driveline vibes
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Re: driveline vibes
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:02:24 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On mine, 2400 in 5th would be about 85 mph.
>>
>> I am not surprized that you think that tall gears with big tires are a
>> great combo and 2400 at 85 is cool. And you try to pass yourself off
>> as a expert too, Shame!!!! Not surprize coming for someone that tells
>> people to spin the tires is reverse while in 4x4 to remove drivetrain
>> stress. You are all show and no know. -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> Listen you insane -------, I never said 85 at 2400 'or' tall ranges was
> cool, That is only in 'your' little pea brain.
>
> Gotta keep trying -------- because brilliance in your case just don't work
> eh snowjob?
>
> I just stated that as a comparison so the OP might realize that different
> gear ratios make different speeds at a certain rpm range.
>
> No one but no one can be as screwed in the head as someone like you who
> says they 'always' stop on the highway in a snowstorm to change gears and
> have been doing it for 35 years! (or how to cause a hundred car pileup in
> one easy lesson)
>
> Absolutely 'nothing' I could ever post will top that one you insane fool!
>
> Well..... maybe your conning some poor sucker the other day in
> rec.autos.4x4 to jack up his vehicle to relieve the driveline stress
> might. LOL! I felt sorry for the poor sucker! I'll bet most of the
> group got a good laugh also.
>
> Can anyone imagine the laughs fools like that would get at the local off
> road area. Oops, hang on folks, gotta get out the jack because I can't
> shift out of 4 low so everyone take a break eh.
>
> Just a hint for you fool, 'we' keep our vehicles in good mechanical shape
> so spinning the tires in mud or on dirt or snow isn't going to hurt
> anything, ever.
>
Mike, there is no reason to spin the tires to unload the drive train, all
you really need do is select R and let the clutch out far enough to change
the pressure on the gears. I understand the goal, and what you are doing,
but you do not need to do quite so much.
Having said that, you are completely right, there is no harm done in
spinning the tires in mud or on dirt.
#122
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Re: driveline vibes
Sorry for coming in late, have you checked the tires to be sure they are
balanced well? The change you made would not create a vibe unless the vibe
is coming from the tires themselves. The drive line angle is not going to be
changed.
I also have a Tom Wood double cardan (CV joint) driveshaft. I got low speed
vibes from it when the center joint in the double cardan came apart. There
is a spring loaded thingie that lives in between the two u-joints at the
t-case end of the shaft. This spring loaded thingie has a collar that is
peened into place, and the collar is known to come loose on occasion. You
can peen it back into place sometimes, or you can replace the center joint.
The u-joints cost about $10, but the center joint will set you back
something on the order of $35. You should be able to gain access to the
collar with a screwdriver without taking the shaft off. If you can move the
collar with yoru screwdriver, then you have to disassemble the shaft and
double cardan joint to get to the center joint.
Be sure to mark the yokes on each end so you put the shaft back on in the
proper orientation. I like to use appliance paint with the little brush
attached to the inside of the cap to draw the marks.
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1177372064.553768.122440@b58g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with a 2.5, tom wood cv shaft, tera sye ford 8.8
>
> i downsized the tires to 31s from 33s. now o get a vibration in 5
> gear at 2400 rpm, it rattles the keys. suggestions?
>
balanced well? The change you made would not create a vibe unless the vibe
is coming from the tires themselves. The drive line angle is not going to be
changed.
I also have a Tom Wood double cardan (CV joint) driveshaft. I got low speed
vibes from it when the center joint in the double cardan came apart. There
is a spring loaded thingie that lives in between the two u-joints at the
t-case end of the shaft. This spring loaded thingie has a collar that is
peened into place, and the collar is known to come loose on occasion. You
can peen it back into place sometimes, or you can replace the center joint.
The u-joints cost about $10, but the center joint will set you back
something on the order of $35. You should be able to gain access to the
collar with a screwdriver without taking the shaft off. If you can move the
collar with yoru screwdriver, then you have to disassemble the shaft and
double cardan joint to get to the center joint.
Be sure to mark the yokes on each end so you put the shaft back on in the
proper orientation. I like to use appliance paint with the little brush
attached to the inside of the cap to draw the marks.
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1177372064.553768.122440@b58g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with a 2.5, tom wood cv shaft, tera sye ford 8.8
>
> i downsized the tires to 31s from 33s. now o get a vibration in 5
> gear at 2400 rpm, it rattles the keys. suggestions?
>
#123
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Re: driveline vibes
Sorry for coming in late, have you checked the tires to be sure they are
balanced well? The change you made would not create a vibe unless the vibe
is coming from the tires themselves. The drive line angle is not going to be
changed.
I also have a Tom Wood double cardan (CV joint) driveshaft. I got low speed
vibes from it when the center joint in the double cardan came apart. There
is a spring loaded thingie that lives in between the two u-joints at the
t-case end of the shaft. This spring loaded thingie has a collar that is
peened into place, and the collar is known to come loose on occasion. You
can peen it back into place sometimes, or you can replace the center joint.
The u-joints cost about $10, but the center joint will set you back
something on the order of $35. You should be able to gain access to the
collar with a screwdriver without taking the shaft off. If you can move the
collar with yoru screwdriver, then you have to disassemble the shaft and
double cardan joint to get to the center joint.
Be sure to mark the yokes on each end so you put the shaft back on in the
proper orientation. I like to use appliance paint with the little brush
attached to the inside of the cap to draw the marks.
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1177372064.553768.122440@b58g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with a 2.5, tom wood cv shaft, tera sye ford 8.8
>
> i downsized the tires to 31s from 33s. now o get a vibration in 5
> gear at 2400 rpm, it rattles the keys. suggestions?
>
balanced well? The change you made would not create a vibe unless the vibe
is coming from the tires themselves. The drive line angle is not going to be
changed.
I also have a Tom Wood double cardan (CV joint) driveshaft. I got low speed
vibes from it when the center joint in the double cardan came apart. There
is a spring loaded thingie that lives in between the two u-joints at the
t-case end of the shaft. This spring loaded thingie has a collar that is
peened into place, and the collar is known to come loose on occasion. You
can peen it back into place sometimes, or you can replace the center joint.
The u-joints cost about $10, but the center joint will set you back
something on the order of $35. You should be able to gain access to the
collar with a screwdriver without taking the shaft off. If you can move the
collar with yoru screwdriver, then you have to disassemble the shaft and
double cardan joint to get to the center joint.
Be sure to mark the yokes on each end so you put the shaft back on in the
proper orientation. I like to use appliance paint with the little brush
attached to the inside of the cap to draw the marks.
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1177372064.553768.122440@b58g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with a 2.5, tom wood cv shaft, tera sye ford 8.8
>
> i downsized the tires to 31s from 33s. now o get a vibration in 5
> gear at 2400 rpm, it rattles the keys. suggestions?
>
#124
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Re: driveline vibes
Sorry for coming in late, have you checked the tires to be sure they are
balanced well? The change you made would not create a vibe unless the vibe
is coming from the tires themselves. The drive line angle is not going to be
changed.
I also have a Tom Wood double cardan (CV joint) driveshaft. I got low speed
vibes from it when the center joint in the double cardan came apart. There
is a spring loaded thingie that lives in between the two u-joints at the
t-case end of the shaft. This spring loaded thingie has a collar that is
peened into place, and the collar is known to come loose on occasion. You
can peen it back into place sometimes, or you can replace the center joint.
The u-joints cost about $10, but the center joint will set you back
something on the order of $35. You should be able to gain access to the
collar with a screwdriver without taking the shaft off. If you can move the
collar with yoru screwdriver, then you have to disassemble the shaft and
double cardan joint to get to the center joint.
Be sure to mark the yokes on each end so you put the shaft back on in the
proper orientation. I like to use appliance paint with the little brush
attached to the inside of the cap to draw the marks.
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1177372064.553768.122440@b58g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with a 2.5, tom wood cv shaft, tera sye ford 8.8
>
> i downsized the tires to 31s from 33s. now o get a vibration in 5
> gear at 2400 rpm, it rattles the keys. suggestions?
>
balanced well? The change you made would not create a vibe unless the vibe
is coming from the tires themselves. The drive line angle is not going to be
changed.
I also have a Tom Wood double cardan (CV joint) driveshaft. I got low speed
vibes from it when the center joint in the double cardan came apart. There
is a spring loaded thingie that lives in between the two u-joints at the
t-case end of the shaft. This spring loaded thingie has a collar that is
peened into place, and the collar is known to come loose on occasion. You
can peen it back into place sometimes, or you can replace the center joint.
The u-joints cost about $10, but the center joint will set you back
something on the order of $35. You should be able to gain access to the
collar with a screwdriver without taking the shaft off. If you can move the
collar with yoru screwdriver, then you have to disassemble the shaft and
double cardan joint to get to the center joint.
Be sure to mark the yokes on each end so you put the shaft back on in the
proper orientation. I like to use appliance paint with the little brush
attached to the inside of the cap to draw the marks.
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1177372064.553768.122440@b58g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with a 2.5, tom wood cv shaft, tera sye ford 8.8
>
> i downsized the tires to 31s from 33s. now o get a vibration in 5
> gear at 2400 rpm, it rattles the keys. suggestions?
>
#125
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Re: driveline vibes
Sorry for coming in late, have you checked the tires to be sure they are
balanced well? The change you made would not create a vibe unless the vibe
is coming from the tires themselves. The drive line angle is not going to be
changed.
I also have a Tom Wood double cardan (CV joint) driveshaft. I got low speed
vibes from it when the center joint in the double cardan came apart. There
is a spring loaded thingie that lives in between the two u-joints at the
t-case end of the shaft. This spring loaded thingie has a collar that is
peened into place, and the collar is known to come loose on occasion. You
can peen it back into place sometimes, or you can replace the center joint.
The u-joints cost about $10, but the center joint will set you back
something on the order of $35. You should be able to gain access to the
collar with a screwdriver without taking the shaft off. If you can move the
collar with yoru screwdriver, then you have to disassemble the shaft and
double cardan joint to get to the center joint.
Be sure to mark the yokes on each end so you put the shaft back on in the
proper orientation. I like to use appliance paint with the little brush
attached to the inside of the cap to draw the marks.
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1177372064.553768.122440@b58g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with a 2.5, tom wood cv shaft, tera sye ford 8.8
>
> i downsized the tires to 31s from 33s. now o get a vibration in 5
> gear at 2400 rpm, it rattles the keys. suggestions?
>
balanced well? The change you made would not create a vibe unless the vibe
is coming from the tires themselves. The drive line angle is not going to be
changed.
I also have a Tom Wood double cardan (CV joint) driveshaft. I got low speed
vibes from it when the center joint in the double cardan came apart. There
is a spring loaded thingie that lives in between the two u-joints at the
t-case end of the shaft. This spring loaded thingie has a collar that is
peened into place, and the collar is known to come loose on occasion. You
can peen it back into place sometimes, or you can replace the center joint.
The u-joints cost about $10, but the center joint will set you back
something on the order of $35. You should be able to gain access to the
collar with a screwdriver without taking the shaft off. If you can move the
collar with yoru screwdriver, then you have to disassemble the shaft and
double cardan joint to get to the center joint.
Be sure to mark the yokes on each end so you put the shaft back on in the
proper orientation. I like to use appliance paint with the little brush
attached to the inside of the cap to draw the marks.
"j" <johnhuebner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1177372064.553768.122440@b58g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> 1995 wrangler with a 2.5, tom wood cv shaft, tera sye ford 8.8
>
> i downsized the tires to 31s from 33s. now o get a vibration in 5
> gear at 2400 rpm, it rattles the keys. suggestions?
>
#130
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Re: driveline vibes
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:462e15e5$0$6042$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> SnoMan wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:02:24 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On mine, 2400 in 5th would be about 85 mph.
>>>
>>> I am not surprized that you think that tall gears with big tires are a
>>> great combo and 2400 at 85 is cool. And you try to pass yourself off
>>> as a expert too, Shame!!!! Not surprize coming for someone that tells
>>> people to spin the tires is reverse while in 4x4 to remove drivetrain
>>> stress. You are all show and no know. -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Listen you insane -------, I never said 85 at 2400 'or' tall ranges
>> was cool, That is only in 'your' little pea brain.
>>
>> Gotta keep trying -------- because brilliance in your case just don't
>> work eh snowjob?
>>
>> I just stated that as a comparison so the OP might realize that
>> different gear ratios make different speeds at a certain rpm range.
>>
>> No one but no one can be as screwed in the head as someone like you
>> who says they 'always' stop on the highway in a snowstorm to change
>> gears and have been doing it for 35 years! (or how to cause a hundred
>> car pileup in one easy lesson)
>>
>> Absolutely 'nothing' I could ever post will top that one you insane fool!
>>
>> Well..... maybe your conning some poor sucker the other day in
>> rec.autos.4x4 to jack up his vehicle to relieve the driveline stress
>> might. LOL! I felt sorry for the poor sucker! I'll bet most of the
>> group got a good laugh also.
>>
>> Can anyone imagine the laughs fools like that would get at the local
>> off road area. Oops, hang on folks, gotta get out the jack because I
>> can't shift out of 4 low so everyone take a break eh.
>>
>> Just a hint for you fool, 'we' keep our vehicles in good mechanical
>> shape so spinning the tires in mud or on dirt or snow isn't going to
>> hurt anything, ever.
>>
>
> Mike, there is no reason to spin the tires to unload the drive train,
> all you really need do is select R and let the clutch out far enough to
> change the pressure on the gears. I understand the goal, and what you
> are doing, but you do not need to do quite so much.
>
> Having said that, you are completely right, there is no harm done in
> spinning the tires in mud or on dirt.
>
I normally have my hand on the shifter while letting the clutch out for
that goose. You are right, lots of time it comes out fast, but man once
in a while, my Dana 300 will get 'really' tight in 4 low.... My tires
have too much traction! :-)
If I have room to cut a corner in reverse, it helps also.
Mike
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:462e15e5$0$6042$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>> SnoMan wrote:
>>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:02:24 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On mine, 2400 in 5th would be about 85 mph.
>>>
>>> I am not surprized that you think that tall gears with big tires are a
>>> great combo and 2400 at 85 is cool. And you try to pass yourself off
>>> as a expert too, Shame!!!! Not surprize coming for someone that tells
>>> people to spin the tires is reverse while in 4x4 to remove drivetrain
>>> stress. You are all show and no know. -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>
>> Listen you insane -------, I never said 85 at 2400 'or' tall ranges
>> was cool, That is only in 'your' little pea brain.
>>
>> Gotta keep trying -------- because brilliance in your case just don't
>> work eh snowjob?
>>
>> I just stated that as a comparison so the OP might realize that
>> different gear ratios make different speeds at a certain rpm range.
>>
>> No one but no one can be as screwed in the head as someone like you
>> who says they 'always' stop on the highway in a snowstorm to change
>> gears and have been doing it for 35 years! (or how to cause a hundred
>> car pileup in one easy lesson)
>>
>> Absolutely 'nothing' I could ever post will top that one you insane fool!
>>
>> Well..... maybe your conning some poor sucker the other day in
>> rec.autos.4x4 to jack up his vehicle to relieve the driveline stress
>> might. LOL! I felt sorry for the poor sucker! I'll bet most of the
>> group got a good laugh also.
>>
>> Can anyone imagine the laughs fools like that would get at the local
>> off road area. Oops, hang on folks, gotta get out the jack because I
>> can't shift out of 4 low so everyone take a break eh.
>>
>> Just a hint for you fool, 'we' keep our vehicles in good mechanical
>> shape so spinning the tires in mud or on dirt or snow isn't going to
>> hurt anything, ever.
>>
>
> Mike, there is no reason to spin the tires to unload the drive train,
> all you really need do is select R and let the clutch out far enough to
> change the pressure on the gears. I understand the goal, and what you
> are doing, but you do not need to do quite so much.
>
> Having said that, you are completely right, there is no harm done in
> spinning the tires in mud or on dirt.
>
I normally have my hand on the shifter while letting the clutch out for
that goose. You are right, lots of time it comes out fast, but man once
in a while, my Dana 300 will get 'really' tight in 4 low.... My tires
have too much traction! :-)
If I have room to cut a corner in reverse, it helps also.
Mike