and Ford)
> look pretty cool. I wonder if anyone (Bill?) has any pics or info of anyone
> owning one of these and using it on the trail. I'm too lazy to search for it
> myself, but maybe someone else can dig something up.
>
> Cheers.


Lee Ayrton 01-05-2005 05:15 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 

Erm, well... No. The "GP" as it applied to certain WWII 1/4 ton scout
cars was Ford's designation for the vehicle that they built, not the
Army's. The "G" stood for "Government contract" the "P" for 80"
wheelbase and, in the GPW, the "W" stood for Willys-designed powerplant.
The generic term "jeep" was in use as military slang for certain vehicles
long before Bantam/Willys/Ford's creation, and long before Seagar's
Eugene.

From a dictionary published in 1944 (making it a period cite), with a
special section on "War Words" (notice that it covers a range of
vehicles):

Jeep n. (slang) nickname for the small 1/2 ton and the smaller 1/4 ton
command-reconnaissance car now replacing to a great extent the functions
of the cavalry. Some army outfits distinguish between the two sizes by
calling the smaller vehicles "peeps" and the larger ones are then called
"jeeps." Also called jeep buggy and blitz buggy. See PEEP and SCOUT CAR.

Peep n. nickname for the small 1/4 ton scout or reconnaissance military
motor vehicle which holds and can be lifted by four men, who carry rifles
and a machine gun. It covers rough ground rapidly and has a speed of
sixty miles per hour on good roads. Also called bantam, midget, or son of
a jeep. See JEEP and SCOUT CAR.

Scout car n. a small, light, partially armored auto -- with great
cross-country mobility limited only by unfavorable terrain -- employed by
cavalry for transporting men and weapons and for reconnaissance and
patrol; it carries five men, four machine guns and a radio sending and
receiving set. See JEEP and PEEP.

Sea jeep n. (slang) popular nickname for U.S. Army amphibious armored
motor vehicle -- powered by a gasoline engine, carrying a crew of eight,
and capable of operations on land and in water -- being used especially to
force river crossings. Official name: Aqua Cheetah.


The cover of my reprint copy of "TM9-803 War Department Technical Manual"
(February 1944) says "1/4-ton 4x4 Truck (Willys-Overland Model MB and Ford
Model GPW)", not General Purpose. It _does_ say:

2. DESCRIPTION.
a. Type. This vehicle is a general purpose, personnel, or cargo
carrier especially adaptable for reconnaisance or command, and is
designated as 1/4-ton 4x4 Truck. [...]

I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
trawling with his sig.



On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I don't know any of that, but GP means general purpose. In Army lingo,
> the Jeep was called, Vehicle, General Purpose, or GP, pronounced jeep.
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:fHVCd.700535$Pl.536328@pd7tw1no...
>> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his sig
>> something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this about 6
>> years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a false etymology.
>> Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the origin and found the most
>> comprehensive site I've ever seen on the word "Jeep". It was a very
>> interesting read and definitely one for Bill's link-list.
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>>
>> That guy really did his homework! Those other two "Jeeps" (Bantam and
>> Ford) look pretty cool. I wonder if anyone (Bill?) has any pics or info
>> of anyone owning one of these and using it on the trail. I'm too lazy
>> to search for it myself, but maybe someone else can dig something up.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>

>
>
>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Lee Ayrton 01-05-2005 05:15 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 

Erm, well... No. The "GP" as it applied to certain WWII 1/4 ton scout
cars was Ford's designation for the vehicle that they built, not the
Army's. The "G" stood for "Government contract" the "P" for 80"
wheelbase and, in the GPW, the "W" stood for Willys-designed powerplant.
The generic term "jeep" was in use as military slang for certain vehicles
long before Bantam/Willys/Ford's creation, and long before Seagar's
Eugene.

From a dictionary published in 1944 (making it a period cite), with a
special section on "War Words" (notice that it covers a range of
vehicles):

Jeep n. (slang) nickname for the small 1/2 ton and the smaller 1/4 ton
command-reconnaissance car now replacing to a great extent the functions
of the cavalry. Some army outfits distinguish between the two sizes by
calling the smaller vehicles "peeps" and the larger ones are then called
"jeeps." Also called jeep buggy and blitz buggy. See PEEP and SCOUT CAR.

Peep n. nickname for the small 1/4 ton scout or reconnaissance military
motor vehicle which holds and can be lifted by four men, who carry rifles
and a machine gun. It covers rough ground rapidly and has a speed of
sixty miles per hour on good roads. Also called bantam, midget, or son of
a jeep. See JEEP and SCOUT CAR.

Scout car n. a small, light, partially armored auto -- with great
cross-country mobility limited only by unfavorable terrain -- employed by
cavalry for transporting men and weapons and for reconnaissance and
patrol; it carries five men, four machine guns and a radio sending and
receiving set. See JEEP and PEEP.

Sea jeep n. (slang) popular nickname for U.S. Army amphibious armored
motor vehicle -- powered by a gasoline engine, carrying a crew of eight,
and capable of operations on land and in water -- being used especially to
force river crossings. Official name: Aqua Cheetah.


The cover of my reprint copy of "TM9-803 War Department Technical Manual"
(February 1944) says "1/4-ton 4x4 Truck (Willys-Overland Model MB and Ford
Model GPW)", not General Purpose. It _does_ say:

2. DESCRIPTION.
a. Type. This vehicle is a general purpose, personnel, or cargo
carrier especially adaptable for reconnaisance or command, and is
designated as 1/4-ton 4x4 Truck. [...]

I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
trawling with his sig.



On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I don't know any of that, but GP means general purpose. In Army lingo,
> the Jeep was called, Vehicle, General Purpose, or GP, pronounced jeep.
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:fHVCd.700535$Pl.536328@pd7tw1no...
>> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his sig
>> something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this about 6
>> years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a false etymology.
>> Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the origin and found the most
>> comprehensive site I've ever seen on the word "Jeep". It was a very
>> interesting read and definitely one for Bill's link-list.
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>>
>> That guy really did his homework! Those other two "Jeeps" (Bantam and
>> Ford) look pretty cool. I wonder if anyone (Bill?) has any pics or info
>> of anyone owning one of these and using it on the trail. I'm too lazy
>> to search for it myself, but maybe someone else can dig something up.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>

>
>
>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Lee Ayrton 01-05-2005 05:15 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 

Erm, well... No. The "GP" as it applied to certain WWII 1/4 ton scout
cars was Ford's designation for the vehicle that they built, not the
Army's. The "G" stood for "Government contract" the "P" for 80"
wheelbase and, in the GPW, the "W" stood for Willys-designed powerplant.
The generic term "jeep" was in use as military slang for certain vehicles
long before Bantam/Willys/Ford's creation, and long before Seagar's
Eugene.

From a dictionary published in 1944 (making it a period cite), with a
special section on "War Words" (notice that it covers a range of
vehicles):

Jeep n. (slang) nickname for the small 1/2 ton and the smaller 1/4 ton
command-reconnaissance car now replacing to a great extent the functions
of the cavalry. Some army outfits distinguish between the two sizes by
calling the smaller vehicles "peeps" and the larger ones are then called
"jeeps." Also called jeep buggy and blitz buggy. See PEEP and SCOUT CAR.

Peep n. nickname for the small 1/4 ton scout or reconnaissance military
motor vehicle which holds and can be lifted by four men, who carry rifles
and a machine gun. It covers rough ground rapidly and has a speed of
sixty miles per hour on good roads. Also called bantam, midget, or son of
a jeep. See JEEP and SCOUT CAR.

Scout car n. a small, light, partially armored auto -- with great
cross-country mobility limited only by unfavorable terrain -- employed by
cavalry for transporting men and weapons and for reconnaissance and
patrol; it carries five men, four machine guns and a radio sending and
receiving set. See JEEP and PEEP.

Sea jeep n. (slang) popular nickname for U.S. Army amphibious armored
motor vehicle -- powered by a gasoline engine, carrying a crew of eight,
and capable of operations on land and in water -- being used especially to
force river crossings. Official name: Aqua Cheetah.


The cover of my reprint copy of "TM9-803 War Department Technical Manual"
(February 1944) says "1/4-ton 4x4 Truck (Willys-Overland Model MB and Ford
Model GPW)", not General Purpose. It _does_ say:

2. DESCRIPTION.
a. Type. This vehicle is a general purpose, personnel, or cargo
carrier especially adaptable for reconnaisance or command, and is
designated as 1/4-ton 4x4 Truck. [...]

I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
trawling with his sig.



On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> I don't know any of that, but GP means general purpose. In Army lingo,
> the Jeep was called, Vehicle, General Purpose, or GP, pronounced jeep.
>
> "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca> wrote in message
> news:fHVCd.700535$Pl.536328@pd7tw1no...
>> After reading Twaldron's post in the horsepower thread, I saw in his sig
>> something about Jeep standing for "G.P." I did a project on this about 6
>> years ago for a school assignment and found this to be a false etymology.
>> Just to refresh my memory I did a search on the origin and found the most
>> comprehensive site I've ever seen on the word "Jeep". It was a very
>> interesting read and definitely one for Bill's link-list.
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/jeeptoys/history.htm
>>
>> That guy really did his homework! Those other two "Jeeps" (Bantam and
>> Ford) look pretty cool. I wonder if anyone (Bill?) has any pics or info
>> of anyone owning one of these and using it on the trail. I'm too lazy
>> to search for it myself, but maybe someone else can dig something up.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>>

>
>
>


--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


twaldron 01-05-2005 06:31 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Lee Ayrton wrote:
(sNIP'd some good info)
> I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
> trawling with his sig.



Which part? ;)
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron 01-05-2005 06:31 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Lee Ayrton wrote:
(sNIP'd some good info)
> I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
> trawling with his sig.



Which part? ;)
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron 01-05-2005 06:31 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Lee Ayrton wrote:
(sNIP'd some good info)
> I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
> trawling with his sig.



Which part? ;)
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

Wblane 01-07-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
But the US army has been around a lot longer than you Bill. That website made
it pretty clear the jeep name was used for army vehicles before you were even
born, much less in the army.

>I don't know any of that, but GP means general purpose. In Army lingo, the
>Jeep was called, Vehicle, General Purpose, or GP, pronounced jeep.
>



-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

Wblane 01-07-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
But the US army has been around a lot longer than you Bill. That website made
it pretty clear the jeep name was used for army vehicles before you were even
born, much less in the army.

>I don't know any of that, but GP means general purpose. In Army lingo, the
>Jeep was called, Vehicle, General Purpose, or GP, pronounced jeep.
>



-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

Wblane 01-07-2005 04:09 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
But the US army has been around a lot longer than you Bill. That website made
it pretty clear the jeep name was used for army vehicles before you were even
born, much less in the army.

>I don't know any of that, but GP means general purpose. In Army lingo, the
>Jeep was called, Vehicle, General Purpose, or GP, pronounced jeep.
>



-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

Lee Ayrton 01-08-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, twaldron wrote:

> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> (sNIP'd some good info)


>> I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
>> trawling with his sig.

>
>
> Which part? ;)

[snip]


Ummm... The OBVIOUS part? |-)




--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Lee Ayrton 01-08-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, twaldron wrote:

> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> (sNIP'd some good info)


>> I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
>> trawling with his sig.

>
>
> Which part? ;)

[snip]


Ummm... The OBVIOUS part? |-)




--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


Lee Ayrton 01-08-2005 03:26 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, twaldron wrote:

> Lee Ayrton wrote:
> (sNIP'd some good info)


>> I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
>> trawling with his sig.

>
>
> Which part? ;)

[snip]


Ummm... The OBVIOUS part? |-)




--
"I defer to your plainly more vivid memories of topless women with
whips....r"
R. H. Draney recalls AFU in the Good Old Days.


twaldron 01-08-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, twaldron wrote:
>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>> (sNIP'd some good info)

>
>
>>> I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
>>> trawling with his sig.

>>
>>
>>
>> Which part? ;)

>
> [snip]
>
>
> Ummm... The OBVIOUS part? |-)



Well, actually, I think my sig is accurate.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron 01-08-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, twaldron wrote:
>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>> (sNIP'd some good info)

>
>
>>> I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
>>> trawling with his sig.

>>
>>
>>
>> Which part? ;)

>
> [snip]
>
>
> Ummm... The OBVIOUS part? |-)



Well, actually, I think my sig is accurate.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron 01-08-2005 07:01 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Lee Ayrton wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jan 2005, twaldron wrote:
>
>> Lee Ayrton wrote:
>> (sNIP'd some good info)

>
>
>>> I always figured that Twaldron was simply engaging in some playful
>>> trawling with his sig.

>>
>>
>>
>> Which part? ;)

>
> [snip]
>
>
> Ummm... The OBVIOUS part? |-)



Well, actually, I think my sig is accurate.

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-08-2005 07:43 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Somewhere in the news groups etiquette, it says the signature
should be no more than a couple of lines.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Well, actually, I think my sig is accurate.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-08-2005 07:43 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Somewhere in the news groups etiquette, it says the signature
should be no more than a couple of lines.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Well, actually, I think my sig is accurate.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-08-2005 07:43 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Somewhere in the news groups etiquette, it says the signature
should be no more than a couple of lines.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> Well, actually, I think my sig is accurate.
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport


twaldron 01-08-2005 08:14 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
But I keep my posts short...

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Somewhere in the news groups etiquette, it says the signature
> should be no more than a couple of lines.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron 01-08-2005 08:14 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
But I keep my posts short...

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Somewhere in the news groups etiquette, it says the signature
> should be no more than a couple of lines.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron 01-08-2005 08:14 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
But I keep my posts short...

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:

> Somewhere in the news groups etiquette, it says the signature
> should be no more than a couple of lines.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-08-2005 08:17 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
I forgot to say your signature doesn't bother me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> But I keep my posts short...
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-08-2005 08:17 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
I forgot to say your signature doesn't bother me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> But I keep my posts short...
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 01-08-2005 08:17 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
I forgot to say your signature doesn't bother me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> But I keep my posts short...
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport


griffin 01-08-2005 08:19 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Is that the Dave Barry that writes newspaper columns? If so ...that guy
kills me ...man he's funny.

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:fA%Dd.8006$F67.2146@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...

> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry




griffin 01-08-2005 08:19 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Is that the Dave Barry that writes newspaper columns? If so ...that guy
kills me ...man he's funny.

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:fA%Dd.8006$F67.2146@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...

> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry




griffin 01-08-2005 08:19 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Is that the Dave Barry that writes newspaper columns? If so ...that guy
kills me ...man he's funny.

"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:fA%Dd.8006$F67.2146@newssvr12.news.prodigy.co m...

> tw
>
> 71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry




twaldron 01-08-2005 09:49 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Well, glad to hear it. I don't use it hoping to piss people off! :)

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I forgot to say your signature doesn't bother me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>But I keep my posts short...


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron 01-08-2005 09:49 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Well, glad to hear it. I don't use it hoping to piss people off! :)

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I forgot to say your signature doesn't bother me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>But I keep my posts short...


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

twaldron 01-08-2005 09:49 PM

Re: Etymology of Jeep - Best I've seen yet ...
 
Well, glad to hear it. I don't use it hoping to piss people off! :)

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> I forgot to say your signature doesn't bother me.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> twaldron wrote:
>
>>But I keep my posts short...


--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________


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