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CG 05-27-2004 10:25 PM

Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Hi gang,

I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
weather.

Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
interior ;) ).

OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
want to do so this Summer.

I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
nicely as the factory top.

So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
back on?

Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)

-- Chris G.

David C. Moller 05-28-2004 12:53 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Wish I could answer, but I've never seen a need for any other top
other than the OEM one. Just a couple mins up or down, what's the
point for any other top?

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:

>Hi gang,
>
>I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
>soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
>removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
>turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
>weather.
>
>Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
>would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
>It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
>go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
>interior ;) ).
>
>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.
>
>So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
>easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
>back on?
>
>Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
>this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
>-- Chris G.



David C. Moller 05-28-2004 12:53 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Wish I could answer, but I've never seen a need for any other top
other than the OEM one. Just a couple mins up or down, what's the
point for any other top?

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:

>Hi gang,
>
>I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
>soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
>removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
>turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
>weather.
>
>Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
>would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
>It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
>go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
>interior ;) ).
>
>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.
>
>So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
>easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
>back on?
>
>Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
>this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
>-- Chris G.



David C. Moller 05-28-2004 12:53 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Wish I could answer, but I've never seen a need for any other top
other than the OEM one. Just a couple mins up or down, what's the
point for any other top?

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:

>Hi gang,
>
>I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
>soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
>removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
>turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
>weather.
>
>Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
>would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
>It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
>go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
>interior ;) ).
>
>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.
>
>So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
>easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
>back on?
>
>Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
>this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
>-- Chris G.



David C. Moller 05-28-2004 12:53 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Wish I could answer, but I've never seen a need for any other top
other than the OEM one. Just a couple mins up or down, what's the
point for any other top?

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:

>Hi gang,
>
>I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
>soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
>removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
>turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
>weather.
>
>Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
>would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
>It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
>go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
>interior ;) ).
>
>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.
>
>So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
>easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
>back on?
>
>Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
>this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
>-- Chris G.



Old Crow 05-28-2004 05:57 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:


>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.


I don't know about the Sunrider, but I don know that you have to take
the windows out of the factory top if you want to put it down. I
guess you could just roll up the back window, but it's just as easy to
take it out.
My son takes the canvas all the way off of his and just folds down the
frame. Doesn't take a whole lot longer to put back up, and sure looks
neater when it's down. If it ever quits raining here, I may try that.

--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Old Crow 05-28-2004 05:57 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:


>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.


I don't know about the Sunrider, but I don know that you have to take
the windows out of the factory top if you want to put it down. I
guess you could just roll up the back window, but it's just as easy to
take it out.
My son takes the canvas all the way off of his and just folds down the
frame. Doesn't take a whole lot longer to put back up, and sure looks
neater when it's down. If it ever quits raining here, I may try that.

--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Old Crow 05-28-2004 05:57 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:


>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.


I don't know about the Sunrider, but I don know that you have to take
the windows out of the factory top if you want to put it down. I
guess you could just roll up the back window, but it's just as easy to
take it out.
My son takes the canvas all the way off of his and just folds down the
frame. Doesn't take a whole lot longer to put back up, and sure looks
neater when it's down. If it ever quits raining here, I may try that.

--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Old Crow 05-28-2004 05:57 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:


>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.


I don't know about the Sunrider, but I don know that you have to take
the windows out of the factory top if you want to put it down. I
guess you could just roll up the back window, but it's just as easy to
take it out.
My son takes the canvas all the way off of his and just folds down the
frame. Doesn't take a whole lot longer to put back up, and sure looks
neater when it's down. If it ever quits raining here, I may try that.

--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

SB 05-28-2004 06:44 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd pull
them before dropping the top.
I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got kinked
and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and then
you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)

Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!


"CG" <nospam99992000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.c om...
> Hi gang,
>
> I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> weather.
>
> Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> interior ;) ).
>
> OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> want to do so this Summer.
>
> I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> nicely as the factory top.
>
> So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> back on?
>
> Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
> -- Chris G.




SB 05-28-2004 06:44 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd pull
them before dropping the top.
I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got kinked
and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and then
you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)

Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!


"CG" <nospam99992000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.c om...
> Hi gang,
>
> I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> weather.
>
> Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> interior ;) ).
>
> OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> want to do so this Summer.
>
> I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> nicely as the factory top.
>
> So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> back on?
>
> Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
> -- Chris G.




SB 05-28-2004 06:44 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd pull
them before dropping the top.
I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got kinked
and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and then
you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)

Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!


"CG" <nospam99992000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.c om...
> Hi gang,
>
> I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> weather.
>
> Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> interior ;) ).
>
> OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> want to do so this Summer.
>
> I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> nicely as the factory top.
>
> So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> back on?
>
> Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
> -- Chris G.




SB 05-28-2004 06:44 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd pull
them before dropping the top.
I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got kinked
and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and then
you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)

Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!


"CG" <nospam99992000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.c om...
> Hi gang,
>
> I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> weather.
>
> Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> interior ;) ).
>
> OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> want to do so this Summer.
>
> I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> nicely as the factory top.
>
> So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> back on?
>
> Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
> -- Chris G.




Deacon 05-28-2004 10:34 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
I have a Bestop Sunrider - I have never had the factory soft-top so I can't
compare, but the Sunrider is really easy to put down. I roll the back
window, remove the side windows, and it drops in like 5 seconds.

Deacon

In article <a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.com >,
nospam99992000@yahoo.com says...
>
>Hi gang,
>
>I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
>soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
>removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
>turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
>weather.
>
>Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
>would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
>It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
>go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
>interior ;) ).
>
>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.
>
>So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
>easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
>back on?
>
>Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
>this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
>-- Chris G.



Deacon 05-28-2004 10:34 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
I have a Bestop Sunrider - I have never had the factory soft-top so I can't
compare, but the Sunrider is really easy to put down. I roll the back
window, remove the side windows, and it drops in like 5 seconds.

Deacon

In article <a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.com >,
nospam99992000@yahoo.com says...
>
>Hi gang,
>
>I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
>soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
>removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
>turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
>weather.
>
>Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
>would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
>It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
>go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
>interior ;) ).
>
>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.
>
>So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
>easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
>back on?
>
>Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
>this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
>-- Chris G.



Deacon 05-28-2004 10:34 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
I have a Bestop Sunrider - I have never had the factory soft-top so I can't
compare, but the Sunrider is really easy to put down. I roll the back
window, remove the side windows, and it drops in like 5 seconds.

Deacon

In article <a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.com >,
nospam99992000@yahoo.com says...
>
>Hi gang,
>
>I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
>soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
>removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
>turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
>weather.
>
>Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
>would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
>It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
>go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
>interior ;) ).
>
>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.
>
>So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
>easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
>back on?
>
>Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
>this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
>-- Chris G.



Deacon 05-28-2004 10:34 AM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
I have a Bestop Sunrider - I have never had the factory soft-top so I can't
compare, but the Sunrider is really easy to put down. I roll the back
window, remove the side windows, and it drops in like 5 seconds.

Deacon

In article <a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.com >,
nospam99992000@yahoo.com says...
>
>Hi gang,
>
>I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
>soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
>removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
>turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
>weather.
>
>Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
>would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
>It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
>go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
>interior ;) ).
>
>OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
>the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
>all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
>never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
>the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
>want to do so this Summer.
>
>I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
>the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
>mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
>you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
>find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
>nicely as the factory top.
>
>So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
>easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
>back on?
>
>Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
>this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
>
>-- Chris G.



Fred W. 05-28-2004 12:04 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

pull
> them before dropping the top.
> I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

kinked
> and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

then
> you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
>
> Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
> back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!


I do this all the time with my Bestop Supertop. Just unzip the side windows
and fold them across the top, leave the rear window zipped right in (or roll
it up if you want), then fold the top in halves until small enough to fit
behind the seat, then fold the frame back and secure with the elastic
straps. Side windows are sandwiched in the top and are protected. The rear
window hasn't seemed to get scratched up much yet either, though if you do
take the time to roll it it would be less likely to.

-Fred W



Fred W. 05-28-2004 12:04 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

pull
> them before dropping the top.
> I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

kinked
> and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

then
> you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
>
> Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
> back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!


I do this all the time with my Bestop Supertop. Just unzip the side windows
and fold them across the top, leave the rear window zipped right in (or roll
it up if you want), then fold the top in halves until small enough to fit
behind the seat, then fold the frame back and secure with the elastic
straps. Side windows are sandwiched in the top and are protected. The rear
window hasn't seemed to get scratched up much yet either, though if you do
take the time to roll it it would be less likely to.

-Fred W



Fred W. 05-28-2004 12:04 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

pull
> them before dropping the top.
> I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

kinked
> and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

then
> you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
>
> Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
> back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!


I do this all the time with my Bestop Supertop. Just unzip the side windows
and fold them across the top, leave the rear window zipped right in (or roll
it up if you want), then fold the top in halves until small enough to fit
behind the seat, then fold the frame back and secure with the elastic
straps. Side windows are sandwiched in the top and are protected. The rear
window hasn't seemed to get scratched up much yet either, though if you do
take the time to roll it it would be less likely to.

-Fred W



Fred W. 05-28-2004 12:04 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

pull
> them before dropping the top.
> I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

kinked
> and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

then
> you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
>
> Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
> back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!


I do this all the time with my Bestop Supertop. Just unzip the side windows
and fold them across the top, leave the rear window zipped right in (or roll
it up if you want), then fold the top in halves until small enough to fit
behind the seat, then fold the frame back and secure with the elastic
straps. Side windows are sandwiched in the top and are protected. The rear
window hasn't seemed to get scratched up much yet either, though if you do
take the time to roll it it would be less likely to.

-Fred W



Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:12 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Fred,

Are you saying that you take the soft top off of the frame and fold it up
and store it behind the seats? Or, do you leave the soft top material on the
frame and fold it back?

-- Chris G.

"Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:zq-dncNrTf1u_yrdRVn-uA@adelphia.com...
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> > if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

> pull
> > them before dropping the top.
> > I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

> kinked
> > and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> > I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

> then
> > you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
> >
> > Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> > quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> > extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to

zip'em
> > back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!

>
> I do this all the time with my Bestop Supertop. Just unzip the side

windows
> and fold them across the top, leave the rear window zipped right in (or

roll
> it up if you want), then fold the top in halves until small enough to fit
> behind the seat, then fold the frame back and secure with the elastic
> straps. Side windows are sandwiched in the top and are protected. The

rear
> window hasn't seemed to get scratched up much yet either, though if you do
> take the time to roll it it would be less likely to.
>
> -Fred W
>
>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:12 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Fred,

Are you saying that you take the soft top off of the frame and fold it up
and store it behind the seats? Or, do you leave the soft top material on the
frame and fold it back?

-- Chris G.

"Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:zq-dncNrTf1u_yrdRVn-uA@adelphia.com...
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> > if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

> pull
> > them before dropping the top.
> > I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

> kinked
> > and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> > I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

> then
> > you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
> >
> > Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> > quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> > extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to

zip'em
> > back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!

>
> I do this all the time with my Bestop Supertop. Just unzip the side

windows
> and fold them across the top, leave the rear window zipped right in (or

roll
> it up if you want), then fold the top in halves until small enough to fit
> behind the seat, then fold the frame back and secure with the elastic
> straps. Side windows are sandwiched in the top and are protected. The

rear
> window hasn't seemed to get scratched up much yet either, though if you do
> take the time to roll it it would be less likely to.
>
> -Fred W
>
>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:12 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Fred,

Are you saying that you take the soft top off of the frame and fold it up
and store it behind the seats? Or, do you leave the soft top material on the
frame and fold it back?

-- Chris G.

"Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:zq-dncNrTf1u_yrdRVn-uA@adelphia.com...
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> > if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

> pull
> > them before dropping the top.
> > I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

> kinked
> > and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> > I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

> then
> > you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
> >
> > Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> > quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> > extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to

zip'em
> > back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!

>
> I do this all the time with my Bestop Supertop. Just unzip the side

windows
> and fold them across the top, leave the rear window zipped right in (or

roll
> it up if you want), then fold the top in halves until small enough to fit
> behind the seat, then fold the frame back and secure with the elastic
> straps. Side windows are sandwiched in the top and are protected. The

rear
> window hasn't seemed to get scratched up much yet either, though if you do
> take the time to roll it it would be less likely to.
>
> -Fred W
>
>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:12 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Fred,

Are you saying that you take the soft top off of the frame and fold it up
and store it behind the seats? Or, do you leave the soft top material on the
frame and fold it back?

-- Chris G.

"Fred W." <Fred.Wills@allspam myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:zq-dncNrTf1u_yrdRVn-uA@adelphia.com...
>
> "SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> > if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

> pull
> > them before dropping the top.
> > I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

> kinked
> > and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> > I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

> then
> > you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
> >
> > Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> > quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> > extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to

zip'em
> > back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!

>
> I do this all the time with my Bestop Supertop. Just unzip the side

windows
> and fold them across the top, leave the rear window zipped right in (or

roll
> it up if you want), then fold the top in halves until small enough to fit
> behind the seat, then fold the frame back and secure with the elastic
> straps. Side windows are sandwiched in the top and are protected. The

rear
> window hasn't seemed to get scratched up much yet either, though if you do
> take the time to roll it it would be less likely to.
>
> -Fred W
>
>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:16 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Deacon,

Thanks for the reply!

How do you keep the rear window rolled up? The factory top has elastic
straps with snaps that make it easy to roll up the rear window.

So just to be clear, all you do is remove the side windows (which I
figured), roll up the rear window, and you leave the fabric connected to the
frame? Then you just drop back the fabric and frame?

If it is that easy, I will keep the Sunrider on this Summer.

-- Chris G.

"Deacon" <deacon@clark.net> wrote in message
news:1b448c8dca43308ec65072eb533ff2a7@news.teranew s.com...
> I have a Bestop Sunrider - I have never had the factory soft-top so I

can't
> compare, but the Sunrider is really easy to put down. I roll the back
> window, remove the side windows, and it drops in like 5 seconds.
>
> Deacon
>
> In article <a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.com >,
> nospam99992000@yahoo.com says...
> >
> >Hi gang,
> >
> >I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> >soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> >removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> >turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> >weather.
> >
> >Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> >would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> >It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> >go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> >interior ;) ).
> >
> >OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> >the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> >all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> >never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> >the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> >want to do so this Summer.
> >
> >I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> >the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> >mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> >you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> >find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> >nicely as the factory top.
> >
> >So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> >easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> >back on?
> >
> >Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> >this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
> >
> >-- Chris G.

>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:16 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Deacon,

Thanks for the reply!

How do you keep the rear window rolled up? The factory top has elastic
straps with snaps that make it easy to roll up the rear window.

So just to be clear, all you do is remove the side windows (which I
figured), roll up the rear window, and you leave the fabric connected to the
frame? Then you just drop back the fabric and frame?

If it is that easy, I will keep the Sunrider on this Summer.

-- Chris G.

"Deacon" <deacon@clark.net> wrote in message
news:1b448c8dca43308ec65072eb533ff2a7@news.teranew s.com...
> I have a Bestop Sunrider - I have never had the factory soft-top so I

can't
> compare, but the Sunrider is really easy to put down. I roll the back
> window, remove the side windows, and it drops in like 5 seconds.
>
> Deacon
>
> In article <a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.com >,
> nospam99992000@yahoo.com says...
> >
> >Hi gang,
> >
> >I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> >soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> >removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> >turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> >weather.
> >
> >Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> >would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> >It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> >go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> >interior ;) ).
> >
> >OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> >the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> >all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> >never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> >the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> >want to do so this Summer.
> >
> >I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> >the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> >mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> >you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> >find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> >nicely as the factory top.
> >
> >So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> >easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> >back on?
> >
> >Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> >this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
> >
> >-- Chris G.

>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:16 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Deacon,

Thanks for the reply!

How do you keep the rear window rolled up? The factory top has elastic
straps with snaps that make it easy to roll up the rear window.

So just to be clear, all you do is remove the side windows (which I
figured), roll up the rear window, and you leave the fabric connected to the
frame? Then you just drop back the fabric and frame?

If it is that easy, I will keep the Sunrider on this Summer.

-- Chris G.

"Deacon" <deacon@clark.net> wrote in message
news:1b448c8dca43308ec65072eb533ff2a7@news.teranew s.com...
> I have a Bestop Sunrider - I have never had the factory soft-top so I

can't
> compare, but the Sunrider is really easy to put down. I roll the back
> window, remove the side windows, and it drops in like 5 seconds.
>
> Deacon
>
> In article <a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.com >,
> nospam99992000@yahoo.com says...
> >
> >Hi gang,
> >
> >I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> >soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> >removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> >turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> >weather.
> >
> >Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> >would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> >It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> >go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> >interior ;) ).
> >
> >OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> >the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> >all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> >never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> >the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> >want to do so this Summer.
> >
> >I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> >the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> >mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> >you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> >find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> >nicely as the factory top.
> >
> >So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> >easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> >back on?
> >
> >Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> >this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
> >
> >-- Chris G.

>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:16 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Deacon,

Thanks for the reply!

How do you keep the rear window rolled up? The factory top has elastic
straps with snaps that make it easy to roll up the rear window.

So just to be clear, all you do is remove the side windows (which I
figured), roll up the rear window, and you leave the fabric connected to the
frame? Then you just drop back the fabric and frame?

If it is that easy, I will keep the Sunrider on this Summer.

-- Chris G.

"Deacon" <deacon@clark.net> wrote in message
news:1b448c8dca43308ec65072eb533ff2a7@news.teranew s.com...
> I have a Bestop Sunrider - I have never had the factory soft-top so I

can't
> compare, but the Sunrider is really easy to put down. I roll the back
> window, remove the side windows, and it drops in like 5 seconds.
>
> Deacon
>
> In article <a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.com >,
> nospam99992000@yahoo.com says...
> >
> >Hi gang,
> >
> >I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> >soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> >removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> >turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> >weather.
> >
> >Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> >would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> >It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> >go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> >interior ;) ).
> >
> >OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> >the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> >all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> >never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> >the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> >want to do so this Summer.
> >
> >I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> >the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> >mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> >you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> >find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> >nicely as the factory top.
> >
> >So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> >easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> >back on?
> >
> >Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> >this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
> >
> >-- Chris G.

>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:19 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Where I live the rain is as likely to come down at an angle as to come down
straight. Which means put the windows in, or come back to a flooded Jeep. ;)

With my factory soft top, I always rolled up the rear window. Yeah, after a
couple years it gets a little scratched, but so what, it was never like
looking through glass in the first place!

-- Chris G.

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

pull
> them before dropping the top.
> I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

kinked
> and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

then
> you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
>
> Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
> back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!
>
>
> "CG" <nospam99992000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.c om...
> > Hi gang,
> >
> > I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> > soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> > removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> > turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> > weather.
> >
> > Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> > would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> > It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> > go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> > interior ;) ).
> >
> > OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> > the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> > all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> > never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> > the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> > want to do so this Summer.
> >
> > I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> > the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> > mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> > you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> > find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> > nicely as the factory top.
> >
> > So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> > easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> > back on?
> >
> > Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> > this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
> >
> > -- Chris G.

>
>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:19 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Where I live the rain is as likely to come down at an angle as to come down
straight. Which means put the windows in, or come back to a flooded Jeep. ;)

With my factory soft top, I always rolled up the rear window. Yeah, after a
couple years it gets a little scratched, but so what, it was never like
looking through glass in the first place!

-- Chris G.

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

pull
> them before dropping the top.
> I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

kinked
> and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

then
> you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
>
> Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
> back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!
>
>
> "CG" <nospam99992000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.c om...
> > Hi gang,
> >
> > I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> > soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> > removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> > turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> > weather.
> >
> > Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> > would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> > It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> > go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> > interior ;) ).
> >
> > OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> > the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> > all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> > never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> > the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> > want to do so this Summer.
> >
> > I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> > the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> > mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> > you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> > find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> > nicely as the factory top.
> >
> > So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> > easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> > back on?
> >
> > Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> > this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
> >
> > -- Chris G.

>
>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:19 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Where I live the rain is as likely to come down at an angle as to come down
straight. Which means put the windows in, or come back to a flooded Jeep. ;)

With my factory soft top, I always rolled up the rear window. Yeah, after a
couple years it gets a little scratched, but so what, it was never like
looking through glass in the first place!

-- Chris G.

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

pull
> them before dropping the top.
> I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

kinked
> and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

then
> you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
>
> Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
> back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!
>
>
> "CG" <nospam99992000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.c om...
> > Hi gang,
> >
> > I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> > soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> > removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> > turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> > weather.
> >
> > Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> > would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> > It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> > go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> > interior ;) ).
> >
> > OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> > the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> > all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> > never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> > the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> > want to do so this Summer.
> >
> > I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> > the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> > mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> > you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> > find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> > nicely as the factory top.
> >
> > So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> > easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> > back on?
> >
> > Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> > this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
> >
> > -- Chris G.

>
>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:19 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Where I live the rain is as likely to come down at an angle as to come down
straight. Which means put the windows in, or come back to a flooded Jeep. ;)

With my factory soft top, I always rolled up the rear window. Yeah, after a
couple years it gets a little scratched, but so what, it was never like
looking through glass in the first place!

-- Chris G.

"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:HKEtc.205302$0qd.173429@twister01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers.com...
> if the sunrider windows are anything like the factory soft tops....I'd

pull
> them before dropping the top.
> I once tried as nice as possible to roll up my rear window and it got

kinked
> and creased and was a pain to clear that....so keep'em flat if possible.
> I've never seen anyone roll their top with their windows....try it and

then
> you can give us the horror story of your ruined windows! ;)
>
> Take the time and pull the windows....the top it self goes up pretty
> quick....so know the weather before you walk away from your jeep for
> extended periods of time....you don't have to carry your windows to zip'em
> back in....most rain comes straight down so you just need your top up!
>
>
> "CG" <nospam99992000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a6ea3e1b.0405271825.10b4561a@posting.google.c om...
> > Hi gang,
> >
> > I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> > soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> > removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> > turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> > weather.
> >
> > Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> > would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> > It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> > go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> > interior ;) ).
> >
> > OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> > the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> > all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> > never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> > the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> > want to do so this Summer.
> >
> > I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> > the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> > mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> > you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> > find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> > nicely as the factory top.
> >
> > So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> > easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> > back on?
> >
> > Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> > this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
> >
> > -- Chris G.

>
>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:20 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Without a doubt the side windows have to come out. As for the rear window,
roll that bad boy up. The less hassle the better!

-- Chris G.

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:m13eb05e4d1pnvvp0u8ar1ipj2listn78q@4ax.com...
> On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:
>
>
> >OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> >the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> >all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> >never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> >the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> >want to do so this Summer.
> >
> >I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> >the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> >mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> >you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> >find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> >nicely as the factory top.

>
> I don't know about the Sunrider, but I don know that you have to take
> the windows out of the factory top if you want to put it down. I
> guess you could just roll up the back window, but it's just as easy to
> take it out.
> My son takes the canvas all the way off of his and just folds down the
> frame. Doesn't take a whole lot longer to put back up, and sure looks
> neater when it's down. If it ever quits raining here, I may try that.
>
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:20 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Without a doubt the side windows have to come out. As for the rear window,
roll that bad boy up. The less hassle the better!

-- Chris G.

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:m13eb05e4d1pnvvp0u8ar1ipj2listn78q@4ax.com...
> On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:
>
>
> >OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> >the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> >all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> >never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> >the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> >want to do so this Summer.
> >
> >I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> >the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> >mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> >you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> >find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> >nicely as the factory top.

>
> I don't know about the Sunrider, but I don know that you have to take
> the windows out of the factory top if you want to put it down. I
> guess you could just roll up the back window, but it's just as easy to
> take it out.
> My son takes the canvas all the way off of his and just folds down the
> frame. Doesn't take a whole lot longer to put back up, and sure looks
> neater when it's down. If it ever quits raining here, I may try that.
>
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:20 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Without a doubt the side windows have to come out. As for the rear window,
roll that bad boy up. The less hassle the better!

-- Chris G.

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:m13eb05e4d1pnvvp0u8ar1ipj2listn78q@4ax.com...
> On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:
>
>
> >OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> >the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> >all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> >never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> >the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> >want to do so this Summer.
> >
> >I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> >the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> >mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> >you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> >find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> >nicely as the factory top.

>
> I don't know about the Sunrider, but I don know that you have to take
> the windows out of the factory top if you want to put it down. I
> guess you could just roll up the back window, but it's just as easy to
> take it out.
> My son takes the canvas all the way off of his and just folds down the
> frame. Doesn't take a whole lot longer to put back up, and sure looks
> neater when it's down. If it ever quits raining here, I may try that.
>
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
> ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
> TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:20 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Without a doubt the side windows have to come out. As for the rear window,
roll that bad boy up. The less hassle the better!

-- Chris G.

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:m13eb05e4d1pnvvp0u8ar1ipj2listn78q@4ax.com...
> On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:
>
>
> >OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> >the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> >all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> >never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> >the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> >want to do so this Summer.
> >
> >I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> >the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> >mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> >you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> >find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> >nicely as the factory top.

>
> I don't know about the Sunrider, but I don know that you have to take
> the windows out of the factory top if you want to put it down. I
> guess you could just roll up the back window, but it's just as easy to
> take it out.
> My son takes the canvas all the way off of his and just folds down the
> frame. Doesn't take a whole lot longer to put back up, and sure looks
> neater when it's down. If it ever quits raining here, I may try that.
>
> --
> Old Crow
> '82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
> '95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
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Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:25 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Just try a Sunrider sometime and you'll get it! ;)

It's all about convenience. The more convenient it is, the more I'll ride
around with the top down.

Ever have to put the factory top up while it is pouring? Your interior is
getting wet! With the Sunrider, when the weather looks iffy, you only flip
back the "sun roof", and when the rain comes you can have a sealed top again
in literally 10 seconds. I have never tried it, but you could probably even
close it while driving (to get the full seal you'ld have to stop and open
the doors to seal the side flaps, but you'ld keep the rain out until you had
a chance to do that.)

-- Chris G.

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:8dhdb01qovrbsgk787tme72o1ro7qvdus5@4ax.com...
> Wish I could answer, but I've never seen a need for any other top
> other than the OEM one. Just a couple mins up or down, what's the
> point for any other top?
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:
>
> >Hi gang,
> >
> >I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> >soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> >removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> >turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> >weather.
> >
> >Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> >would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> >It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> >go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> >interior ;) ).
> >
> >OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> >the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> >all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> >never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> >the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> >want to do so this Summer.
> >
> >I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> >the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> >mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> >you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> >find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> >nicely as the factory top.
> >
> >So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> >easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> >back on?
> >
> >Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> >this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
> >
> >-- Chris G.

>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:25 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Just try a Sunrider sometime and you'll get it! ;)

It's all about convenience. The more convenient it is, the more I'll ride
around with the top down.

Ever have to put the factory top up while it is pouring? Your interior is
getting wet! With the Sunrider, when the weather looks iffy, you only flip
back the "sun roof", and when the rain comes you can have a sealed top again
in literally 10 seconds. I have never tried it, but you could probably even
close it while driving (to get the full seal you'ld have to stop and open
the doors to seal the side flaps, but you'ld keep the rain out until you had
a chance to do that.)

-- Chris G.

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:8dhdb01qovrbsgk787tme72o1ro7qvdus5@4ax.com...
> Wish I could answer, but I've never seen a need for any other top
> other than the OEM one. Just a couple mins up or down, what's the
> point for any other top?
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:
>
> >Hi gang,
> >
> >I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> >soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> >removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> >turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> >weather.
> >
> >Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> >would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> >It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> >go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> >interior ;) ).
> >
> >OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> >the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> >all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> >never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> >the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> >want to do so this Summer.
> >
> >I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> >the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> >mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> >you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> >find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> >nicely as the factory top.
> >
> >So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> >easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> >back on?
> >
> >Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> >this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
> >
> >-- Chris G.

>




Chris Geiss 05-28-2004 07:25 PM

Re: Dropping Bestop Sunrider top vs. factory soft top?
 
Just try a Sunrider sometime and you'll get it! ;)

It's all about convenience. The more convenient it is, the more I'll ride
around with the top down.

Ever have to put the factory top up while it is pouring? Your interior is
getting wet! With the Sunrider, when the weather looks iffy, you only flip
back the "sun roof", and when the rain comes you can have a sealed top again
in literally 10 seconds. I have never tried it, but you could probably even
close it while driving (to get the full seal you'ld have to stop and open
the doors to seal the side flaps, but you'ld keep the rain out until you had
a chance to do that.)

-- Chris G.

"David C. Moller" <dmoller@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:8dhdb01qovrbsgk787tme72o1ro7qvdus5@4ax.com...
> Wish I could answer, but I've never seen a need for any other top
> other than the OEM one. Just a couple mins up or down, what's the
> point for any other top?
>
> Dave
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm
>
> On 27 May 2004 19:25:42 -0700, nospam99992000@yahoo.com (CG) wrote:
>
> >Hi gang,
> >
> >I have a 1999 Jeep Wrangler with 3 tops. I bought it with the factory
> >soft top. Then I bought the Fleet Air Targa Top (front roof panel is
> >removable) which is a good top, and nice and quiet for the Winter, but
> >turned out to be too much of a hassle for open air riding in nice
> >weather.
> >
> >Then last Summer I bought the Bestop Sunrider because I figured it
> >would be a good compromise between the other two tops. I love the top.
> >It is so much more convenient than the factory soft top which has to
> >go all the way up every time it rains (I park outside and like my
> >interior ;) ).
> >
> >OK, so here is the issue...it is time to swap the hard top for one of
> >the soft tops. The whole of last Summer I never dropped the Sunrider
> >all the way down. I just flipped the sun roof back and forth. So I
> >never got a sense of how easy or hard it is to drop the Sunrider all
> >the way. But I miss putting the top all the way down, and expect to
> >want to do so this Summer.
> >
> >I have read in this newsgroup that the Sunrider is as easy to drop all
> >the way down as the factory soft top. But based on my memory of the
> >mechanism for the Sunrider I find that hard to believe. It sounds like
> >you have to remove the rear window as well as the side windows, and I
> >find it hard to believe that the bows and top material fold back as
> >nicely as the factory top.
> >
> >So any opinions? Can anyone with a Sunrider give me an idea of how
> >easy it is to drop? Vs. the factory soft top? Which top should I put
> >back on?
> >
> >Any info will be greatly appreciated! I want to try to do the swap
> >this weekend. Weather on Long Island is perfect for top down now. :)
> >
> >-- Chris G.

>





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