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CRWLR 04-20-2004 08:25 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
In CALIFORNIA (your mileage may vary), one is required to have two mirrors
that can see at least 200 feet to the rear. The required mirror is the one
mounted to the left door. The options for the second morror is the
windshield mounted mirror, OR the mirror mounted to the right side door. The
windshield is the preferred mirror, but if there is a load, or the rear view
is blocked for any reason, then the right side mirror is required. The way I
read the rules, one can elect to not have the windshield mounted mirror, and
only have the mirrors mounted to the doors.

Having said that, the doors can be taken off. In this case, the mirrors must
be attached generally in the same location. There is a bracket that Sun
Performance sells that allows you to relocate the mirrors when the doors are
taken off. I don't think the right side mirror can be seen very well using
these brackets, and you may want to only use the left side mirror and the
mirror that is mounted to the windshield.




"Casey" <casey3477@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:vzihc.25955$6m4.1067265@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> The weather this week in NC has been great, and it is suppose to stay that
> way for a while. So I decided to take my doors off my 2002 TJ this

evening.
> This is the first time I have done it, and I love it. I was wondering
> though, what types of laws are there for mirrors, I see a lot, and I mean

a
> lot of Wranglers down here that don't have mirrors. I know they pass cops,
> do the cops just not care?
> I also scratched up the nuts that hold the door on, do you guys just use
> touch up paint on them, or not even bolt them on?
>
> Thanks
> C.G.
>
>




CRWLR 04-20-2004 08:25 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
In CALIFORNIA (your mileage may vary), one is required to have two mirrors
that can see at least 200 feet to the rear. The required mirror is the one
mounted to the left door. The options for the second morror is the
windshield mounted mirror, OR the mirror mounted to the right side door. The
windshield is the preferred mirror, but if there is a load, or the rear view
is blocked for any reason, then the right side mirror is required. The way I
read the rules, one can elect to not have the windshield mounted mirror, and
only have the mirrors mounted to the doors.

Having said that, the doors can be taken off. In this case, the mirrors must
be attached generally in the same location. There is a bracket that Sun
Performance sells that allows you to relocate the mirrors when the doors are
taken off. I don't think the right side mirror can be seen very well using
these brackets, and you may want to only use the left side mirror and the
mirror that is mounted to the windshield.




"Casey" <casey3477@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:vzihc.25955$6m4.1067265@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> The weather this week in NC has been great, and it is suppose to stay that
> way for a while. So I decided to take my doors off my 2002 TJ this

evening.
> This is the first time I have done it, and I love it. I was wondering
> though, what types of laws are there for mirrors, I see a lot, and I mean

a
> lot of Wranglers down here that don't have mirrors. I know they pass cops,
> do the cops just not care?
> I also scratched up the nuts that hold the door on, do you guys just use
> touch up paint on them, or not even bolt them on?
>
> Thanks
> C.G.
>
>




CRWLR 04-20-2004 08:25 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
In CALIFORNIA (your mileage may vary), one is required to have two mirrors
that can see at least 200 feet to the rear. The required mirror is the one
mounted to the left door. The options for the second morror is the
windshield mounted mirror, OR the mirror mounted to the right side door. The
windshield is the preferred mirror, but if there is a load, or the rear view
is blocked for any reason, then the right side mirror is required. The way I
read the rules, one can elect to not have the windshield mounted mirror, and
only have the mirrors mounted to the doors.

Having said that, the doors can be taken off. In this case, the mirrors must
be attached generally in the same location. There is a bracket that Sun
Performance sells that allows you to relocate the mirrors when the doors are
taken off. I don't think the right side mirror can be seen very well using
these brackets, and you may want to only use the left side mirror and the
mirror that is mounted to the windshield.




"Casey" <casey3477@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:vzihc.25955$6m4.1067265@twister.southeast.rr. com...
> The weather this week in NC has been great, and it is suppose to stay that
> way for a while. So I decided to take my doors off my 2002 TJ this

evening.
> This is the first time I have done it, and I love it. I was wondering
> though, what types of laws are there for mirrors, I see a lot, and I mean

a
> lot of Wranglers down here that don't have mirrors. I know they pass cops,
> do the cops just not care?
> I also scratched up the nuts that hold the door on, do you guys just use
> touch up paint on them, or not even bolt them on?
>
> Thanks
> C.G.
>
>




Mike Romain 04-20-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
For sure, though I do like to have at least the drivers side mirror.

Our DMV is online and it says we need one mirror that can view 200' or
something like that.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> Hey Mike....only the rear view needed in ON?!?!
>
> Dam....that's AWESOME!! Cuz I was looking at those windshield corner frames
> that move the mirror off the door and on to the body.....
>
> I know BC asks for 2 mirrors. --both sides or rear and drivers side.
>
> this is great news!! haha
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4085B644.B223A059@sympatico.ca...
> > Your local DMV is online and the rules of the road are there somewhere.
> >
> > Here in Ontario Canada, we only 'have' to have one mirror, in other
> > provinces, we have to have a drivers side one too.
> >
> > You can get brackets to mount the mirror on the hinge or get CJ ones
> > that mount on the hinge.
> >
> > One friend got a cheap set of mirrors from a Honda shop. They fit right
> > in the hinge hole, hold tight with one nut, don't vibrate and look good.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Casey wrote:
> > >
> > > The weather this week in NC has been great, and it is suppose to stay

> that
> > > way for a while. So I decided to take my doors off my 2002 TJ this

> evening.
> > > This is the first time I have done it, and I love it. I was wondering
> > > though, what types of laws are there for mirrors, I see a lot, and I

> mean a
> > > lot of Wranglers down here that don't have mirrors. I know they pass

> cops,
> > > do the cops just not care?
> > > I also scratched up the nuts that hold the door on, do you guys just

> use
> > > touch up paint on them, or not even bolt them on?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > C.G.


Mike Romain 04-20-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
For sure, though I do like to have at least the drivers side mirror.

Our DMV is online and it says we need one mirror that can view 200' or
something like that.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> Hey Mike....only the rear view needed in ON?!?!
>
> Dam....that's AWESOME!! Cuz I was looking at those windshield corner frames
> that move the mirror off the door and on to the body.....
>
> I know BC asks for 2 mirrors. --both sides or rear and drivers side.
>
> this is great news!! haha
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4085B644.B223A059@sympatico.ca...
> > Your local DMV is online and the rules of the road are there somewhere.
> >
> > Here in Ontario Canada, we only 'have' to have one mirror, in other
> > provinces, we have to have a drivers side one too.
> >
> > You can get brackets to mount the mirror on the hinge or get CJ ones
> > that mount on the hinge.
> >
> > One friend got a cheap set of mirrors from a Honda shop. They fit right
> > in the hinge hole, hold tight with one nut, don't vibrate and look good.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Casey wrote:
> > >
> > > The weather this week in NC has been great, and it is suppose to stay

> that
> > > way for a while. So I decided to take my doors off my 2002 TJ this

> evening.
> > > This is the first time I have done it, and I love it. I was wondering
> > > though, what types of laws are there for mirrors, I see a lot, and I

> mean a
> > > lot of Wranglers down here that don't have mirrors. I know they pass

> cops,
> > > do the cops just not care?
> > > I also scratched up the nuts that hold the door on, do you guys just

> use
> > > touch up paint on them, or not even bolt them on?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > C.G.


Mike Romain 04-20-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
For sure, though I do like to have at least the drivers side mirror.

Our DMV is online and it says we need one mirror that can view 200' or
something like that.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> Hey Mike....only the rear view needed in ON?!?!
>
> Dam....that's AWESOME!! Cuz I was looking at those windshield corner frames
> that move the mirror off the door and on to the body.....
>
> I know BC asks for 2 mirrors. --both sides or rear and drivers side.
>
> this is great news!! haha
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4085B644.B223A059@sympatico.ca...
> > Your local DMV is online and the rules of the road are there somewhere.
> >
> > Here in Ontario Canada, we only 'have' to have one mirror, in other
> > provinces, we have to have a drivers side one too.
> >
> > You can get brackets to mount the mirror on the hinge or get CJ ones
> > that mount on the hinge.
> >
> > One friend got a cheap set of mirrors from a Honda shop. They fit right
> > in the hinge hole, hold tight with one nut, don't vibrate and look good.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Casey wrote:
> > >
> > > The weather this week in NC has been great, and it is suppose to stay

> that
> > > way for a while. So I decided to take my doors off my 2002 TJ this

> evening.
> > > This is the first time I have done it, and I love it. I was wondering
> > > though, what types of laws are there for mirrors, I see a lot, and I

> mean a
> > > lot of Wranglers down here that don't have mirrors. I know they pass

> cops,
> > > do the cops just not care?
> > > I also scratched up the nuts that hold the door on, do you guys just

> use
> > > touch up paint on them, or not even bolt them on?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > C.G.


Mike Romain 04-20-2004 08:32 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
For sure, though I do like to have at least the drivers side mirror.

Our DMV is online and it says we need one mirror that can view 200' or
something like that.

Mike

SB wrote:
>
> Hey Mike....only the rear view needed in ON?!?!
>
> Dam....that's AWESOME!! Cuz I was looking at those windshield corner frames
> that move the mirror off the door and on to the body.....
>
> I know BC asks for 2 mirrors. --both sides or rear and drivers side.
>
> this is great news!! haha
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4085B644.B223A059@sympatico.ca...
> > Your local DMV is online and the rules of the road are there somewhere.
> >
> > Here in Ontario Canada, we only 'have' to have one mirror, in other
> > provinces, we have to have a drivers side one too.
> >
> > You can get brackets to mount the mirror on the hinge or get CJ ones
> > that mount on the hinge.
> >
> > One friend got a cheap set of mirrors from a Honda shop. They fit right
> > in the hinge hole, hold tight with one nut, don't vibrate and look good.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Casey wrote:
> > >
> > > The weather this week in NC has been great, and it is suppose to stay

> that
> > > way for a while. So I decided to take my doors off my 2002 TJ this

> evening.
> > > This is the first time I have done it, and I love it. I was wondering
> > > though, what types of laws are there for mirrors, I see a lot, and I

> mean a
> > > lot of Wranglers down here that don't have mirrors. I know they pass

> cops,
> > > do the cops just not care?
> > > I also scratched up the nuts that hold the door on, do you guys just

> use
> > > touch up paint on them, or not even bolt them on?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > C.G.


David C. Moller 04-20-2004 09:04 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Different state have different laws. Here in Washington, you need at
least a combination of two different mirrors. I knew this but figured
a cop would never waste his time with it. Well, I was kinda right... I
ran for 4 summers with no doors until finally one smokey was
apparently bored enough to pull me over and write me a ticket.
Ridiculous part is, it's a moving violation instead of simply an
equipment violation, and my insurance company raised my rates!
Incredible... I ended up switching insurance companies hehehe.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:42:19 GMT, "Casey" <casey3477@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>The weather this week in NC has been great, and it is suppose to stay that
>way for a while. So I decided to take my doors off my 2002 TJ this evening.
>This is the first time I have done it, and I love it. I was wondering
>though, what types of laws are there for mirrors, I see a lot, and I mean a
>lot of Wranglers down here that don't have mirrors. I know they pass cops,
>do the cops just not care?
> I also scratched up the nuts that hold the door on, do you guys just use
>touch up paint on them, or not even bolt them on?
>
>Thanks
>C.G.
>



David C. Moller 04-20-2004 09:04 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Different state have different laws. Here in Washington, you need at
least a combination of two different mirrors. I knew this but figured
a cop would never waste his time with it. Well, I was kinda right... I
ran for 4 summers with no doors until finally one smokey was
apparently bored enough to pull me over and write me a ticket.
Ridiculous part is, it's a moving violation instead of simply an
equipment violation, and my insurance company raised my rates!
Incredible... I ended up switching insurance companies hehehe.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:42:19 GMT, "Casey" <casey3477@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>The weather this week in NC has been great, and it is suppose to stay that
>way for a while. So I decided to take my doors off my 2002 TJ this evening.
>This is the first time I have done it, and I love it. I was wondering
>though, what types of laws are there for mirrors, I see a lot, and I mean a
>lot of Wranglers down here that don't have mirrors. I know they pass cops,
>do the cops just not care?
> I also scratched up the nuts that hold the door on, do you guys just use
>touch up paint on them, or not even bolt them on?
>
>Thanks
>C.G.
>



David C. Moller 04-20-2004 09:04 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Different state have different laws. Here in Washington, you need at
least a combination of two different mirrors. I knew this but figured
a cop would never waste his time with it. Well, I was kinda right... I
ran for 4 summers with no doors until finally one smokey was
apparently bored enough to pull me over and write me a ticket.
Ridiculous part is, it's a moving violation instead of simply an
equipment violation, and my insurance company raised my rates!
Incredible... I ended up switching insurance companies hehehe.

Dave
http://mysite.verizon.net/res0p2es/david/index.htm

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:42:19 GMT, "Casey" <casey3477@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>The weather this week in NC has been great, and it is suppose to stay that
>way for a while. So I decided to take my doors off my 2002 TJ this evening.
>This is the first time I have done it, and I love it. I was wondering
>though, what types of laws are there for mirrors, I see a lot, and I mean a
>lot of Wranglers down here that don't have mirrors. I know they pass cops,
>do the cops just not care?
> I also scratched up the nuts that hold the door on, do you guys just use
>touch up paint on them, or not even bolt them on?
>
>Thanks
>C.G.
>




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