Drive shaft questions
11-08-2004, 01:52 PM
#11
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Re: Drive shaft questions
I don't know what has to change to accept the double cardan. My CJ had the
double cardan on it when I bought it, so I have simply unboltde the old one
and bolted up the new one.
Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any modification.
Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my particular
year.
You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
"HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
news:2v7vkhF2itioiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
> >
> > I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the
tcase
> > to the yoke, and he took it from there.
>
> From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer
case
> to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp 14
> bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate 10-15
> degrees.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> 99XJ Sport
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>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a
regular
> >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made
shaft?
> >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> --
> >> _____________________
> >> HomeBrewer
> >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
double cardan on it when I bought it, so I have simply unboltde the old one
and bolted up the new one.
Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any modification.
Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my particular
year.
You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
"HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
news:2v7vkhF2itioiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> >I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
> >
> > I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the
tcase
> > to the yoke, and he took it from there.
>
> From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer
case
> to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp 14
> bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate 10-15
> degrees.
>
> --
> _____________________
> HomeBrewer
> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> 99XJ Sport
> Remove the xxx to reply!
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:10ot9e829j3o227@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a
regular
> >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made
shaft?
> >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> --
> >> _____________________
> >> HomeBrewer
> >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
11-08-2004, 04:20 PM
#12
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Re: Drive shaft questions
For me I was told I would need a different yoke which I purchased and
installed. 60.00 from TW including shipping.
The CV shaft cost me 300.00 plus tax locally, balanced.
Also, Jeff, is this correct? "You want the tcase and the pinion angle to
create parallel centerlines." Rather, you want the pinion to point to the
transfer case with as close to 0 degree angle as possible, correct?
http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/
Bill
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10ovg72c28a3db5@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't know what has to change to accept the double cardan. My CJ had the
> double cardan on it when I bought it, so I have simply unboltde the old
one
> and bolted up the new one.
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any
modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my
particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
>
>
>
>
> "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
> news:2v7vkhF2itioiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
> > >
> > > I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the
> tcase
> > > to the yoke, and he took it from there.
> >
> > From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer
> case
> > to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp
14
> > bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> > transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> > don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate
10-15
> > degrees.
> >
> > --
> > _____________________
> > HomeBrewer
> > 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > 99XJ Sport
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10ot9e829j3o227@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> > >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a
> regular
> > >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made
> shaft?
> > >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> --
> > >> _____________________
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
installed. 60.00 from TW including shipping.
The CV shaft cost me 300.00 plus tax locally, balanced.
Also, Jeff, is this correct? "You want the tcase and the pinion angle to
create parallel centerlines." Rather, you want the pinion to point to the
transfer case with as close to 0 degree angle as possible, correct?
http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/
Bill
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10ovg72c28a3db5@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't know what has to change to accept the double cardan. My CJ had the
> double cardan on it when I bought it, so I have simply unboltde the old
one
> and bolted up the new one.
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any
modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my
particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
>
>
>
>
> "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
> news:2v7vkhF2itioiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
> > >
> > > I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the
> tcase
> > > to the yoke, and he took it from there.
> >
> > From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer
> case
> > to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp
14
> > bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> > transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> > don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate
10-15
> > degrees.
> >
> > --
> > _____________________
> > HomeBrewer
> > 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > 99XJ Sport
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10ot9e829j3o227@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> > >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a
> regular
> > >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made
> shaft?
> > >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> --
> > >> _____________________
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
11-08-2004, 04:20 PM
#13
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Re: Drive shaft questions
For me I was told I would need a different yoke which I purchased and
installed. 60.00 from TW including shipping.
The CV shaft cost me 300.00 plus tax locally, balanced.
Also, Jeff, is this correct? "You want the tcase and the pinion angle to
create parallel centerlines." Rather, you want the pinion to point to the
transfer case with as close to 0 degree angle as possible, correct?
http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/
Bill
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10ovg72c28a3db5@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't know what has to change to accept the double cardan. My CJ had the
> double cardan on it when I bought it, so I have simply unboltde the old
one
> and bolted up the new one.
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any
modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my
particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
>
>
>
>
> "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
> news:2v7vkhF2itioiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
> > >
> > > I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the
> tcase
> > > to the yoke, and he took it from there.
> >
> > From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer
> case
> > to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp
14
> > bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> > transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> > don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate
10-15
> > degrees.
> >
> > --
> > _____________________
> > HomeBrewer
> > 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > 99XJ Sport
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10ot9e829j3o227@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> > >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a
> regular
> > >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made
> shaft?
> > >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> --
> > >> _____________________
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
installed. 60.00 from TW including shipping.
The CV shaft cost me 300.00 plus tax locally, balanced.
Also, Jeff, is this correct? "You want the tcase and the pinion angle to
create parallel centerlines." Rather, you want the pinion to point to the
transfer case with as close to 0 degree angle as possible, correct?
http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/
Bill
"Jeff Strickland" <spamcatcher@yahoo.net> wrote in message
news:10ovg72c28a3db5@corp.supernews.com...
> I don't know what has to change to accept the double cardan. My CJ had the
> double cardan on it when I bought it, so I have simply unboltde the old
one
> and bolted up the new one.
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any
modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my
particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
>
>
>
>
> "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
> news:2v7vkhF2itioiU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >I suggest you get a double-cardan shaft whether or not you "need" one.
> > >
> > > I have a Tom Woods shaft in my CJ5. I measured the distance from the
> tcase
> > > to the yoke, and he took it from there.
> >
> > From what I've read, you have to change the output yoke on the transfer
> case
> > to run a double cardan- If that is true I'm not doing it. I have a corp
14
> > bolt rear and a dana 300 transfer case. I have the rear pointing at the
> > transfer case and the transfer case points ever so slightly downward. I
> > don't know the angle yet, but it's not that great - I would estimate
10-15
> > degrees.
> >
> > --
> > _____________________
> > HomeBrewer
> > 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > 99XJ Sport
> > Remove the xxx to reply!
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:10ot9e829j3o227@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "HomeBrewer" <85cj7XXX@***.net> wrote in message
> > > news:2v7bfqF2h5585U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > >>I need a new drive shaft because my old one is too short for my new
> > >>project, so how do I know if I need the double CV joint or just a
> regular
> > >>u-joint. Also, what price should I expect to pay for a custom made
> shaft?
> > >>Can I use my old one and get it lengthened?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> --
> > >> _____________________
> > >> HomeBrewer
> > >> 85CJ7 (in Progress)
> > >> http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
11-08-2004, 04:23 PM
#14
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Re: Drive shaft questions
Hi Jeff,
Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
11-08-2004, 04:23 PM
#15
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Re: Drive shaft questions
Hi Jeff,
Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.
Steve
http://xjeep.dyndns.org
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any modification.
> Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the double
> cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my particular
> year.
>
> You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
11-08-2004, 04:43 PM
#16
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Re: Drive shaft questions
With a CV type(including double Cardan), pointing the pinion directly at the
T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
vibration.
--
Jeff L.
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:2va6eaF2b2ssbU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
> straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any
modification.
> > Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the
double
> > cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my
particular
> > year.
> >
> > You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
vibration.
--
Jeff L.
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:2va6eaF2b2ssbU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
> straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any
modification.
> > Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the
double
> > cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my
particular
> > year.
> >
> > You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
11-08-2004, 04:43 PM
#17
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Re: Drive shaft questions
With a CV type(including double Cardan), pointing the pinion directly at the
T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
vibration.
--
Jeff L.
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:2va6eaF2b2ssbU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
> straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any
modification.
> > Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the
double
> > cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my
particular
> > year.
> >
> > You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
T case is theoretically correct for the least amount of vibration, however
the needles in the U joint would never move in this case and you would
quickly get a Brinell failure. By pointing the pinion a couple of degrees
off (above or below) there is some needle bearing movement and everything
stays lubed and smooth. The price you pay for bearing life is a little
vibration.
--
Jeff L.
"Steve" <xjlifter@bogus.com> wrote in message
news:2va6eaF2b2ssbU1@uni-berlin.de...
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Actually, with a double cardan shaft, you want the pinion pointing
> straight at the tcase output, not parallel with it.
>
> Steve
> http://xjeep.dyndns.org
>
>
> Jeff Strickland wrote:
> >
> > Frankly, I think the double cardan will fit a D300 without any
modification.
> > Contact Tom Woods for more details. I have a FSM for my CJ, and the
double
> > cardan is shown as standard for at least one of the models for my
particular
> > year.
> >
> > You want the tcase and the pinion angle to create parallel centerlines.
11-08-2004, 05:14 PM
#18
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Re: Drive shaft questions
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2va6c8F2idnorU1@uni-berlin.de...
> For me I was told I would need a different yoke which I purchased and
> installed. 60.00 from TW including shipping.
> The CV shaft cost me 300.00 plus tax locally, balanced.
>
> Also, Jeff, is this correct? "You want the tcase and the pinion angle to
> create parallel centerlines." Rather, you want the pinion to point to the
> transfer case with as close to 0 degree angle as possible, correct?
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/
>
I haven't looked at the link you gave, yet, but I will.
I read that one wanted the centerlines to be parallel.
11-08-2004, 05:14 PM
#19
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Re: Drive shaft questions
"William Oliveri" <wuji@bigvalley.net> wrote in message
news:2va6c8F2idnorU1@uni-berlin.de...
> For me I was told I would need a different yoke which I purchased and
> installed. 60.00 from TW including shipping.
> The CV shaft cost me 300.00 plus tax locally, balanced.
>
> Also, Jeff, is this correct? "You want the tcase and the pinion angle to
> create parallel centerlines." Rather, you want the pinion to point to the
> transfer case with as close to 0 degree angle as possible, correct?
>
> http://www.4x4wire.com/tech/pinionangle/
>
I haven't looked at the link you gave, yet, but I will.
I read that one wanted the centerlines to be parallel.
11-08-2004, 06:25 PM
#20
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Re: Drive shaft questions
Centerlines to be parallel, when not using a constant velocity
universal joint: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> I haven't looked at the link you gave, yet, but I will.
>
> I read that one wanted the centerlines to be parallel.
universal joint: http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html
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mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jeff Strickland wrote:
>
> I haven't looked at the link you gave, yet, but I will.
>
> I read that one wanted the centerlines to be parallel.