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travis 11-08-2003 01:58 PM

Re: Electrical woes continue. Help? FIXED!!!
 
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:25:03 -0500, travis
<travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:

>On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:17:40 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
>following:
>
>>"hum dinger" fo sho! Be tuff to read 4 ohms with that one... alternator is
>>probably OK... go get a regulator.
>>JMHO

>
>I just checked and AutoZone has a regulator for $9.89 so I may just do
>that. Yeah, very tough to be sure that it's reading 0 ohms for real
>since it's a 1K scale. 4 ohms would move the needle about 1/00th of
>an inch or so. :-)


CHA CHING!!! Went by AutoZone and their one regulator they had in
stock was "broken in the box." Not sure how she could look at it and
tell... Anyway, left there and went to Pep Boys. They wanted $26 for
a voltage regulator. Left, went to Advance Auto, they had one in
stock for $9 and change. Came home, swapped it out, fired up Jeep,
voltage jumped right up to a little over 14 V on the voltmeter gauge
on the dash just like it did before the trouble started. Thanks to
everyone who offered me help on this problem. Time to go try out that
winch now... ;-D

mini rant: WTF is up with parts stores around here?!?!? I'm used to
buying most of my car parts online for that old VW I worked on so
much. I might have to start doing that for the Jeep, too. I get sick
of running around looking for parts for it. Today while I was out, I
asked all 3 stores if they had a distributor cap or rotor for my Jeep.
Of the 3 stores, *one* of them had a rotor in stock. So now I have
plugs and a rotor, still need a cap... maybe within the next few
weeks one of the stores around here will get a cap in stock. *sigh*
Or maybe I'll just order a couple of caps and rotors and plugs online
and put them away for when I need them. The auto parts stores near me
SUCK-DIDDLY-UCK!!! :-/



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

travis 11-08-2003 01:58 PM

Re: Electrical woes continue. Help? FIXED!!!
 
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:25:03 -0500, travis
<travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:

>On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:17:40 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
>following:
>
>>"hum dinger" fo sho! Be tuff to read 4 ohms with that one... alternator is
>>probably OK... go get a regulator.
>>JMHO

>
>I just checked and AutoZone has a regulator for $9.89 so I may just do
>that. Yeah, very tough to be sure that it's reading 0 ohms for real
>since it's a 1K scale. 4 ohms would move the needle about 1/00th of
>an inch or so. :-)


CHA CHING!!! Went by AutoZone and their one regulator they had in
stock was "broken in the box." Not sure how she could look at it and
tell... Anyway, left there and went to Pep Boys. They wanted $26 for
a voltage regulator. Left, went to Advance Auto, they had one in
stock for $9 and change. Came home, swapped it out, fired up Jeep,
voltage jumped right up to a little over 14 V on the voltmeter gauge
on the dash just like it did before the trouble started. Thanks to
everyone who offered me help on this problem. Time to go try out that
winch now... ;-D

mini rant: WTF is up with parts stores around here?!?!? I'm used to
buying most of my car parts online for that old VW I worked on so
much. I might have to start doing that for the Jeep, too. I get sick
of running around looking for parts for it. Today while I was out, I
asked all 3 stores if they had a distributor cap or rotor for my Jeep.
Of the 3 stores, *one* of them had a rotor in stock. So now I have
plugs and a rotor, still need a cap... maybe within the next few
weeks one of the stores around here will get a cap in stock. *sigh*
Or maybe I'll just order a couple of caps and rotors and plugs online
and put them away for when I need them. The auto parts stores near me
SUCK-DIDDLY-UCK!!! :-/



--
Travis
http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
:wq!

TJim 11-08-2003 02:18 PM

Re: Electrical woes continue. Help? FIXED!!!
 
Travis,
I don't remember what engine you said you have in your CJ, but you might
want to look into the TFI upgrade. I installed this on my Grand Wagoneer
with an AMC 360 and it made a world of difference in smooth idle and
application of power. It's a *whole* lot cheaper than the HEI upgrade, too.

http://fsjeep.homestead.com/TFI_Upgade.html
This is mainly for the AMC V8s, but you might find useful information here.

http://www.ifsja.org/tech/electrical...nupgrade.shtml
This is a more general article and has a lot of good information and ideas.
This article is referenced in the one above, too.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6teqqvooqf5d5pk32d84iqhk7tjfavt3lo@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:25:03 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:17:40 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
> >following:
> >
> >>"hum dinger" fo sho! Be tuff to read 4 ohms with that one... alternator

is
> >>probably OK... go get a regulator.
> >>JMHO

> >
> >I just checked and AutoZone has a regulator for $9.89 so I may just do
> >that. Yeah, very tough to be sure that it's reading 0 ohms for real
> >since it's a 1K scale. 4 ohms would move the needle about 1/00th of
> >an inch or so. :-)

>
> CHA CHING!!! Went by AutoZone and their one regulator they had in
> stock was "broken in the box." Not sure how she could look at it and
> tell... Anyway, left there and went to Pep Boys. They wanted $26 for
> a voltage regulator. Left, went to Advance Auto, they had one in
> stock for $9 and change. Came home, swapped it out, fired up Jeep,
> voltage jumped right up to a little over 14 V on the voltmeter gauge
> on the dash just like it did before the trouble started. Thanks to
> everyone who offered me help on this problem. Time to go try out that
> winch now... ;-D
>
> mini rant: WTF is up with parts stores around here?!?!? I'm used to
> buying most of my car parts online for that old VW I worked on so
> much. I might have to start doing that for the Jeep, too. I get sick
> of running around looking for parts for it. Today while I was out, I
> asked all 3 stores if they had a distributor cap or rotor for my Jeep.
> Of the 3 stores, *one* of them had a rotor in stock. So now I have
> plugs and a rotor, still need a cap... maybe within the next few
> weeks one of the stores around here will get a cap in stock. *sigh*
> Or maybe I'll just order a couple of caps and rotors and plugs online
> and put them away for when I need them. The auto parts stores near me
> SUCK-DIDDLY-UCK!!! :-/
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




TJim 11-08-2003 02:18 PM

Re: Electrical woes continue. Help? FIXED!!!
 
Travis,
I don't remember what engine you said you have in your CJ, but you might
want to look into the TFI upgrade. I installed this on my Grand Wagoneer
with an AMC 360 and it made a world of difference in smooth idle and
application of power. It's a *whole* lot cheaper than the HEI upgrade, too.

http://fsjeep.homestead.com/TFI_Upgade.html
This is mainly for the AMC V8s, but you might find useful information here.

http://www.ifsja.org/tech/electrical...nupgrade.shtml
This is a more general article and has a lot of good information and ideas.
This article is referenced in the one above, too.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6teqqvooqf5d5pk32d84iqhk7tjfavt3lo@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:25:03 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:17:40 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
> >following:
> >
> >>"hum dinger" fo sho! Be tuff to read 4 ohms with that one... alternator

is
> >>probably OK... go get a regulator.
> >>JMHO

> >
> >I just checked and AutoZone has a regulator for $9.89 so I may just do
> >that. Yeah, very tough to be sure that it's reading 0 ohms for real
> >since it's a 1K scale. 4 ohms would move the needle about 1/00th of
> >an inch or so. :-)

>
> CHA CHING!!! Went by AutoZone and their one regulator they had in
> stock was "broken in the box." Not sure how she could look at it and
> tell... Anyway, left there and went to Pep Boys. They wanted $26 for
> a voltage regulator. Left, went to Advance Auto, they had one in
> stock for $9 and change. Came home, swapped it out, fired up Jeep,
> voltage jumped right up to a little over 14 V on the voltmeter gauge
> on the dash just like it did before the trouble started. Thanks to
> everyone who offered me help on this problem. Time to go try out that
> winch now... ;-D
>
> mini rant: WTF is up with parts stores around here?!?!? I'm used to
> buying most of my car parts online for that old VW I worked on so
> much. I might have to start doing that for the Jeep, too. I get sick
> of running around looking for parts for it. Today while I was out, I
> asked all 3 stores if they had a distributor cap or rotor for my Jeep.
> Of the 3 stores, *one* of them had a rotor in stock. So now I have
> plugs and a rotor, still need a cap... maybe within the next few
> weeks one of the stores around here will get a cap in stock. *sigh*
> Or maybe I'll just order a couple of caps and rotors and plugs online
> and put them away for when I need them. The auto parts stores near me
> SUCK-DIDDLY-UCK!!! :-/
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




TJim 11-08-2003 02:18 PM

Re: Electrical woes continue. Help? FIXED!!!
 
Travis,
I don't remember what engine you said you have in your CJ, but you might
want to look into the TFI upgrade. I installed this on my Grand Wagoneer
with an AMC 360 and it made a world of difference in smooth idle and
application of power. It's a *whole* lot cheaper than the HEI upgrade, too.

http://fsjeep.homestead.com/TFI_Upgade.html
This is mainly for the AMC V8s, but you might find useful information here.

http://www.ifsja.org/tech/electrical...nupgrade.shtml
This is a more general article and has a lot of good information and ideas.
This article is referenced in the one above, too.

--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"


"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6teqqvooqf5d5pk32d84iqhk7tjfavt3lo@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:25:03 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:17:40 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
> >following:
> >
> >>"hum dinger" fo sho! Be tuff to read 4 ohms with that one... alternator

is
> >>probably OK... go get a regulator.
> >>JMHO

> >
> >I just checked and AutoZone has a regulator for $9.89 so I may just do
> >that. Yeah, very tough to be sure that it's reading 0 ohms for real
> >since it's a 1K scale. 4 ohms would move the needle about 1/00th of
> >an inch or so. :-)

>
> CHA CHING!!! Went by AutoZone and their one regulator they had in
> stock was "broken in the box." Not sure how she could look at it and
> tell... Anyway, left there and went to Pep Boys. They wanted $26 for
> a voltage regulator. Left, went to Advance Auto, they had one in
> stock for $9 and change. Came home, swapped it out, fired up Jeep,
> voltage jumped right up to a little over 14 V on the voltmeter gauge
> on the dash just like it did before the trouble started. Thanks to
> everyone who offered me help on this problem. Time to go try out that
> winch now... ;-D
>
> mini rant: WTF is up with parts stores around here?!?!? I'm used to
> buying most of my car parts online for that old VW I worked on so
> much. I might have to start doing that for the Jeep, too. I get sick
> of running around looking for parts for it. Today while I was out, I
> asked all 3 stores if they had a distributor cap or rotor for my Jeep.
> Of the 3 stores, *one* of them had a rotor in stock. So now I have
> plugs and a rotor, still need a cap... maybe within the next few
> weeks one of the stores around here will get a cap in stock. *sigh*
> Or maybe I'll just order a couple of caps and rotors and plugs online
> and put them away for when I need them. The auto parts stores near me
> SUCK-DIDDLY-UCK!!! :-/
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




JimG 11-08-2003 03:38 PM

Re: Electrical woes continue. Help? FIXED!!!
 
Allll RIGHT!
JimG

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6teqqvooqf5d5pk32d84iqhk7tjfavt3lo@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:25:03 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:17:40 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
> >following:
> >
> >>"hum dinger" fo sho! Be tuff to read 4 ohms with that one... alternator

is
> >>probably OK... go get a regulator.
> >>JMHO

> >
> >I just checked and AutoZone has a regulator for $9.89 so I may just do
> >that. Yeah, very tough to be sure that it's reading 0 ohms for real
> >since it's a 1K scale. 4 ohms would move the needle about 1/00th of
> >an inch or so. :-)

>
> CHA CHING!!! Went by AutoZone and their one regulator they had in
> stock was "broken in the box." Not sure how she could look at it and
> tell... Anyway, left there and went to Pep Boys. They wanted $26 for
> a voltage regulator. Left, went to Advance Auto, they had one in
> stock for $9 and change. Came home, swapped it out, fired up Jeep,
> voltage jumped right up to a little over 14 V on the voltmeter gauge
> on the dash just like it did before the trouble started. Thanks to
> everyone who offered me help on this problem. Time to go try out that
> winch now... ;-D
>
> mini rant: WTF is up with parts stores around here?!?!? I'm used to
> buying most of my car parts online for that old VW I worked on so
> much. I might have to start doing that for the Jeep, too. I get sick
> of running around looking for parts for it. Today while I was out, I
> asked all 3 stores if they had a distributor cap or rotor for my Jeep.
> Of the 3 stores, *one* of them had a rotor in stock. So now I have
> plugs and a rotor, still need a cap... maybe within the next few
> weeks one of the stores around here will get a cap in stock. *sigh*
> Or maybe I'll just order a couple of caps and rotors and plugs online
> and put them away for when I need them. The auto parts stores near me
> SUCK-DIDDLY-UCK!!! :-/
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




JimG 11-08-2003 03:38 PM

Re: Electrical woes continue. Help? FIXED!!!
 
Allll RIGHT!
JimG

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6teqqvooqf5d5pk32d84iqhk7tjfavt3lo@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:25:03 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:17:40 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
> >following:
> >
> >>"hum dinger" fo sho! Be tuff to read 4 ohms with that one... alternator

is
> >>probably OK... go get a regulator.
> >>JMHO

> >
> >I just checked and AutoZone has a regulator for $9.89 so I may just do
> >that. Yeah, very tough to be sure that it's reading 0 ohms for real
> >since it's a 1K scale. 4 ohms would move the needle about 1/00th of
> >an inch or so. :-)

>
> CHA CHING!!! Went by AutoZone and their one regulator they had in
> stock was "broken in the box." Not sure how she could look at it and
> tell... Anyway, left there and went to Pep Boys. They wanted $26 for
> a voltage regulator. Left, went to Advance Auto, they had one in
> stock for $9 and change. Came home, swapped it out, fired up Jeep,
> voltage jumped right up to a little over 14 V on the voltmeter gauge
> on the dash just like it did before the trouble started. Thanks to
> everyone who offered me help on this problem. Time to go try out that
> winch now... ;-D
>
> mini rant: WTF is up with parts stores around here?!?!? I'm used to
> buying most of my car parts online for that old VW I worked on so
> much. I might have to start doing that for the Jeep, too. I get sick
> of running around looking for parts for it. Today while I was out, I
> asked all 3 stores if they had a distributor cap or rotor for my Jeep.
> Of the 3 stores, *one* of them had a rotor in stock. So now I have
> plugs and a rotor, still need a cap... maybe within the next few
> weeks one of the stores around here will get a cap in stock. *sigh*
> Or maybe I'll just order a couple of caps and rotors and plugs online
> and put them away for when I need them. The auto parts stores near me
> SUCK-DIDDLY-UCK!!! :-/
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




JimG 11-08-2003 03:38 PM

Re: Electrical woes continue. Help? FIXED!!!
 
Allll RIGHT!
JimG

"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6teqqvooqf5d5pk32d84iqhk7tjfavt3lo@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 12:25:03 -0500, travis
> <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> shared the following:
>
> >On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 17:17:40 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
> >following:
> >
> >>"hum dinger" fo sho! Be tuff to read 4 ohms with that one... alternator

is
> >>probably OK... go get a regulator.
> >>JMHO

> >
> >I just checked and AutoZone has a regulator for $9.89 so I may just do
> >that. Yeah, very tough to be sure that it's reading 0 ohms for real
> >since it's a 1K scale. 4 ohms would move the needle about 1/00th of
> >an inch or so. :-)

>
> CHA CHING!!! Went by AutoZone and their one regulator they had in
> stock was "broken in the box." Not sure how she could look at it and
> tell... Anyway, left there and went to Pep Boys. They wanted $26 for
> a voltage regulator. Left, went to Advance Auto, they had one in
> stock for $9 and change. Came home, swapped it out, fired up Jeep,
> voltage jumped right up to a little over 14 V on the voltmeter gauge
> on the dash just like it did before the trouble started. Thanks to
> everyone who offered me help on this problem. Time to go try out that
> winch now... ;-D
>
> mini rant: WTF is up with parts stores around here?!?!? I'm used to
> buying most of my car parts online for that old VW I worked on so
> much. I might have to start doing that for the Jeep, too. I get sick
> of running around looking for parts for it. Today while I was out, I
> asked all 3 stores if they had a distributor cap or rotor for my Jeep.
> Of the 3 stores, *one* of them had a rotor in stock. So now I have
> plugs and a rotor, still need a cap... maybe within the next few
> weeks one of the stores around here will get a cap in stock. *sigh*
> Or maybe I'll just order a couple of caps and rotors and plugs online
> and put them away for when I need them. The auto parts stores near me
> SUCK-DIDDLY-UCK!!! :-/
>
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




HomeBrewer 11-08-2003 03:42 PM

Re: Electrical woes continue. Help?
 
Hey, thats my jeep wiring....and my multi-meter.....that's my rug too!



"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6e8qqvck2anb30r21uvhp269uu4k9bjrri@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:53:21 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
> following:
>
> >Take the alternator back... I don't think they check the regulator. If

the
> >alternator checks OK get the regulator while your there. Swap them

leads...
> >make sure your on low ohm scale.

>
> Check out the wiring I'm dealing with:
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/temp/wiring.jpg
> I don't really have a "low scale" on my meter:
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/temp/multimeter.jpg
> That's a "hum dinger" meter, huh? :-)
>
>
> >
> >
> >JimG
> >
> >"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:d47qqvg3cf0jk4s4voj7cfnlgm9afoajn3@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:35:45 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
> >> following:
> >>
> >> >Is the voltage regulator separate or built into the alternator? Try
> >> >reversing the ohm meter leads (use low ohm scale)... if it's still

zero,
> >I
> >> >would think that's bad. Take it back have them check it anyway just

to
> >rule
> >> >that out.
> >>
> >> It's separate. But the tests I did per the Haynes manual say the
> >> alternator is faulty. ? You mean take it back and have them check
> >> the alternator again? Or the voltage regulator? Does AutoZone test
> >> your voltage regulator? I hope it was just the regulator that was bad
> >> since that would take all of 2 minutes to swap out. :-) I'm just
> >> concerned because of what I found by following the step-by-step
> >> instructions in the Haynes manual.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Travis
> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> >> :wq!

> >

>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!




HomeBrewer 11-08-2003 03:42 PM

Re: Electrical woes continue. Help?
 
Hey, thats my jeep wiring....and my multi-meter.....that's my rug too!



"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6e8qqvck2anb30r21uvhp269uu4k9bjrri@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:53:21 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
> following:
>
> >Take the alternator back... I don't think they check the regulator. If

the
> >alternator checks OK get the regulator while your there. Swap them

leads...
> >make sure your on low ohm scale.

>
> Check out the wiring I'm dealing with:
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/temp/wiring.jpg
> I don't really have a "low scale" on my meter:
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/temp/multimeter.jpg
> That's a "hum dinger" meter, huh? :-)
>
>
> >
> >
> >JimG
> >
> >"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:d47qqvg3cf0jk4s4voj7cfnlgm9afoajn3@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 16:35:45 GMT, "JimG" <jimg@cj7.com> shared the
> >> following:
> >>
> >> >Is the voltage regulator separate or built into the alternator? Try
> >> >reversing the ohm meter leads (use low ohm scale)... if it's still

zero,
> >I
> >> >would think that's bad. Take it back have them check it anyway just

to
> >rule
> >> >that out.
> >>
> >> It's separate. But the tests I did per the Haynes manual say the
> >> alternator is faulty. ? You mean take it back and have them check
> >> the alternator again? Or the voltage regulator? Does AutoZone test
> >> your voltage regulator? I hope it was just the regulator that was bad
> >> since that would take all of 2 minutes to swap out. :-) I'm just
> >> concerned because of what I found by following the step-by-step
> >> instructions in the Haynes manual.
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Travis
> >> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> >> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> >> :wq!

> >

>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!





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