Dragging front brakes. $#@!
07-28-2004, 09:36 AM
#31
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Re: Dragging front brakes. $#@!
It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> and jam too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
back
> > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
loose
> > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> >
> > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
drain
> > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
a
> > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
came
> > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
worn
> > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
thickness..weird,
> > musta been pretty soft pads.
> >
> > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > sides.
> > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
drivers
> > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
Amazing
> > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> >
> > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
Just
> > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
e it
> > before.
Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> and jam too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
back
> > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
loose
> > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> >
> > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
drain
> > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
a
> > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
came
> > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
worn
> > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
thickness..weird,
> > musta been pretty soft pads.
> >
> > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > sides.
> > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
drivers
> > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
Amazing
> > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> >
> > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
Just
> > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
e it
> > before.
07-28-2004, 09:36 AM
#32
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Re: Dragging front brakes. $#@!
It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> and jam too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
back
> > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
loose
> > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> >
> > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
drain
> > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
a
> > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
came
> > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
worn
> > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
thickness..weird,
> > musta been pretty soft pads.
> >
> > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > sides.
> > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
drivers
> > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
Amazing
> > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> >
> > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
Just
> > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
e it
> > before.
Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> and jam too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
back
> > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
loose
> > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> >
> > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
drain
> > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
a
> > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
came
> > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
worn
> > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
thickness..weird,
> > musta been pretty soft pads.
> >
> > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > sides.
> > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
drivers
> > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
Amazing
> > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> >
> > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
Just
> > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
e it
> > before.
07-28-2004, 09:36 AM
#33
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Re: Dragging front brakes. $#@!
It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> and jam too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
back
> > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
loose
> > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> >
> > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
drain
> > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
a
> > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
came
> > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
worn
> > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
thickness..weird,
> > musta been pretty soft pads.
> >
> > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > sides.
> > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
drivers
> > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
Amazing
> > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> >
> > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
Just
> > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
e it
> > before.
Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> and jam too.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
back
> > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
loose
> > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> >
> > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
drain
> > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
a
> > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
came
> > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
worn
> > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
thickness..weird,
> > musta been pretty soft pads.
> >
> > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > sides.
> > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
drivers
> > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
Amazing
> > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> >
> > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
Just
> > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
e it
> > before.
07-28-2004, 01:33 PM
#34
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Re: Dragging front brakes. $#@!
Hi Jerry,
The '78 Chrysler product I once worked on appeared to be metal, but
when I broke an edge trying to collapse it, the break was white plastic.
I can't venture a guess, maybe in your Chevy caliber, Ford rotor
mating. I remember some pads use a spring clip, that matched the
notches, so they wouldn't be a 180 out, others were riveted to the new
pads.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> > If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> > and jam too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> > >
> > > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
> back
> > > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
> loose
> > > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> > >
> > > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
> drain
> > > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
> a
> > > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
> came
> > > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
> worn
> > > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
> thickness..weird,
> > > musta been pretty soft pads.
> > >
> > > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > > sides.
> > > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
> drivers
> > > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
> Amazing
> > > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> > >
> > > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
> Just
> > > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
> e it
> > > before.
The '78 Chrysler product I once worked on appeared to be metal, but
when I broke an edge trying to collapse it, the break was white plastic.
I can't venture a guess, maybe in your Chevy caliber, Ford rotor
mating. I remember some pads use a spring clip, that matched the
notches, so they wouldn't be a 180 out, others were riveted to the new
pads.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> > If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> > and jam too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> > >
> > > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
> back
> > > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
> loose
> > > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> > >
> > > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
> drain
> > > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
> a
> > > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
> came
> > > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
> worn
> > > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
> thickness..weird,
> > > musta been pretty soft pads.
> > >
> > > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > > sides.
> > > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
> drivers
> > > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
> Amazing
> > > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> > >
> > > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
> Just
> > > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
> e it
> > > before.
07-28-2004, 01:33 PM
#35
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Dragging front brakes. $#@!
Hi Jerry,
The '78 Chrysler product I once worked on appeared to be metal, but
when I broke an edge trying to collapse it, the break was white plastic.
I can't venture a guess, maybe in your Chevy caliber, Ford rotor
mating. I remember some pads use a spring clip, that matched the
notches, so they wouldn't be a 180 out, others were riveted to the new
pads.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> > If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> > and jam too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> > >
> > > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
> back
> > > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
> loose
> > > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> > >
> > > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
> drain
> > > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
> a
> > > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
> came
> > > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
> worn
> > > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
> thickness..weird,
> > > musta been pretty soft pads.
> > >
> > > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > > sides.
> > > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
> drivers
> > > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
> Amazing
> > > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> > >
> > > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
> Just
> > > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
> e it
> > > before.
The '78 Chrysler product I once worked on appeared to be metal, but
when I broke an edge trying to collapse it, the break was white plastic.
I can't venture a guess, maybe in your Chevy caliber, Ford rotor
mating. I remember some pads use a spring clip, that matched the
notches, so they wouldn't be a 180 out, others were riveted to the new
pads.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> > If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> > and jam too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> > >
> > > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
> back
> > > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
> loose
> > > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> > >
> > > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
> drain
> > > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
> a
> > > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
> came
> > > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
> worn
> > > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
> thickness..weird,
> > > musta been pretty soft pads.
> > >
> > > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > > sides.
> > > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
> drivers
> > > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
> Amazing
> > > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> > >
> > > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
> Just
> > > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
> e it
> > > before.
07-28-2004, 01:33 PM
#36
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Dragging front brakes. $#@!
Hi Jerry,
The '78 Chrysler product I once worked on appeared to be metal, but
when I broke an edge trying to collapse it, the break was white plastic.
I can't venture a guess, maybe in your Chevy caliber, Ford rotor
mating. I remember some pads use a spring clip, that matched the
notches, so they wouldn't be a 180 out, others were riveted to the new
pads.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> > If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> > and jam too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> > >
> > > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
> back
> > > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
> loose
> > > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> > >
> > > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
> drain
> > > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
> a
> > > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
> came
> > > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
> worn
> > > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
> thickness..weird,
> > > musta been pretty soft pads.
> > >
> > > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > > sides.
> > > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
> drivers
> > > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
> Amazing
> > > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> > >
> > > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
> Just
> > > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
> e it
> > > before.
The '78 Chrysler product I once worked on appeared to be metal, but
when I broke an edge trying to collapse it, the break was white plastic.
I can't venture a guess, maybe in your Chevy caliber, Ford rotor
mating. I remember some pads use a spring clip, that matched the
notches, so they wouldn't be a 180 out, others were riveted to the new
pads.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> > If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> > and jam too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> > >
> > > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
> back
> > > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
> loose
> > > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> > >
> > > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
> drain
> > > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
> a
> > > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
> came
> > > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
> worn
> > > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
> thickness..weird,
> > > musta been pretty soft pads.
> > >
> > > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > > sides.
> > > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
> drivers
> > > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
> Amazing
> > > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> > >
> > > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
> Just
> > > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
> e it
> > > before.
07-28-2004, 01:33 PM
#37
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Re: Dragging front brakes. $#@!
Hi Jerry,
The '78 Chrysler product I once worked on appeared to be metal, but
when I broke an edge trying to collapse it, the break was white plastic.
I can't venture a guess, maybe in your Chevy caliber, Ford rotor
mating. I remember some pads use a spring clip, that matched the
notches, so they wouldn't be a 180 out, others were riveted to the new
pads.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> > If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> > and jam too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> > >
> > > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
> back
> > > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
> loose
> > > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> > >
> > > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
> drain
> > > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
> a
> > > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
> came
> > > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
> worn
> > > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
> thickness..weird,
> > > musta been pretty soft pads.
> > >
> > > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > > sides.
> > > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
> drivers
> > > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
> Amazing
> > > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> > >
> > > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
> Just
> > > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
> e it
> > > before.
The '78 Chrysler product I once worked on appeared to be metal, but
when I broke an edge trying to collapse it, the break was white plastic.
I can't venture a guess, maybe in your Chevy caliber, Ford rotor
mating. I remember some pads use a spring clip, that matched the
notches, so they wouldn't be a 180 out, others were riveted to the new
pads.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry McG wrote:
>
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:4103334C.1397426B@***.net...
> > If the piston was plastic, get ready for the other side to swell
> > and jam too.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Jerry McG wrote:
> > >
> > > I pulled the caliper today and the piston was frozen, I culdn't move it
> back
> > > in at all. Also, the anti-squeal shim on the fixed side pad had pulled
> loose
> > > from the pad backing plate and was slightly distorted.
> > >
> > > The fluid is new, however I found some small metal particles in the
> drain
> > > pan I put under it. I flushed a buch of fluid through the the line into
> a
> > > glass container and didn't find anything in it, so I assume the crud
> came
> > > out of the old caliper. Despite the fact that the paads were twidce as
> worn
> > > on the right side as the left, the rotors are identical
> thickness..weird,
> > > musta been pretty soft pads.
> > >
> > > Anyway, on went the new caliper from NAPA and a fres set of pads on both
> > > sides.
> > > The axles have been on there for over 20k miles and the pads on the
> drivers
> > > side were virtually identical thicjness to the ones out of the box.
> Amazing
> > > how litle work 3/4 ton brakes do ano a 1/4 tone vehicle. ;-)
> > >
> > > Drove it a lot today to bed in the new pads and everything seems fine.
> Just
> > > seems odd to me the thing semi-siezed like that. Never seen anything lik
> e it
> > > before.
07-29-2004, 06:18 PM
#38
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Re: Dragging front brakes. $#@!
Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
I believe what goes in should match what comes out.
That clip helps pull the pad back and holds it to the
piston.
--
DougW
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
I believe what goes in should match what comes out.
That clip helps pull the pad back and holds it to the
piston.
--
DougW
07-29-2004, 06:18 PM
#39
Guest
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Re: Dragging front brakes. $#@!
Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
I believe what goes in should match what comes out.
That clip helps pull the pad back and holds it to the
piston.
--
DougW
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
I believe what goes in should match what comes out.
That clip helps pull the pad back and holds it to the
piston.
--
DougW
07-29-2004, 06:18 PM
#40
Guest
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Re: Dragging front brakes. $#@!
Jerry McG did pass the time by typing:
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
I believe what goes in should match what comes out.
That clip helps pull the pad back and holds it to the
piston.
--
DougW
> It appeared to be metal, as did the piston on the new one.
>
> Now, next questioon for GM experts: The old pads had a retailing spring clip
> that holds the piston side pads to the piston. There weren't any new ones in
> the box with the new pads, so I transferred the old ones. The clips push the
> pads ever so slightly past the edge of the rotor and I'm wondering if that
> clip is unnecessary. Stopped by my local Jeep / GMC dealer
> yesterday and they found that the factory had discontinued the clip as a
> replacement part. Hmmmm, maybe I shoulda tossed the clips, wadddya think?
I believe what goes in should match what comes out.
That clip helps pull the pad back and holds it to the
piston.
--
DougW