kevin

Has anyone tried painting a jeep with one of the wagner airless spray
guns. I would be using lusterless OD paint.

Thanks

DougW

kevin wrote:
> Has anyone tried painting a jeep with one of the wagner airless spray
> guns. I would be using lusterless OD paint.

Those guns are made for spraying housepaint. Now if your using Glidden
to paint your jeep it probably would work.

(in other words, the tip is wrong, automotive paint is thinner than
house paint you would wind up hosing your jeep with paint)

--
DougW

DougW

kevin wrote:
> Has anyone tried painting a jeep with one of the wagner airless spray
> guns. I would be using lusterless OD paint.

Those guns are made for spraying housepaint. Now if your using Glidden
to paint your jeep it probably would work.

(in other words, the tip is wrong, automotive paint is thinner than
house paint you would wind up hosing your jeep with paint)

--
DougW

kevin

c wrote:
> "kevin" <kevin@el.net> wrote in message
> news:zSF6b.375$mp.546@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
>
>>Has anyone tried painting a jeep with one of the wagner airless spray
>>guns. I would be using lusterless OD paint.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>
>
> Not recommended. Those guns are made for thicker house paint like another
> poster mentioned. If you don't have the tools for the job, check with a
> local rental store to see if they have the tools for the job. I just called
> our local store and asked about it, and they said it would be $42 to rent an
> HVLP gun and compressor for the weekend. This would give a person from
> Friday afternoon until Monday morning to complete the job.
>
> HTH
> Chris
>
>
Sounds cheap enough. Thanks

kevin

c wrote:
> "kevin" <kevin@el.net> wrote in message
> news:zSF6b.375$mp.546@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...
>
>>Has anyone tried painting a jeep with one of the wagner airless spray
>>guns. I would be using lusterless OD paint.
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>
>
> Not recommended. Those guns are made for thicker house paint like another
> poster mentioned. If you don't have the tools for the job, check with a
> local rental store to see if they have the tools for the job. I just called
> our local store and asked about it, and they said it would be $42 to rent an
> HVLP gun and compressor for the weekend. This would give a person from
> Friday afternoon until Monday morning to complete the job.
>
> HTH
> Chris
>
>
Sounds cheap enough. Thanks

kevin

DougW wrote:
> kevin wrote:
>
>>Has anyone tried painting a jeep with one of the wagner airless spray
>>guns. I would be using lusterless OD paint.
>
>
> Those guns are made for spraying housepaint. Now if your using Glidden
> to paint your jeep it probably would work.
>
> (in other words, the tip is wrong, automotive paint is thinner than
> house paint you would wind up hosing your jeep with paint)
>
Thanks. Guess I need to rent a compressor and HVLP gun.

kevin

DougW wrote:
> kevin wrote:
>
>>Has anyone tried painting a jeep with one of the wagner airless spray
>>guns. I would be using lusterless OD paint.
>
>
> Those guns are made for spraying housepaint. Now if your using Glidden
> to paint your jeep it probably would work.
>
> (in other words, the tip is wrong, automotive paint is thinner than
> house paint you would wind up hosing your jeep with paint)
>
Thanks. Guess I need to rent a compressor and HVLP gun.

Cal Wheeler

kevin wrote:

> DougW wrote:
>
>> kevin wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried painting a jeep with one of the wagner airless spray
>>> guns. I would be using lusterless OD paint.
>>
>>
>>
>> Those guns are made for spraying housepaint. Now if your using Glidden
>> to paint your jeep it probably would work.
>>
>> (in other words, the tip is wrong, automotive paint is thinner than
>> house paint you would wind up hosing your jeep with paint)
>>
> Thanks. Guess I need to rent a compressor and HVLP gun.
>

IMHO, you should _really_ practice on something else besides your Jeep
first. Even with the right equipment, you've still got to get the right
amount of prep work, a feel for how much to thin the paint for spraying,
how to clean the gun between batches, and the best methods and combos of
pressure, flow, and spray technique for the best finish.

I just did my own Herculiner on my YJ interior, and I know I didn't do
as good a job as a seasoned pro would do. But that was the interior, and
I didn't care too much how it looked. Dark and bumpy, so what! I
wouldn't try tackling painting the exterior if I was a novice though,
and expect beautiful results.

Cal Wheeler

kevin wrote:

> DougW wrote:
>
>> kevin wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried painting a jeep with one of the wagner airless spray
>>> guns. I would be using lusterless OD paint.
>>
>>
>>
>> Those guns are made for spraying housepaint. Now if your using Glidden
>> to paint your jeep it probably would work.
>>
>> (in other words, the tip is wrong, automotive paint is thinner than
>> house paint you would wind up hosing your jeep with paint)
>>
> Thanks. Guess I need to rent a compressor and HVLP gun.
>

IMHO, you should _really_ practice on something else besides your Jeep
first. Even with the right equipment, you've still got to get the right
amount of prep work, a feel for how much to thin the paint for spraying,
how to clean the gun between batches, and the best methods and combos of
pressure, flow, and spray technique for the best finish.

I just did my own Herculiner on my YJ interior, and I know I didn't do
as good a job as a seasoned pro would do. But that was the interior, and
I didn't care too much how it looked. Dark and bumpy, so what! I
wouldn't try tackling painting the exterior if I was a novice though,
and expect beautiful results.

c

"Cal Wheeler" <cal@whee.ler> wrote in message
news:bjh2l7$het$0@pita.alt.net...
> kevin wrote:
>
> > DougW wrote:
> >
> >> kevin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Has anyone tried painting a jeep with one of the wagner airless spray
> >>> guns. I would be using lusterless OD paint.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Those guns are made for spraying housepaint. Now if your using Glidden
> >> to paint your jeep it probably would work.
> >>
> >> (in other words, the tip is wrong, automotive paint is thinner than
> >> house paint you would wind up hosing your jeep with paint)
> >>
> > Thanks. Guess I need to rent a compressor and HVLP gun.
> >
>
> IMHO, you should _really_ practice on something else besides your Jeep
> first. Even with the right equipment, you've still got to get the right
> amount of prep work, a feel for how much to thin the paint for spraying,
> how to clean the gun between batches, and the best methods and combos of
> pressure, flow, and spray technique for the best finish.
>
> I just did my own Herculiner on my YJ interior, and I know I didn't do
> as good a job as a seasoned pro would do. But that was the interior, and
> I didn't care too much how it looked. Dark and bumpy, so what! I
> wouldn't try tackling painting the exterior if I was a novice though,
> and expect beautiful results.
>

This is very true. I should have pointed that out in my post about renting
the equipment. I painted my truck which was my first time painting a
vehicle. I had a friend get me set up and then he ran out of the garage due
to the sever reactions he has to isocyanides. I feel that painting was
actually very easy. All of the prep work is, to me, what makes the paint
job. The most critical thing about spraying with an HVLP gun is the air
pressure. If the paint looks dry as soon as it hits the panel, this is too
much air pressure. I believe I sprayed at about 18PSI. I used PPG base/clear
paint which may not matter, but I have been told that certain types of
paints are easier to spray than others which makes sense to me. If you want
to see the truck (not a Jeep, but at least I used a Chrysler color :-)) you
can see it here: http://tinyurl.com/mlf8

I did my practicing when I painted inside the cab and also on an old hood.
The paint actually went on really easy. I had tried to paint while just
messing around a few years ago, and it was much more difficult. I don't know
if the difference was the gun or the paint, but both were different in the
first attempt. My paint is by no means perfect on this truck, but I do get a
lot of compliments about it. As far as mixing the paint and chemicals, I
just followed the instructions.

I'm no expert on the subject, but here are some important pointers:

Try to spray when it is 60-70 degrees wherever you are painting.
If it is humid (over 70%) there's a good chance the paint will appear cloudy
if you spray it.
If there is one single bug (fly, etc.) in your paint area, it WILL land
right in the middle of the hood just to **** you off.
Make absolutely sure that your Jeep is free of dust when you spray or you'll
have that nice non-skid look.
Make sure the compressor is free of oil and water in the tank and lines.
Remember that a paint job is only as good as the prep work that is
underneath it.
It's a good idea to let the primer "cure" for about a week or so to allow
all of the solvents to escape.
Read as much as you can about painting a vehicle. Google is your friend.
If you are painting the vehicle disassembled, make sure everything fits
together BEFORE you paint it.

Doug, I commend you for trying to do this yourself. There is no way we can
learn some things without doing them. Will your paint job be show quality?
Probably not. But IMO you have done something to better knowledge, and the
next time you do this, you'll be that much better at it.

Sorry for the long post.
Chris