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Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 12:07 PM

Emissions cannister
 
Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister for 82
CJ ???





Kevin Sperle 04-06-2004 12:26 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
dealership

"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister for 82
> CJ ???
>
>
>
>




Kevin Sperle 04-06-2004 12:26 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
dealership

"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister for 82
> CJ ???
>
>
>
>




Kevin Sperle 04-06-2004 12:26 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
dealership

"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister for 82
> CJ ???
>
>
>
>




Kevin Sperle 04-06-2004 12:26 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
dealership

"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister for 82
> CJ ???
>
>
>
>




Mike Romain 04-06-2004 12:30 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
so. It 'was' $80.00.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Kevin Sperle wrote:
>
> Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> dealership
>
> "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister for 82
> > CJ ???
> >
> >
> >
> >


Mike Romain 04-06-2004 12:30 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
so. It 'was' $80.00.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Kevin Sperle wrote:
>
> Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> dealership
>
> "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister for 82
> > CJ ???
> >
> >
> >
> >


Mike Romain 04-06-2004 12:30 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
so. It 'was' $80.00.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Kevin Sperle wrote:
>
> Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> dealership
>
> "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister for 82
> > CJ ???
> >
> >
> >
> >


Mike Romain 04-06-2004 12:30 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
so. It 'was' $80.00.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Kevin Sperle wrote:
>
> Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> dealership
>
> "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister for 82
> > CJ ???
> >
> >
> >
> >


Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 01:10 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
> so. It 'was' $80.00.


Mike,

Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN. scam
to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any way
to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???

tia,
rod


>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Kevin Sperle wrote:
> >
> > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > dealership
> >
> > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister

for 82
> > > CJ ???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >




Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 01:10 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
> so. It 'was' $80.00.


Mike,

Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN. scam
to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any way
to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???

tia,
rod


>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Kevin Sperle wrote:
> >
> > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > dealership
> >
> > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister

for 82
> > > CJ ???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >




Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 01:10 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
> so. It 'was' $80.00.


Mike,

Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN. scam
to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any way
to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???

tia,
rod


>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Kevin Sperle wrote:
> >
> > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > dealership
> >
> > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister

for 82
> > > CJ ???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >




Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 01:10 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
> so. It 'was' $80.00.


Mike,

Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN. scam
to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any way
to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???

tia,
rod


>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Kevin Sperle wrote:
> >
> > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > dealership
> >
> > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister

for 82
> > > CJ ???
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >




Mike Romain 04-06-2004 02:01 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Canadian tire sells the air filters for the bottom for about $2.00.

I had to use a hammer and chisel to get mine out the first time, then
the new filter just tucks back in.

I moved mine up under my brake booster so it doesn't get muddy so fast.

Mike

Rod Gramlich wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.

>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN. scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister

> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >


Mike Romain 04-06-2004 02:01 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Canadian tire sells the air filters for the bottom for about $2.00.

I had to use a hammer and chisel to get mine out the first time, then
the new filter just tucks back in.

I moved mine up under my brake booster so it doesn't get muddy so fast.

Mike

Rod Gramlich wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.

>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN. scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister

> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >


Mike Romain 04-06-2004 02:01 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Canadian tire sells the air filters for the bottom for about $2.00.

I had to use a hammer and chisel to get mine out the first time, then
the new filter just tucks back in.

I moved mine up under my brake booster so it doesn't get muddy so fast.

Mike

Rod Gramlich wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.

>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN. scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister

> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >


Mike Romain 04-06-2004 02:01 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Canadian tire sells the air filters for the bottom for about $2.00.

I had to use a hammer and chisel to get mine out the first time, then
the new filter just tucks back in.

I moved mine up under my brake booster so it doesn't get muddy so fast.

Mike

Rod Gramlich wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00 or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.

>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN. scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions canister

> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >


Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 03:55 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4072F05E.F7EA6E7@sympatico.ca...
> Canadian tire sells the air filters for the bottom for about $2.00.
>
> I had to use a hammer and chisel


Gotcha !!!!! I believe I have those tools :>)



Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 03:55 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4072F05E.F7EA6E7@sympatico.ca...
> Canadian tire sells the air filters for the bottom for about $2.00.
>
> I had to use a hammer and chisel


Gotcha !!!!! I believe I have those tools :>)



Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 03:55 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4072F05E.F7EA6E7@sympatico.ca...
> Canadian tire sells the air filters for the bottom for about $2.00.
>
> I had to use a hammer and chisel


Gotcha !!!!! I believe I have those tools :>)



Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 03:55 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4072F05E.F7EA6E7@sympatico.ca...
> Canadian tire sells the air filters for the bottom for about $2.00.
>
> I had to use a hammer and chisel


Gotcha !!!!! I believe I have those tools :>)



Kevin Sperle 04-06-2004 03:56 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Depends if it's just a plugged filter or the cannister is actually shot. If
it's just the filter, $2.00 like mike said.

There are many people that run without it, but it is the gas tank vent and
some of those things need to be taken into account if you run without it.
I'm sure if you do a Google group search someone will have explained how to
run without it.

For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=
3


"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4uoam$ies$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00

or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.

>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN.

scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any

way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions

canister
> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

>
>




Kevin Sperle 04-06-2004 03:56 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Depends if it's just a plugged filter or the cannister is actually shot. If
it's just the filter, $2.00 like mike said.

There are many people that run without it, but it is the gas tank vent and
some of those things need to be taken into account if you run without it.
I'm sure if you do a Google group search someone will have explained how to
run without it.

For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=
3


"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4uoam$ies$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00

or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.

>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN.

scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any

way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions

canister
> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

>
>




Kevin Sperle 04-06-2004 03:56 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Depends if it's just a plugged filter or the cannister is actually shot. If
it's just the filter, $2.00 like mike said.

There are many people that run without it, but it is the gas tank vent and
some of those things need to be taken into account if you run without it.
I'm sure if you do a Google group search someone will have explained how to
run without it.

For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=
3


"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4uoam$ies$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00

or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.

>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN.

scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any

way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions

canister
> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

>
>




Kevin Sperle 04-06-2004 03:56 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Depends if it's just a plugged filter or the cannister is actually shot. If
it's just the filter, $2.00 like mike said.

There are many people that run without it, but it is the gas tank vent and
some of those things need to be taken into account if you run without it.
I'm sure if you do a Google group search someone will have explained how to
run without it.

For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=
3


"Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
news:c4uoam$ies$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4072DB2F.B80627DF@sympatico.ca...
> > The stealership just doubled the price here in Toronto up to $160.00

or
> > so. It 'was' $80.00.

>
> Mike,
>
> Thanks for the info. And it sounds like an extension of the CDN.

scam
> to gouge us all with Kyoto taxes. :>) Now .... that said - is there any

way
> to by-pass this plugged blob and NOT replace it ???
>
> tia,
> rod
>
>
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Kevin Sperle wrote:
> > >
> > > Junk yard, otherwise expect to pay at least $80 from your local Jeep
> > > dealership
> > >
> > > "Rod Gramlich" <rod.gramlich@ualberta.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:c4ukk8$gn3$1@tabloid.srv.ualberta.ca...
> > > > Does anyone know where one can get replacement emissions

canister
> for 82
> > > > CJ ???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >

>
>




Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 05:35 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:lYDcc.76$SP4.46995@news.uswest.net...
>
> For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=


As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the air
filter through the valve cover intake line.

BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old cannister had finally packed it in, causing PCV circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of original carb :>)





Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 05:35 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:lYDcc.76$SP4.46995@news.uswest.net...
>
> For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=


As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the air
filter through the valve cover intake line.

BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old cannister had finally packed it in, causing PCV circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of original carb :>)





Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 05:35 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:lYDcc.76$SP4.46995@news.uswest.net...
>
> For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=


As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the air
filter through the valve cover intake line.

BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old cannister had finally packed it in, causing PCV circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of original carb :>)





Rod Gramlich 04-06-2004 05:35 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 

"Kevin Sperle" <ksperle@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:lYDcc.76$SP4.46995@news.uswest.net...
>
> For example here's a great post from Mike on the subject 4 years ago
> http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...3307e868&rnum=


As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the air
filter through the valve cover intake line.

BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old cannister had finally packed it in, causing PCV circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of original carb :>)





Mike Romain 04-06-2004 06:27 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
air
filter through the valve cover intake line.


BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
original carb :>)


That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
canister.

At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
canister purge is messed up.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 04-06-2004 06:27 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
air
filter through the valve cover intake line.


BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
original carb :>)


That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
canister.

At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
canister purge is messed up.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 04-06-2004 06:27 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
air
filter through the valve cover intake line.


BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
original carb :>)


That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
canister.

At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
canister purge is messed up.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Mike Romain 04-06-2004 06:27 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
As per mike's post:

If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
air
filter through the valve cover intake line.


BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
valve.

NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
original carb :>)


That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
canister.

At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
canister purge is messed up.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Rod Gramlich 04-07-2004 10:04 AM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Mike,

I pulled the EGR last night, and discovered it full of grease, mud,
carbon, leaves ................ to name a few. I completely cleaned it up,
and reinstalled (using a high temp Si for gasket ....... since I destroyed
old gasket in the process. NOTE that a mech. friend of mine tells me to make
that a temp fix/gasket, and replace with proper metal clad gasket ASAP). I
also pulled the 'delay valve' *between EGR and PCV** (as my Haynes decribes
it) and it seems OK (it's not stuck shut at least ..... and it's warm here
now :>), so I couldn't really test it properly - well I guess I could use
the freezer :). I drove to work this am and there did not "seem" to be the
lingering odor of gasoline fumes. Maybe it's wishful thinking ...... I'll
have to give it a few runs to convince myself of that.

The large hose from PCV to base of carb definitely appears slightly
compression sucked/shrunk at the bend prior to carb fitting.

tks,
rod





"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40732EEC.7B9526D6@sympatico.ca...
> As per mike's post:
>
> If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
> system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
> air
> filter through the valve cover intake line.
>
>
> BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
> canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
> circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
> valve.
>
> NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
> original carb :>)
>
>
> That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
> carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
> solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
> you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
> canister.
>
> At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
> canister purge is messed up.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




Rod Gramlich 04-07-2004 10:04 AM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Mike,

I pulled the EGR last night, and discovered it full of grease, mud,
carbon, leaves ................ to name a few. I completely cleaned it up,
and reinstalled (using a high temp Si for gasket ....... since I destroyed
old gasket in the process. NOTE that a mech. friend of mine tells me to make
that a temp fix/gasket, and replace with proper metal clad gasket ASAP). I
also pulled the 'delay valve' *between EGR and PCV** (as my Haynes decribes
it) and it seems OK (it's not stuck shut at least ..... and it's warm here
now :>), so I couldn't really test it properly - well I guess I could use
the freezer :). I drove to work this am and there did not "seem" to be the
lingering odor of gasoline fumes. Maybe it's wishful thinking ...... I'll
have to give it a few runs to convince myself of that.

The large hose from PCV to base of carb definitely appears slightly
compression sucked/shrunk at the bend prior to carb fitting.

tks,
rod





"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40732EEC.7B9526D6@sympatico.ca...
> As per mike's post:
>
> If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
> system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
> air
> filter through the valve cover intake line.
>
>
> BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
> canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
> circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
> valve.
>
> NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
> original carb :>)
>
>
> That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
> carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
> solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
> you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
> canister.
>
> At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
> canister purge is messed up.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




Rod Gramlich 04-07-2004 10:04 AM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Mike,

I pulled the EGR last night, and discovered it full of grease, mud,
carbon, leaves ................ to name a few. I completely cleaned it up,
and reinstalled (using a high temp Si for gasket ....... since I destroyed
old gasket in the process. NOTE that a mech. friend of mine tells me to make
that a temp fix/gasket, and replace with proper metal clad gasket ASAP). I
also pulled the 'delay valve' *between EGR and PCV** (as my Haynes decribes
it) and it seems OK (it's not stuck shut at least ..... and it's warm here
now :>), so I couldn't really test it properly - well I guess I could use
the freezer :). I drove to work this am and there did not "seem" to be the
lingering odor of gasoline fumes. Maybe it's wishful thinking ...... I'll
have to give it a few runs to convince myself of that.

The large hose from PCV to base of carb definitely appears slightly
compression sucked/shrunk at the bend prior to carb fitting.

tks,
rod





"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40732EEC.7B9526D6@sympatico.ca...
> As per mike's post:
>
> If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
> system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
> air
> filter through the valve cover intake line.
>
>
> BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
> canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
> circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
> valve.
>
> NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
> original carb :>)
>
>
> That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
> carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
> solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
> you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
> canister.
>
> At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
> canister purge is messed up.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




Rod Gramlich 04-07-2004 10:04 AM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
Mike,

I pulled the EGR last night, and discovered it full of grease, mud,
carbon, leaves ................ to name a few. I completely cleaned it up,
and reinstalled (using a high temp Si for gasket ....... since I destroyed
old gasket in the process. NOTE that a mech. friend of mine tells me to make
that a temp fix/gasket, and replace with proper metal clad gasket ASAP). I
also pulled the 'delay valve' *between EGR and PCV** (as my Haynes decribes
it) and it seems OK (it's not stuck shut at least ..... and it's warm here
now :>), so I couldn't really test it properly - well I guess I could use
the freezer :). I drove to work this am and there did not "seem" to be the
lingering odor of gasoline fumes. Maybe it's wishful thinking ...... I'll
have to give it a few runs to convince myself of that.

The large hose from PCV to base of carb definitely appears slightly
compression sucked/shrunk at the bend prior to carb fitting.

tks,
rod





"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40732EEC.7B9526D6@sympatico.ca...
> As per mike's post:
>
> If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
> system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
> air
> filter through the valve cover intake line.
>
>
> BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
> canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
> circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
> valve.
>
> NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
> original carb :>)
>
>
> That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
> carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
> solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
> you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
> canister.
>
> At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
> canister purge is messed up.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's




Mike Romain 04-07-2004 12:15 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
The PCV flow is metered to match the intake hose from the air filter and
the charcoal canister purge input.

If the elbow has half collapsed, that can interfere enough to give you
some oil blowing into the air filter. They are really touchy about
that. Even a bad leak on the valve cover gaskets or grommets can affect
the flow enough to spit oil.

If you can pinch off the PCV line from the back of the carb to the
canister and the idle doesn't change, then I would just change the air
filter on the canister to make the canister flow right and fix that
elbow up and then see what happens.

Mike

Rod Gramlich wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I pulled the EGR last night, and discovered it full of grease, mud,
> carbon, leaves ................ to name a few. I completely cleaned it up,
> and reinstalled (using a high temp Si for gasket ....... since I destroyed
> old gasket in the process. NOTE that a mech. friend of mine tells me to make
> that a temp fix/gasket, and replace with proper metal clad gasket ASAP). I
> also pulled the 'delay valve' *between EGR and PCV** (as my Haynes decribes
> it) and it seems OK (it's not stuck shut at least ..... and it's warm here
> now :>), so I couldn't really test it properly - well I guess I could use
> the freezer :). I drove to work this am and there did not "seem" to be the
> lingering odor of gasoline fumes. Maybe it's wishful thinking ...... I'll
> have to give it a few runs to convince myself of that.
>
> The large hose from PCV to base of carb definitely appears slightly
> compression sucked/shrunk at the bend prior to carb fitting.
>
> tks,
> rod
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40732EEC.7B9526D6@sympatico.ca...
> > As per mike's post:
> >
> > If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
> > system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
> > air
> > filter through the valve cover intake line.
> >
> >
> > BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
> > canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
> > circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
> > valve.
> >
> > NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
> > original carb :>)
> >
> >
> > That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
> > carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
> > solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
> > you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
> > canister.
> >
> > At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
> > canister purge is messed up.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Mike Romain 04-07-2004 12:15 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
The PCV flow is metered to match the intake hose from the air filter and
the charcoal canister purge input.

If the elbow has half collapsed, that can interfere enough to give you
some oil blowing into the air filter. They are really touchy about
that. Even a bad leak on the valve cover gaskets or grommets can affect
the flow enough to spit oil.

If you can pinch off the PCV line from the back of the carb to the
canister and the idle doesn't change, then I would just change the air
filter on the canister to make the canister flow right and fix that
elbow up and then see what happens.

Mike

Rod Gramlich wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I pulled the EGR last night, and discovered it full of grease, mud,
> carbon, leaves ................ to name a few. I completely cleaned it up,
> and reinstalled (using a high temp Si for gasket ....... since I destroyed
> old gasket in the process. NOTE that a mech. friend of mine tells me to make
> that a temp fix/gasket, and replace with proper metal clad gasket ASAP). I
> also pulled the 'delay valve' *between EGR and PCV** (as my Haynes decribes
> it) and it seems OK (it's not stuck shut at least ..... and it's warm here
> now :>), so I couldn't really test it properly - well I guess I could use
> the freezer :). I drove to work this am and there did not "seem" to be the
> lingering odor of gasoline fumes. Maybe it's wishful thinking ...... I'll
> have to give it a few runs to convince myself of that.
>
> The large hose from PCV to base of carb definitely appears slightly
> compression sucked/shrunk at the bend prior to carb fitting.
>
> tks,
> rod
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40732EEC.7B9526D6@sympatico.ca...
> > As per mike's post:
> >
> > If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
> > system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
> > air
> > filter through the valve cover intake line.
> >
> >
> > BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
> > canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
> > circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
> > valve.
> >
> > NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
> > original carb :>)
> >
> >
> > That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
> > carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
> > solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
> > you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
> > canister.
> >
> > At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
> > canister purge is messed up.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's


Mike Romain 04-07-2004 12:15 PM

Re: Emissions cannister
 
The PCV flow is metered to match the intake hose from the air filter and
the charcoal canister purge input.

If the elbow has half collapsed, that can interfere enough to give you
some oil blowing into the air filter. They are really touchy about
that. Even a bad leak on the valve cover gaskets or grommets can affect
the flow enough to spit oil.

If you can pinch off the PCV line from the back of the carb to the
canister and the idle doesn't change, then I would just change the air
filter on the canister to make the canister flow right and fix that
elbow up and then see what happens.

Mike

Rod Gramlich wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> I pulled the EGR last night, and discovered it full of grease, mud,
> carbon, leaves ................ to name a few. I completely cleaned it up,
> and reinstalled (using a high temp Si for gasket ....... since I destroyed
> old gasket in the process. NOTE that a mech. friend of mine tells me to make
> that a temp fix/gasket, and replace with proper metal clad gasket ASAP). I
> also pulled the 'delay valve' *between EGR and PCV** (as my Haynes decribes
> it) and it seems OK (it's not stuck shut at least ..... and it's warm here
> now :>), so I couldn't really test it properly - well I guess I could use
> the freezer :). I drove to work this am and there did not "seem" to be the
> lingering odor of gasoline fumes. Maybe it's wishful thinking ...... I'll
> have to give it a few runs to convince myself of that.
>
> The large hose from PCV to base of carb definitely appears slightly
> compression sucked/shrunk at the bend prior to carb fitting.
>
> tks,
> rod
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40732EEC.7B9526D6@sympatico.ca...
> > As per mike's post:
> >
> > If the purge valve goes bad, then it basically shuts down your PCV
> > system, messing the idle and usually causing oil to blow into the
> > air
> > filter through the valve cover intake line.
> >
> >
> > BINGO !!!!! That is my precise symptom. I just assumed the old
> > canister had finally packed it in, causing PCV
> > circulation to fail. I'll have to get my manual out and find this
> > valve.
> >
> > NOTE: Vehicle runs/idles fine (a miracle for the 258 c/w rebuild of
> > original carb :>)
> >
> >
> > That is a bad purge valve. If you trace the PCV line to the back of the
> > carb, make sure the elbow hasn't collapsed. Back of the carb there is a
> > solenoid or T fitting. The solenoid can be tossed, it's a recall thing,
> > you just use a T fitting. Off this a line goes to the top of the
> > canister.
> >
> > At idle pinch this line to the canister closed. If the idle changes the
> > canister purge is messed up.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's



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