Dual battery installations
#11
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Re: Dual battery installations
True
JimG
"----" <r------33@cableone.net> wrote in message
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> That wouldn't be possible (if you don't have a switch or solenoid)
> unless you have a diode isolator between the two batteries.
> Otherwise, they both would have a common connection at the alternator,
> and would be in parallel.
>
> ----
>
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:02:00 -0500, Ron Croonenberg <ronc@depauw.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> >and works really well.
> >
> >basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> >(yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> >but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> >have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> >I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> >car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> >as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> >Ron
>
JimG
"----" <r------33@cableone.net> wrote in message
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> That wouldn't be possible (if you don't have a switch or solenoid)
> unless you have a diode isolator between the two batteries.
> Otherwise, they both would have a common connection at the alternator,
> and would be in parallel.
>
> ----
>
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:02:00 -0500, Ron Croonenberg <ronc@depauw.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> >and works really well.
> >
> >basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> >(yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> >but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> >have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> >I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> >car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> >as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> >Ron
>
#12
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Re: Dual battery installations
True
JimG
"----" <r------33@cableone.net> wrote in message
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> That wouldn't be possible (if you don't have a switch or solenoid)
> unless you have a diode isolator between the two batteries.
> Otherwise, they both would have a common connection at the alternator,
> and would be in parallel.
>
> ----
>
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:02:00 -0500, Ron Croonenberg <ronc@depauw.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> >and works really well.
> >
> >basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> >(yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> >but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> >have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> >I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> >car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> >as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> >Ron
>
JimG
"----" <r------33@cableone.net> wrote in message
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> That wouldn't be possible (if you don't have a switch or solenoid)
> unless you have a diode isolator between the two batteries.
> Otherwise, they both would have a common connection at the alternator,
> and would be in parallel.
>
> ----
>
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:02:00 -0500, Ron Croonenberg <ronc@depauw.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> >and works really well.
> >
> >basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> >(yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> >but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> >have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> >I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> >car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> >as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> >Ron
>
#13
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Re: Dual battery installations
True
JimG
"----" <r------33@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:ieio109gvh5lc8dcvcc6fj42i6i8aidhc9@4ax.com...
> That wouldn't be possible (if you don't have a switch or solenoid)
> unless you have a diode isolator between the two batteries.
> Otherwise, they both would have a common connection at the alternator,
> and would be in parallel.
>
> ----
>
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:02:00 -0500, Ron Croonenberg <ronc@depauw.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> >and works really well.
> >
> >basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> >(yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> >but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> >have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> >I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> >car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> >as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> >Ron
>
JimG
"----" <r------33@cableone.net> wrote in message
news:ieio109gvh5lc8dcvcc6fj42i6i8aidhc9@4ax.com...
> That wouldn't be possible (if you don't have a switch or solenoid)
> unless you have a diode isolator between the two batteries.
> Otherwise, they both would have a common connection at the alternator,
> and would be in parallel.
>
> ----
>
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 17:02:00 -0500, Ron Croonenberg <ronc@depauw.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> >and works really well.
> >
> >basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> >(yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> >but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> >have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> >I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> >car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> >as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> >Ron
>
#14
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Re: Dual battery installations
That's a basic isolator setup.
JimG
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
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> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
JimG
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
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> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#15
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Re: Dual battery installations
That's a basic isolator setup.
JimG
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:hSVSb.12970$wg2.5298@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
JimG
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:hSVSb.12970$wg2.5298@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#16
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Re: Dual battery installations
That's a basic isolator setup.
JimG
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:hSVSb.12970$wg2.5298@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
JimG
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:hSVSb.12970$wg2.5298@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#17
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Re: Dual battery installations
This page might help you out:
http://www.hellroaring.com/rv.htm#Basic%20Auxiliary
Chris
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:hSVSb.12970$wg2.5298@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
http://www.hellroaring.com/rv.htm#Basic%20Auxiliary
Chris
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:hSVSb.12970$wg2.5298@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#18
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Posts: n/a
Re: Dual battery installations
This page might help you out:
http://www.hellroaring.com/rv.htm#Basic%20Auxiliary
Chris
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:hSVSb.12970$wg2.5298@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
http://www.hellroaring.com/rv.htm#Basic%20Auxiliary
Chris
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:hSVSb.12970$wg2.5298@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#19
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Re: Dual battery installations
This page might help you out:
http://www.hellroaring.com/rv.htm#Basic%20Auxiliary
Chris
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:hSVSb.12970$wg2.5298@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
http://www.hellroaring.com/rv.htm#Basic%20Auxiliary
Chris
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:hSVSb.12970$wg2.5298@newssvr24.news.prodigy.c om...
> Do you still have a URL for those directions?
>
> Ron Croonenberg wrote:
>
> > there is also a setup (found it on the net) I have it for a few years
> > and works really well.
> >
> > basically I have a red top optima as a "car" battery, and a deep cycle
> > (yellow top optima) for the winch. both get charged by the alternator,
> > but they get used "seperately" (when the yellow one has drained I still
> > have the red one, and the other way around.)
> >
> > I don't have a switch to switch between them, the red one is dedicated
> > car battery, the yellow on is dedicated winch battery.
> >
> > as I mentioned I found the schematics on the net.
> >
> > Ron
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
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Re: Dual battery installations
Oh, ok...thanks!
c wrote:
> This page might help you out:
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> http://www.hellroaring.com/rv.htm#Basic%20Auxiliary
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> Chris
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03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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c wrote:
> This page might help you out:
>
> http://www.hellroaring.com/rv.htm#Basic%20Auxiliary
>
> Chris
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: probably from g. p. (abbreviation of general purpose)
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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