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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-21-2004 06:22 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Ask one of your Highway Patrol friends, it just must be on the car
it, I repeat again, it doesn't have to be up. Drive the coast route with
it down and see for yourself.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Actually, you are wrong. Again. The windshield must be in place if you are
> driving on the street. You cited the rules for windshield wipers, not
> windshields.
>
> Windshields: Exception
> 26700. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), a passenger vehicle,
> other than a motorcycle, and every bus, motortruck or truck tractor, and
> every firetruck, fire engine or other fire apparatus, whether publicly or
> privately owned, shall be equipped with an adequate windshield.
>
> (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any vehicle issued identification
> plates pursuant to Section 5004 which was not required to be equipped with a
> windshield at the time it was first sold or registered under the laws of
> this state, another state, or foreign jurisdiction.
>
> Basically, everything on the highway that is not a motorcycle must have a
> windshield unless there is some reason it was not required to have a
> windshield when it was first sold. This means that an antique car that might
> not have had a windshield when it was first made does not need to be
> retrofitted to have a windshield. There hasn't been a car made for several
> decades that does not have a windshield, with the exception of a golf cart
> or similar such vehicle.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-21-2004 06:39 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Maybe, if you read "shall be equipped with an adequate windshield."
from: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26700.htm It may sink in.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Actually, you are wrong. Again. The windshield must be in place if you are
> driving on the street. You cited the rules for windshield wipers, not
> windshields.
>
> Windshields: Exception
> 26700. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), a passenger vehicle,
> other than a motorcycle, and every bus, motortruck or truck tractor, and
> every firetruck, fire engine or other fire apparatus, whether publicly or
> privately owned, shall be equipped with an adequate windshield.
>
> (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any vehicle issued identification
> plates pursuant to Section 5004 which was not required to be equipped with a
> windshield at the time it was first sold or registered under the laws of
> this state, another state, or foreign jurisdiction.
>
> Basically, everything on the highway that is not a motorcycle must have a
> windshield unless there is some reason it was not required to have a
> windshield when it was first sold. This means that an antique car that might
> not have had a windshield when it was first made does not need to be
> retrofitted to have a windshield. There hasn't been a car made for several
> decades that does not have a windshield, with the exception of a golf cart
> or similar such vehicle.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-21-2004 06:39 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Maybe, if you read "shall be equipped with an adequate windshield."
from: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26700.htm It may sink in.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Actually, you are wrong. Again. The windshield must be in place if you are
> driving on the street. You cited the rules for windshield wipers, not
> windshields.
>
> Windshields: Exception
> 26700. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), a passenger vehicle,
> other than a motorcycle, and every bus, motortruck or truck tractor, and
> every firetruck, fire engine or other fire apparatus, whether publicly or
> privately owned, shall be equipped with an adequate windshield.
>
> (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any vehicle issued identification
> plates pursuant to Section 5004 which was not required to be equipped with a
> windshield at the time it was first sold or registered under the laws of
> this state, another state, or foreign jurisdiction.
>
> Basically, everything on the highway that is not a motorcycle must have a
> windshield unless there is some reason it was not required to have a
> windshield when it was first sold. This means that an antique car that might
> not have had a windshield when it was first made does not need to be
> retrofitted to have a windshield. There hasn't been a car made for several
> decades that does not have a windshield, with the exception of a golf cart
> or similar such vehicle.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-21-2004 06:39 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Maybe, if you read "shall be equipped with an adequate windshield."
from: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26700.htm It may sink in.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Actually, you are wrong. Again. The windshield must be in place if you are
> driving on the street. You cited the rules for windshield wipers, not
> windshields.
>
> Windshields: Exception
> 26700. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), a passenger vehicle,
> other than a motorcycle, and every bus, motortruck or truck tractor, and
> every firetruck, fire engine or other fire apparatus, whether publicly or
> privately owned, shall be equipped with an adequate windshield.
>
> (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any vehicle issued identification
> plates pursuant to Section 5004 which was not required to be equipped with a
> windshield at the time it was first sold or registered under the laws of
> this state, another state, or foreign jurisdiction.
>
> Basically, everything on the highway that is not a motorcycle must have a
> windshield unless there is some reason it was not required to have a
> windshield when it was first sold. This means that an antique car that might
> not have had a windshield when it was first made does not need to be
> retrofitted to have a windshield. There hasn't been a car made for several
> decades that does not have a windshield, with the exception of a golf cart
> or similar such vehicle.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 04-21-2004 06:39 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Maybe, if you read "shall be equipped with an adequate windshield."
from: http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26700.htm It may sink in.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

CRWLR wrote:
>
> Actually, you are wrong. Again. The windshield must be in place if you are
> driving on the street. You cited the rules for windshield wipers, not
> windshields.
>
> Windshields: Exception
> 26700. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), a passenger vehicle,
> other than a motorcycle, and every bus, motortruck or truck tractor, and
> every firetruck, fire engine or other fire apparatus, whether publicly or
> privately owned, shall be equipped with an adequate windshield.
>
> (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any vehicle issued identification
> plates pursuant to Section 5004 which was not required to be equipped with a
> windshield at the time it was first sold or registered under the laws of
> this state, another state, or foreign jurisdiction.
>
> Basically, everything on the highway that is not a motorcycle must have a
> windshield unless there is some reason it was not required to have a
> windshield when it was first sold. This means that an antique car that might
> not have had a windshield when it was first made does not need to be
> retrofitted to have a windshield. There hasn't been a car made for several
> decades that does not have a windshield, with the exception of a golf cart
> or similar such vehicle.


Mike Romain 04-21-2004 07:10 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Read it carefully Jeff.

It just says you must 'have' a windshield.

It also states that the way a stock one works is just fine, even if the
stock one folds down.

Very much like signal lights on a Bike. If the bike didn't come with
them, you don't have to add them, hand signals are legal.

It does 'not' state that you cannot use the windshield as it was
designed to be used, folded, it certainly implies otherwise.

The law here in Ontario Canada is the same. You 'have' to have a
windshield and a working wiper, that's it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

CRWLR wrote:
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4086D9E4.4D651911@cox.net...
> > Hi Jeff,
> > Everyone with a real Jeep must fold the windshield down and cruise
> > Kalifornia's boulevard, and it's perfectly legal, the law states a
> > vehicle must be equipped with a windshield and wipers:
> > http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26706.htm it doesn't say it must
> > be up. However, after one trip you'll find it's very uncomfortable, the
> > air is compressed and blasted to your face, many times stronger than on
> > a motorcycle. But, if you like being the center of attention, it's the
> > only way to go.

>
> Actually, you are wrong. Again. The windshield must be in place if you are
> driving on the street. You cited the rules for windshield wipers, not
> windshields.
>
> Windshields: Exception
> 26700. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), a passenger vehicle,
> other than a motorcycle, and every bus, motortruck or truck tractor, and
> every firetruck, fire engine or other fire apparatus, whether publicly or
> privately owned, shall be equipped with an adequate windshield.
>
> (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any vehicle issued identification
> plates pursuant to Section 5004 which was not required to be equipped with a
> windshield at the time it was first sold or registered under the laws of
> this state, another state, or foreign jurisdiction.
>
> Basically, everything on the highway that is not a motorcycle must have a
> windshield unless there is some reason it was not required to have a
> windshield when it was first sold. This means that an antique car that might
> not have had a windshield when it was first made does not need to be
> retrofitted to have a windshield. There hasn't been a car made for several
> decades that does not have a windshield, with the exception of a golf cart
> or similar such vehicle.


Mike Romain 04-21-2004 07:10 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Read it carefully Jeff.

It just says you must 'have' a windshield.

It also states that the way a stock one works is just fine, even if the
stock one folds down.

Very much like signal lights on a Bike. If the bike didn't come with
them, you don't have to add them, hand signals are legal.

It does 'not' state that you cannot use the windshield as it was
designed to be used, folded, it certainly implies otherwise.

The law here in Ontario Canada is the same. You 'have' to have a
windshield and a working wiper, that's it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

CRWLR wrote:
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4086D9E4.4D651911@cox.net...
> > Hi Jeff,
> > Everyone with a real Jeep must fold the windshield down and cruise
> > Kalifornia's boulevard, and it's perfectly legal, the law states a
> > vehicle must be equipped with a windshield and wipers:
> > http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26706.htm it doesn't say it must
> > be up. However, after one trip you'll find it's very uncomfortable, the
> > air is compressed and blasted to your face, many times stronger than on
> > a motorcycle. But, if you like being the center of attention, it's the
> > only way to go.

>
> Actually, you are wrong. Again. The windshield must be in place if you are
> driving on the street. You cited the rules for windshield wipers, not
> windshields.
>
> Windshields: Exception
> 26700. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), a passenger vehicle,
> other than a motorcycle, and every bus, motortruck or truck tractor, and
> every firetruck, fire engine or other fire apparatus, whether publicly or
> privately owned, shall be equipped with an adequate windshield.
>
> (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any vehicle issued identification
> plates pursuant to Section 5004 which was not required to be equipped with a
> windshield at the time it was first sold or registered under the laws of
> this state, another state, or foreign jurisdiction.
>
> Basically, everything on the highway that is not a motorcycle must have a
> windshield unless there is some reason it was not required to have a
> windshield when it was first sold. This means that an antique car that might
> not have had a windshield when it was first made does not need to be
> retrofitted to have a windshield. There hasn't been a car made for several
> decades that does not have a windshield, with the exception of a golf cart
> or similar such vehicle.


Mike Romain 04-21-2004 07:10 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Read it carefully Jeff.

It just says you must 'have' a windshield.

It also states that the way a stock one works is just fine, even if the
stock one folds down.

Very much like signal lights on a Bike. If the bike didn't come with
them, you don't have to add them, hand signals are legal.

It does 'not' state that you cannot use the windshield as it was
designed to be used, folded, it certainly implies otherwise.

The law here in Ontario Canada is the same. You 'have' to have a
windshield and a working wiper, that's it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

CRWLR wrote:
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4086D9E4.4D651911@cox.net...
> > Hi Jeff,
> > Everyone with a real Jeep must fold the windshield down and cruise
> > Kalifornia's boulevard, and it's perfectly legal, the law states a
> > vehicle must be equipped with a windshield and wipers:
> > http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26706.htm it doesn't say it must
> > be up. However, after one trip you'll find it's very uncomfortable, the
> > air is compressed and blasted to your face, many times stronger than on
> > a motorcycle. But, if you like being the center of attention, it's the
> > only way to go.

>
> Actually, you are wrong. Again. The windshield must be in place if you are
> driving on the street. You cited the rules for windshield wipers, not
> windshields.
>
> Windshields: Exception
> 26700. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), a passenger vehicle,
> other than a motorcycle, and every bus, motortruck or truck tractor, and
> every firetruck, fire engine or other fire apparatus, whether publicly or
> privately owned, shall be equipped with an adequate windshield.
>
> (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any vehicle issued identification
> plates pursuant to Section 5004 which was not required to be equipped with a
> windshield at the time it was first sold or registered under the laws of
> this state, another state, or foreign jurisdiction.
>
> Basically, everything on the highway that is not a motorcycle must have a
> windshield unless there is some reason it was not required to have a
> windshield when it was first sold. This means that an antique car that might
> not have had a windshield when it was first made does not need to be
> retrofitted to have a windshield. There hasn't been a car made for several
> decades that does not have a windshield, with the exception of a golf cart
> or similar such vehicle.


Mike Romain 04-21-2004 07:10 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
Read it carefully Jeff.

It just says you must 'have' a windshield.

It also states that the way a stock one works is just fine, even if the
stock one folds down.

Very much like signal lights on a Bike. If the bike didn't come with
them, you don't have to add them, hand signals are legal.

It does 'not' state that you cannot use the windshield as it was
designed to be used, folded, it certainly implies otherwise.

The law here in Ontario Canada is the same. You 'have' to have a
windshield and a working wiper, that's it.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

CRWLR wrote:
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4086D9E4.4D651911@cox.net...
> > Hi Jeff,
> > Everyone with a real Jeep must fold the windshield down and cruise
> > Kalifornia's boulevard, and it's perfectly legal, the law states a
> > vehicle must be equipped with a windshield and wipers:
> > http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26706.htm it doesn't say it must
> > be up. However, after one trip you'll find it's very uncomfortable, the
> > air is compressed and blasted to your face, many times stronger than on
> > a motorcycle. But, if you like being the center of attention, it's the
> > only way to go.

>
> Actually, you are wrong. Again. The windshield must be in place if you are
> driving on the street. You cited the rules for windshield wipers, not
> windshields.
>
> Windshields: Exception
> 26700. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), a passenger vehicle,
> other than a motorcycle, and every bus, motortruck or truck tractor, and
> every firetruck, fire engine or other fire apparatus, whether publicly or
> privately owned, shall be equipped with an adequate windshield.
>
> (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any vehicle issued identification
> plates pursuant to Section 5004 which was not required to be equipped with a
> windshield at the time it was first sold or registered under the laws of
> this state, another state, or foreign jurisdiction.
>
> Basically, everything on the highway that is not a motorcycle must have a
> windshield unless there is some reason it was not required to have a
> windshield when it was first sold. This means that an antique car that might
> not have had a windshield when it was first made does not need to be
> retrofitted to have a windshield. There hasn't been a car made for several
> decades that does not have a windshield, with the exception of a golf cart
> or similar such vehicle.


CRWLR 04-21-2004 07:44 PM

Re: Door Removal
 
It has to be up. Personal experience prevails over speculation.


"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4086F40F.71607906@cox.net...
> Ask one of your Highway Patrol friends, it just must be on the car
> it, I repeat again, it doesn't have to be up. Drive the coast route with
> it down and see for yourself.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> CRWLR wrote:
> >
> > Actually, you are wrong. Again. The windshield must be in place if you

are
> > driving on the street. You cited the rules for windshield wipers, not
> > windshields.
> >
> > Windshields: Exception
> > 26700. (a) Except as provided in subdivision (b), a passenger vehicle,
> > other than a motorcycle, and every bus, motortruck or truck tractor, and
> > every firetruck, fire engine or other fire apparatus, whether publicly

or
> > privately owned, shall be equipped with an adequate windshield.
> >
> > (b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any vehicle issued identification
> > plates pursuant to Section 5004 which was not required to be equipped

with a
> > windshield at the time it was first sold or registered under the laws of
> > this state, another state, or foreign jurisdiction.
> >
> > Basically, everything on the highway that is not a motorcycle must have

a
> > windshield unless there is some reason it was not required to have a
> > windshield when it was first sold. This means that an antique car that

might
> > not have had a windshield when it was first made does not need to be
> > retrofitted to have a windshield. There hasn't been a car made for

several
> > decades that does not have a windshield, with the exception of a golf

cart
> > or similar such vehicle.





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