Re: Electrical problem no. 2
 

jerryg wrote:
> On Jul 21, 8:50 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> jerryg wrote:
>>> What could be draining my battery when the vehicle is not running? I
>>> noticed the dome stays on constantly. I can jump start it and it runs.
>>> But last night when I turned off the engine, then shut the headlights
>>> off, the head lights started to come back on, but very dimly. I know
>>> it sounds like a ghost story, but could a bad head light switch be my
>>> culprit. By the way, it is an 86 XJ.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Greg
>> Yes, it could be worn out.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> I pulled the switch out and realized the plastic plug that interfaces
> with the switch at some point melted. So I put it back together, and
> had to jump start the Jeep. It started, but when I removed the Jumper
> cables from the battery, the engine immediately quit. Why would it do
> that?
>
> Greg
>

Well you have located your problem. The switch must also be just as
melted as the plug.

I have cut those plugs apart and put individual new spade connectors
onto the wires to mate up with the new switch. Either that or a junk
yard crawl is in order looking for a new harness pigtail.

If your battery is 'really' low, the engine computer shuts off.

Continual draining of an older battery can actually kill it.

Mike

Re: Electrical problem no. 2
 

On Jul 22, 9:57 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> jerryg wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 8:50 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> jerryg wrote:
> >>> What could be draining my battery when the vehicle is not running? I
> >>> noticed the dome stays on constantly. I can jump start it and it runs.
> >>> But last night when I turned off the engine, then shut the headlights
> >>> off, the head lights started to come back on, but very dimly. I know
> >>> it sounds like a ghost story, but could a bad head light switch be my
> >>> culprit. By the way, it is an 86 XJ.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Greg
> >> Yes, it could be worn out.
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > I pulled the switch out and realized the plastic plug that interfaces
> > with the switch at some point melted. So I put it back together, and
> > had to jump start the Jeep. It started, but when I removed the Jumper
> > cables from the battery, the engine immediately quit. Why would it do
> > that?
>
> > Greg
>
> Well you have located your problem. The switch must also be just as
> melted as the plug.
>
> I have cut those plugs apart and put individual new spade connectors
> onto the wires to mate up with the new switch. Either that or a junk
> yard crawl is in order looking for a new harness pigtail.
>
> If your battery is 'really' low, the engine computer shuts off.
>
> Continual draining of an older battery can actually kill it.
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The switch is not melted at all. My question is, why when I put it
back in, jump started the vehicle it started. When I removed the
jumper cable, the engine stalled.

Greg

Re: Electrical problem no. 2
 

On Jul 22, 9:57 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> jerryg wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 8:50 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> jerryg wrote:
> >>> What could be draining my battery when the vehicle is not running? I
> >>> noticed the dome stays on constantly. I can jump start it and it runs.
> >>> But last night when I turned off the engine, then shut the headlights
> >>> off, the head lights started to come back on, but very dimly. I know
> >>> it sounds like a ghost story, but could a bad head light switch be my
> >>> culprit. By the way, it is an 86 XJ.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Greg
> >> Yes, it could be worn out.
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > I pulled the switch out and realized the plastic plug that interfaces
> > with the switch at some point melted. So I put it back together, and
> > had to jump start the Jeep. It started, but when I removed the Jumper
> > cables from the battery, the engine immediately quit. Why would it do
> > that?
>
> > Greg
>
> Well you have located your problem. The switch must also be just as
> melted as the plug.
>
> I have cut those plugs apart and put individual new spade connectors
> onto the wires to mate up with the new switch. Either that or a junk
> yard crawl is in order looking for a new harness pigtail.
>
> If your battery is 'really' low, the engine computer shuts off.
>
> Continual draining of an older battery can actually kill it.
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The switch is not melted at all. My question is, why when I put it
back in, jump started the vehicle it started. When I removed the
jumper cable, the engine stalled.

Greg

Re: Electrical problem no. 2
 

On Jul 22, 9:57 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> jerryg wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 8:50 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> jerryg wrote:
> >>> What could be draining my battery when the vehicle is not running? I
> >>> noticed the dome stays on constantly. I can jump start it and it runs.
> >>> But last night when I turned off the engine, then shut the headlights
> >>> off, the head lights started to come back on, but very dimly. I know
> >>> it sounds like a ghost story, but could a bad head light switch be my
> >>> culprit. By the way, it is an 86 XJ.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Greg
> >> Yes, it could be worn out.
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > I pulled the switch out and realized the plastic plug that interfaces
> > with the switch at some point melted. So I put it back together, and
> > had to jump start the Jeep. It started, but when I removed the Jumper
> > cables from the battery, the engine immediately quit. Why would it do
> > that?
>
> > Greg
>
> Well you have located your problem. The switch must also be just as
> melted as the plug.
>
> I have cut those plugs apart and put individual new spade connectors
> onto the wires to mate up with the new switch. Either that or a junk
> yard crawl is in order looking for a new harness pigtail.
>
> If your battery is 'really' low, the engine computer shuts off.
>
> Continual draining of an older battery can actually kill it.
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The switch is not melted at all. My question is, why when I put it
back in, jump started the vehicle it started. When I removed the
jumper cable, the engine stalled.

Greg

Re: Electrical problem no. 2
 

On Jul 22, 9:57 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> jerryg wrote:
> > On Jul 21, 8:50 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> jerryg wrote:
> >>> What could be draining my battery when the vehicle is not running? I
> >>> noticed the dome stays on constantly. I can jump start it and it runs.
> >>> But last night when I turned off the engine, then shut the headlights
> >>> off, the head lights started to come back on, but very dimly. I know
> >>> it sounds like a ghost story, but could a bad head light switch be my
> >>> culprit. By the way, it is an 86 XJ.
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Greg
> >> Yes, it could be worn out.
>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > I pulled the switch out and realized the plastic plug that interfaces
> > with the switch at some point melted. So I put it back together, and
> > had to jump start the Jeep. It started, but when I removed the Jumper
> > cables from the battery, the engine immediately quit. Why would it do
> > that?
>
> > Greg
>
> Well you have located your problem. The switch must also be just as
> melted as the plug.
>
> I have cut those plugs apart and put individual new spade connectors
> onto the wires to mate up with the new switch. Either that or a junk
> yard crawl is in order looking for a new harness pigtail.
>
> If your battery is 'really' low, the engine computer shuts off.
>
> Continual draining of an older battery can actually kill it.
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The switch is not melted at all. My question is, why when I put it
back in, jump started the vehicle it started. When I removed the
jumper cable, the engine stalled.

Greg

Re: Electrical problem no. 2
 

On Jul 22, 10:03 am, jerryg <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 9:57 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > jerryg wrote:
> > > On Jul 21, 8:50 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >> jerryg wrote:
> > >>> What could be draining my battery when the vehicle is not running? I
> > >>> noticed the dome stays on constantly. I can jump start it and it runs.
> > >>> But last night when I turned off the engine, then shut the headlights
> > >>> off, the head lights started to come back on, but very dimly. I know
> > >>> it sounds like a ghost story, but could a bad head light switch be my
> > >>> culprit. By the way, it is an 86 XJ.
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Greg
> > >> Yes, it could be worn out.
>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > > I pulled the switch out and realized the plastic plug that interfaces
> > > with the switch at some point melted. So I put it back together, and
> > > had to jump start the Jeep. It started, but when I removed the Jumper
> > > cables from the battery, the engine immediately quit. Why would it do
> > > that?
>
> > > Greg
>
> > Well you have located your problem. The switch must also be just as
> > melted as the plug.
>
> > I have cut those plugs apart and put individual new spade connectors
> > onto the wires to mate up with the new switch. Either that or a junk
> > yard crawl is in order looking for a new harness pigtail.
>
> > If your battery is 'really' low, the engine computer shuts off.
>
> > Continual draining of an older battery can actually kill it.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The switch is not melted at all. My question is, why when I put it
> back in, jump started the vehicle it started. When I removed the
> jumper cable, the engine stalled.
>
> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well it must be the battery is shot. It starts fine with a jump. I
thought it was the switch somehow.

Thanks alot.
Greg

Re: Electrical problem no. 2
 

On Jul 22, 10:03 am, jerryg <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 9:57 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > jerryg wrote:
> > > On Jul 21, 8:50 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >> jerryg wrote:
> > >>> What could be draining my battery when the vehicle is not running? I
> > >>> noticed the dome stays on constantly. I can jump start it and it runs.
> > >>> But last night when I turned off the engine, then shut the headlights
> > >>> off, the head lights started to come back on, but very dimly. I know
> > >>> it sounds like a ghost story, but could a bad head light switch be my
> > >>> culprit. By the way, it is an 86 XJ.
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Greg
> > >> Yes, it could be worn out.
>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > > I pulled the switch out and realized the plastic plug that interfaces
> > > with the switch at some point melted. So I put it back together, and
> > > had to jump start the Jeep. It started, but when I removed the Jumper
> > > cables from the battery, the engine immediately quit. Why would it do
> > > that?
>
> > > Greg
>
> > Well you have located your problem. The switch must also be just as
> > melted as the plug.
>
> > I have cut those plugs apart and put individual new spade connectors
> > onto the wires to mate up with the new switch. Either that or a junk
> > yard crawl is in order looking for a new harness pigtail.
>
> > If your battery is 'really' low, the engine computer shuts off.
>
> > Continual draining of an older battery can actually kill it.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The switch is not melted at all. My question is, why when I put it
> back in, jump started the vehicle it started. When I removed the
> jumper cable, the engine stalled.
>
> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well it must be the battery is shot. It starts fine with a jump. I
thought it was the switch somehow.

Thanks alot.
Greg

Re: Electrical problem no. 2
 

On Jul 22, 10:03 am, jerryg <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 9:57 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > jerryg wrote:
> > > On Jul 21, 8:50 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >> jerryg wrote:
> > >>> What could be draining my battery when the vehicle is not running? I
> > >>> noticed the dome stays on constantly. I can jump start it and it runs.
> > >>> But last night when I turned off the engine, then shut the headlights
> > >>> off, the head lights started to come back on, but very dimly. I know
> > >>> it sounds like a ghost story, but could a bad head light switch be my
> > >>> culprit. By the way, it is an 86 XJ.
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Greg
> > >> Yes, it could be worn out.
>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > > I pulled the switch out and realized the plastic plug that interfaces
> > > with the switch at some point melted. So I put it back together, and
> > > had to jump start the Jeep. It started, but when I removed the Jumper
> > > cables from the battery, the engine immediately quit. Why would it do
> > > that?
>
> > > Greg
>
> > Well you have located your problem. The switch must also be just as
> > melted as the plug.
>
> > I have cut those plugs apart and put individual new spade connectors
> > onto the wires to mate up with the new switch. Either that or a junk
> > yard crawl is in order looking for a new harness pigtail.
>
> > If your battery is 'really' low, the engine computer shuts off.
>
> > Continual draining of an older battery can actually kill it.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The switch is not melted at all. My question is, why when I put it
> back in, jump started the vehicle it started. When I removed the
> jumper cable, the engine stalled.
>
> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well it must be the battery is shot. It starts fine with a jump. I
thought it was the switch somehow.

Thanks alot.
Greg

Re: Electrical problem no. 2
 

On Jul 22, 10:03 am, jerryg <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jul 22, 9:57 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > jerryg wrote:
> > > On Jul 21, 8:50 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >> jerryg wrote:
> > >>> What could be draining my battery when the vehicle is not running? I
> > >>> noticed the dome stays on constantly. I can jump start it and it runs.
> > >>> But last night when I turned off the engine, then shut the headlights
> > >>> off, the head lights started to come back on, but very dimly. I know
> > >>> it sounds like a ghost story, but could a bad head light switch be my
> > >>> culprit. By the way, it is an 86 XJ.
> > >>> Thanks,
> > >>> Greg
> > >> Yes, it could be worn out.
>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> > > I pulled the switch out and realized the plastic plug that interfaces
> > > with the switch at some point melted. So I put it back together, and
> > > had to jump start the Jeep. It started, but when I removed the Jumper
> > > cables from the battery, the engine immediately quit. Why would it do
> > > that?
>
> > > Greg
>
> > Well you have located your problem. The switch must also be just as
> > melted as the plug.
>
> > I have cut those plugs apart and put individual new spade connectors
> > onto the wires to mate up with the new switch. Either that or a junk
> > yard crawl is in order looking for a new harness pigtail.
>
> > If your battery is 'really' low, the engine computer shuts off.
>
> > Continual draining of an older battery can actually kill it.
>
> > Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> The switch is not melted at all. My question is, why when I put it
> back in, jump started the vehicle it started. When I removed the
> jumper cable, the engine stalled.
>
> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well it must be the battery is shot. It starts fine with a jump. I
thought it was the switch somehow.

Thanks alot.
Greg

Re: Electrical problem no. 2
 

jerryg wrote:
> On Jul 22, 10:03 am, jerryg <Greggi...@msn.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 22, 9:57 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> jerryg wrote:
>>>> On Jul 21, 8:50 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>> jerryg wrote:
>>>>>> What could be draining my battery when the vehicle is not running? I
>>>>>> noticed the dome stays on constantly. I can jump start it and it runs.
>>>>>> But last night when I turned off the engine, then shut the headlights
>>>>>> off, the head lights started to come back on, but very dimly. I know
>>>>>> it sounds like a ghost story, but could a bad head light switch be my
>>>>>> culprit. By the way, it is an 86 XJ.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>> Yes, it could be worn out.
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>>>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>> I pulled the switch out and realized the plastic plug that interfaces
>>>> with the switch at some point melted. So I put it back together, and
>>>> had to jump start the Jeep. It started, but when I removed the Jumper
>>>> cables from the battery, the engine immediately quit. Why would it do
>>>> that?
>>>> Greg
>>> Well you have located your problem. The switch must also be just as
>>> melted as the plug.
>>> I have cut those plugs apart and put individual new spade connectors
>>> onto the wires to mate up with the new switch. Either that or a junk
>>> yard crawl is in order looking for a new harness pigtail.
>>> If your battery is 'really' low, the engine computer shuts off.
>>> Continual draining of an older battery can actually kill it.
>>> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -
>> The switch is not melted at all. My question is, why when I put it
>> back in, jump started the vehicle it started. When I removed the
>> jumper cable, the engine stalled.
>>
>> Greg- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Well it must be the battery is shot. It starts fine with a jump. I
> thought it was the switch somehow.
>
> Thanks alot.
> Greg
>

You can always just unplug the switch to make sure it isn't shorting.

And 'if' the plug got hot enough to melt, 100% for sure the switch is
damaged. Your symptoms prove that.

Mike