Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
10-15-2003, 05:23 PM
#21
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Which is as strong as a Dana 44, until someone splits the hub from
the axle, to replace the seal, after that you must buy the one piece
axles like the Dana's have switched too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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travis wrote:
>
> Sorry, make that AMC-20 rear...still trying to learn...
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
the axle, to replace the seal, after that you must buy the one piece
axles like the Dana's have switched too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
travis wrote:
>
> Sorry, make that AMC-20 rear...still trying to learn...
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
10-15-2003, 05:23 PM
#22
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
Which is as strong as a Dana 44, until someone splits the hub from
the axle, to replace the seal, after that you must buy the one piece
axles like the Dana's have switched too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
travis wrote:
>
> Sorry, make that AMC-20 rear...still trying to learn...
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
the axle, to replace the seal, after that you must buy the one piece
axles like the Dana's have switched too.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
travis wrote:
>
> Sorry, make that AMC-20 rear...still trying to learn...
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
10-15-2003, 05:26 PM
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
10-15-2003, 05:26 PM
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
10-15-2003, 05:26 PM
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
10-15-2003, 05:30 PM
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
We have to stop, maybe someone's that's whole lot better than I may
double clutch it, going through neutral, but there's too many variables
for me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
double clutch it, going through neutral, but there's too many variables
for me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
10-15-2003, 05:30 PM
#27
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
We have to stop, maybe someone's that's whole lot better than I may
double clutch it, going through neutral, but there's too many variables
for me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
double clutch it, going through neutral, but there's too many variables
for me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
10-15-2003, 05:30 PM
#28
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
We have to stop, maybe someone's that's whole lot better than I may
double clutch it, going through neutral, but there's too many variables
for me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
double clutch it, going through neutral, but there's too many variables
for me.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JimG wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
> Well OK, I guess I never tried it (nor owned an owners manual)... and we are
> talking about a Dana 20 not our 300's. But did I get the pattern correct?
> JimG
10-15-2003, 05:30 PM
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
you can shift into or out of 4 wheel drive while moving , preferably driving
in in a straig;ht line, so that both drive shafts are turning at same speed,
AND, not while the rear wheels are slipping and spinning. To go into low,
you must be moving only 2 or 3 miles and hour. If you goof it and cannot
shift, stop the engine and shift into low then. This is how I did it with
my stick Jeeps. Doesn't usually hurt to leave the hubs locked..I left mine
locked all winter usually in my snowy location.....don't worry about shift
patterns, there aren't any...just straight back and forth.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
in in a straig;ht line, so that both drive shafts are turning at same speed,
AND, not while the rear wheels are slipping and spinning. To go into low,
you must be moving only 2 or 3 miles and hour. If you goof it and cannot
shift, stop the engine and shift into low then. This is how I did it with
my stick Jeeps. Doesn't usually hurt to leave the hubs locked..I left mine
locked all winter usually in my snowy location.....don't worry about shift
patterns, there aren't any...just straight back and forth.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
10-15-2003, 05:30 PM
#30
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Re: Embarrassing newbie questions about xfer case shifting
you can shift into or out of 4 wheel drive while moving , preferably driving
in in a straig;ht line, so that both drive shafts are turning at same speed,
AND, not while the rear wheels are slipping and spinning. To go into low,
you must be moving only 2 or 3 miles and hour. If you goof it and cannot
shift, stop the engine and shift into low then. This is how I did it with
my stick Jeeps. Doesn't usually hurt to leave the hubs locked..I left mine
locked all winter usually in my snowy location.....don't worry about shift
patterns, there aren't any...just straight back and forth.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
in in a straig;ht line, so that both drive shafts are turning at same speed,
AND, not while the rear wheels are slipping and spinning. To go into low,
you must be moving only 2 or 3 miles and hour. If you goof it and cannot
shift, stop the engine and shift into low then. This is how I did it with
my stick Jeeps. Doesn't usually hurt to leave the hubs locked..I left mine
locked all winter usually in my snowy location.....don't worry about shift
patterns, there aren't any...just straight back and forth.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:049qovgcv5b55gfquej1gdo8g9q8c99i6f@4ax.com...
> Hi all, I'm going to go check out a '78 CJ-7 with 304/3-speed today at
> noon. Supposedly "everything works" and the drivetrain is 100% stock.
> I think that means a spicer-20 xfer case (good thing from what I
> read), dana20 rear(weakest link on this setup from what I read), and
> dana30 front (not bad from what I've read). I've ridden in a few
> Jeeps but I've never actually driven one so I have the ultimate newbie
> question for you... I know how to drive a stick shift just fine,
> but... (here comes the embarrassing part...I've never actually driven
> a 4WD vehicle before so the xfer case shifting stuff is a myster to
> me...) on a 4WD vehicle there's that extra stick for the xfer case
> to choose between 2WD/4WD and high/low... On a Jeep, what is that
> shift pattern like? Hopefully it's marked on the stick... Like
> forward and to the left for 2WD, then straight back for 4WD(high), and
> back and to the right for 4WD(low)? (Just as an example) Something
> like that? Also, when using the xfer case shifter, I'd guess that I
> would depress the clutch like I do to shift transmission gears? In a
> normal offroad situation I think I'd approach the trail, get out and
> engage the manual hubs (keeping the xfer case set for 2WD) and then
> enter the trails and drive around like that and switch to 4WD using
> the xfer case when needed. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to drive around
> some with the hubs locked but the Jeep still in 2WD, would it? That
> would just make it so that the front axle would be spinning since it
> would be "locked" at the wheel hub as I moved but the front driveshaft
> would still be stationary because it was decoupled from the xfer case,
> right? I think I have that right, but wanted to be sure. The most
> important thing I need to know for right now though, is how to shift
> the xfer case since I'm gonna go test drive this Jeep today. Use the
> clutch when shifting xfer case? (probably) And the shift pattern? I
> have no idea what it is. Oh, and I'm also guessing that I wouldn't
> shift the xfer case at all unless I'm at a full stop, not moving at
> all? Thanks! (Hey, everybody had to learn this stuff at some
> point... Maybe a couple of years from now I'll google search on this
> post and have a good laugh at myself for having questions like these.
> :-)
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!