Error Code 27
07-28-2006, 01:36 PM
#11
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Re: Error Code 27
While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto techs
a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel injectors today
like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel injector cleaning
additives in all grades of most gasolines together with much better fuel
filtration systems.
GTI wrote:
> Lon wrote:
>> GTI proclaimed:
>>
>>> I have gotten this code since I got my crate engine started. I have
>>> checked the wires and all that good stuff. What can I do to correct
>>> this issue?
>>>
>> Check em again. You have a fuel injector that isn't moving when hit
>> with a feed pulse. Or if it is moving the feedback isn't getting back
>> properly. Might be damaged wire in the feedback if the engine is
>> running *smoothly*. Could be a jammed injector but would expect that
>> to cause a bit of roughness much like an injector not opening. If
>> jammed open, you'd know it already.
>
> Yeah it idles rough. I was thinking it could be clogged up.
>
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happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto techs
a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel injectors today
like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel injector cleaning
additives in all grades of most gasolines together with much better fuel
filtration systems.
GTI wrote:
> Lon wrote:
>> GTI proclaimed:
>>
>>> I have gotten this code since I got my crate engine started. I have
>>> checked the wires and all that good stuff. What can I do to correct
>>> this issue?
>>>
>> Check em again. You have a fuel injector that isn't moving when hit
>> with a feed pulse. Or if it is moving the feedback isn't getting back
>> properly. Might be damaged wire in the feedback if the engine is
>> running *smoothly*. Could be a jammed injector but would expect that
>> to cause a bit of roughness much like an injector not opening. If
>> jammed open, you'd know it already.
>
> Yeah it idles rough. I was thinking it could be clogged up.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
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07-28-2006, 01:36 PM
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Re: Error Code 27
While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto techs
a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel injectors today
like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel injector cleaning
additives in all grades of most gasolines together with much better fuel
filtration systems.
GTI wrote:
> Lon wrote:
>> GTI proclaimed:
>>
>>> I have gotten this code since I got my crate engine started. I have
>>> checked the wires and all that good stuff. What can I do to correct
>>> this issue?
>>>
>> Check em again. You have a fuel injector that isn't moving when hit
>> with a feed pulse. Or if it is moving the feedback isn't getting back
>> properly. Might be damaged wire in the feedback if the engine is
>> running *smoothly*. Could be a jammed injector but would expect that
>> to cause a bit of roughness much like an injector not opening. If
>> jammed open, you'd know it already.
>
> Yeah it idles rough. I was thinking it could be clogged up.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto techs
a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel injectors today
like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel injector cleaning
additives in all grades of most gasolines together with much better fuel
filtration systems.
GTI wrote:
> Lon wrote:
>> GTI proclaimed:
>>
>>> I have gotten this code since I got my crate engine started. I have
>>> checked the wires and all that good stuff. What can I do to correct
>>> this issue?
>>>
>> Check em again. You have a fuel injector that isn't moving when hit
>> with a feed pulse. Or if it is moving the feedback isn't getting back
>> properly. Might be damaged wire in the feedback if the engine is
>> running *smoothly*. Could be a jammed injector but would expect that
>> to cause a bit of roughness much like an injector not opening. If
>> jammed open, you'd know it already.
>
> Yeah it idles rough. I was thinking it could be clogged up.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-28-2006, 01:36 PM
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Re: Error Code 27
While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto techs
a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel injectors today
like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel injector cleaning
additives in all grades of most gasolines together with much better fuel
filtration systems.
GTI wrote:
> Lon wrote:
>> GTI proclaimed:
>>
>>> I have gotten this code since I got my crate engine started. I have
>>> checked the wires and all that good stuff. What can I do to correct
>>> this issue?
>>>
>> Check em again. You have a fuel injector that isn't moving when hit
>> with a feed pulse. Or if it is moving the feedback isn't getting back
>> properly. Might be damaged wire in the feedback if the engine is
>> running *smoothly*. Could be a jammed injector but would expect that
>> to cause a bit of roughness much like an injector not opening. If
>> jammed open, you'd know it already.
>
> Yeah it idles rough. I was thinking it could be clogged up.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto techs
a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel injectors today
like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel injector cleaning
additives in all grades of most gasolines together with much better fuel
filtration systems.
GTI wrote:
> Lon wrote:
>> GTI proclaimed:
>>
>>> I have gotten this code since I got my crate engine started. I have
>>> checked the wires and all that good stuff. What can I do to correct
>>> this issue?
>>>
>> Check em again. You have a fuel injector that isn't moving when hit
>> with a feed pulse. Or if it is moving the feedback isn't getting back
>> properly. Might be damaged wire in the feedback if the engine is
>> running *smoothly*. Could be a jammed injector but would expect that
>> to cause a bit of roughness much like an injector not opening. If
>> jammed open, you'd know it already.
>
> Yeah it idles rough. I was thinking it could be clogged up.
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
07-28-2006, 03:42 PM
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Re: Error Code 27
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
> happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto
> techs a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel
> injectors today like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel
> injector cleaning additives in all grades of most gasolines together
> with much better fuel filtration systems.
It's possible that GTI accidentally swapped injector wires.
Can't remember which pair but I know two of them both come out
the same location on the rail. That's why the noid lights are
handy.
Some shops also have the Sun tool that can watch both spark and
injectors to determine what's going on.
I'd start with a noid light first.
--
DougW
> While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
> happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto
> techs a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel
> injectors today like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel
> injector cleaning additives in all grades of most gasolines together
> with much better fuel filtration systems.
It's possible that GTI accidentally swapped injector wires.
Can't remember which pair but I know two of them both come out
the same location on the rail. That's why the noid lights are
handy.
Some shops also have the Sun tool that can watch both spark and
injectors to determine what's going on.
I'd start with a noid light first.
--
DougW
07-28-2006, 03:42 PM
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Re: Error Code 27
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
> happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto
> techs a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel
> injectors today like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel
> injector cleaning additives in all grades of most gasolines together
> with much better fuel filtration systems.
It's possible that GTI accidentally swapped injector wires.
Can't remember which pair but I know two of them both come out
the same location on the rail. That's why the noid lights are
handy.
Some shops also have the Sun tool that can watch both spark and
injectors to determine what's going on.
I'd start with a noid light first.
--
DougW
> While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
> happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto
> techs a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel
> injectors today like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel
> injector cleaning additives in all grades of most gasolines together
> with much better fuel filtration systems.
It's possible that GTI accidentally swapped injector wires.
Can't remember which pair but I know two of them both come out
the same location on the rail. That's why the noid lights are
handy.
Some shops also have the Sun tool that can watch both spark and
injectors to determine what's going on.
I'd start with a noid light first.
--
DougW
07-28-2006, 03:42 PM
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Re: Error Code 27
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
> happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto
> techs a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel
> injectors today like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel
> injector cleaning additives in all grades of most gasolines together
> with much better fuel filtration systems.
It's possible that GTI accidentally swapped injector wires.
Can't remember which pair but I know two of them both come out
the same location on the rail. That's why the noid lights are
handy.
Some shops also have the Sun tool that can watch both spark and
injectors to determine what's going on.
I'd start with a noid light first.
--
DougW
> While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
> happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto
> techs a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel
> injectors today like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel
> injector cleaning additives in all grades of most gasolines together
> with much better fuel filtration systems.
It's possible that GTI accidentally swapped injector wires.
Can't remember which pair but I know two of them both come out
the same location on the rail. That's why the noid lights are
handy.
Some shops also have the Sun tool that can watch both spark and
injectors to determine what's going on.
I'd start with a noid light first.
--
DougW
07-28-2006, 03:42 PM
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Re: Error Code 27
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
> happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto
> techs a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel
> injectors today like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel
> injector cleaning additives in all grades of most gasolines together
> with much better fuel filtration systems.
It's possible that GTI accidentally swapped injector wires.
Can't remember which pair but I know two of them both come out
the same location on the rail. That's why the noid lights are
handy.
Some shops also have the Sun tool that can watch both spark and
injectors to determine what's going on.
I'd start with a noid light first.
--
DougW
> While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
> happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto
> techs a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel
> injectors today like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel
> injector cleaning additives in all grades of most gasolines together
> with much better fuel filtration systems.
It's possible that GTI accidentally swapped injector wires.
Can't remember which pair but I know two of them both come out
the same location on the rail. That's why the noid lights are
handy.
Some shops also have the Sun tool that can watch both spark and
injectors to determine what's going on.
I'd start with a noid light first.
--
DougW
07-28-2006, 10:42 PM
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Re: Error Code 27
I'd agree for reasonably normal operation above freezing, but I may have
falsely presumed that the new engine did not come with new injectors...
or if it did, possibly one is no good.
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
> happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto techs
> a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel injectors today
> like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel injector cleaning
> additives in all grades of most gasolines together with much better fuel
> filtration systems.
>
> GTI wrote:
>
>> Lon wrote:
>>
>>> GTI proclaimed:
>>>
>>>> I have gotten this code since I got my crate engine started. I have
>>>> checked the wires and all that good stuff. What can I do to correct
>>>> this issue?
>>>>
>>> Check em again. You have a fuel injector that isn't moving when hit
>>> with a feed pulse. Or if it is moving the feedback isn't getting back
>>> properly. Might be damaged wire in the feedback if the engine is
>>> running *smoothly*. Could be a jammed injector but would expect that
>>> to cause a bit of roughness much like an injector not opening. If
>>> jammed open, you'd know it already.
>>
>>
>> Yeah it idles rough. I was thinking it could be clogged up.
>>
>
07-28-2006, 10:42 PM
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Re: Error Code 27
I'd agree for reasonably normal operation above freezing, but I may have
falsely presumed that the new engine did not come with new injectors...
or if it did, possibly one is no good.
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
> happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto techs
> a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel injectors today
> like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel injector cleaning
> additives in all grades of most gasolines together with much better fuel
> filtration systems.
>
> GTI wrote:
>
>> Lon wrote:
>>
>>> GTI proclaimed:
>>>
>>>> I have gotten this code since I got my crate engine started. I have
>>>> checked the wires and all that good stuff. What can I do to correct
>>>> this issue?
>>>>
>>> Check em again. You have a fuel injector that isn't moving when hit
>>> with a feed pulse. Or if it is moving the feedback isn't getting back
>>> properly. Might be damaged wire in the feedback if the engine is
>>> running *smoothly*. Could be a jammed injector but would expect that
>>> to cause a bit of roughness much like an injector not opening. If
>>> jammed open, you'd know it already.
>>
>>
>> Yeah it idles rough. I was thinking it could be clogged up.
>>
>
07-28-2006, 10:42 PM
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Re: Error Code 27
I'd agree for reasonably normal operation above freezing, but I may have
falsely presumed that the new engine did not come with new injectors...
or if it did, possibly one is no good.
Jerry Bransford proclaimed:
> While your fuel injector could conceivably be clogged up, that rarely
> happens in today's engine's with today's fuels. I am around auto techs
> a lot and the older ones say they don't see clogged fuel injectors today
> like they used to. Reason being better/more fuel injector cleaning
> additives in all grades of most gasolines together with much better fuel
> filtration systems.
>
> GTI wrote:
>
>> Lon wrote:
>>
>>> GTI proclaimed:
>>>
>>>> I have gotten this code since I got my crate engine started. I have
>>>> checked the wires and all that good stuff. What can I do to correct
>>>> this issue?
>>>>
>>> Check em again. You have a fuel injector that isn't moving when hit
>>> with a feed pulse. Or if it is moving the feedback isn't getting back
>>> properly. Might be damaged wire in the feedback if the engine is
>>> running *smoothly*. Could be a jammed injector but would expect that
>>> to cause a bit of roughness much like an injector not opening. If
>>> jammed open, you'd know it already.
>>
>>
>> Yeah it idles rough. I was thinking it could be clogged up.
>>
>