Jeff Strickland

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:41:47 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>My theory was that the same concern about battery life exists whether or
>>not
>>the doors are installed. Based on that, I would design the circuit to give
>>me an alert if the lights were on, the ignition was off, and the door was
>>open. All of these conditions would mean to the vehicle that the operator
>>was about to walk away with the lights still on, therefore there ought to
>>be
>>an alert that the operator can react to or ignore.
>>
>>If the doors were removed, then the only remaining trigger for the alert
>>would be the lights on and the ignition off. This would not always be an
>>accurate indicator of the vehicle being unoccupied and abandoned with the
>>lights on, but it would be the only remaining way for the vehicle to know.
>>And, since the vehicle wants to keep a battery charge for as long as
>>possible, the probability of a false warning is better than no warning at
>>all. I would place the fuse so that the dome light went off but the rest
>>of
>>the stuff still worked while the doors were removed.
>>
>>Did they actually designed it that way? I don't know, but that's how I
>>would
>>design it if it was my job to design that sort of thing.
>>
>
> My Dog, what did you guys do before they put a chime on the lights?
> I've got 2 Wranglers and a '61 F-100 and there ain't a headlight chime
> on any of 'em. Can't remember the last time I forgot the headlights.
> :-)



They've always had headlight chimes, haven't they? Yours must be broken.
<winky smiley thing>

I agree. But, if one was going to go to the bother of making a headlamp
chime, the only purpose would be to prevent the operator from walking away
and leaving the headlamps on. Well, the other reason would be to annoy the
operator, but I assume the intent is for good not evil. In any case, the
same concern (either good or evil) exists whether or not the doors are
installed, so the circuit should be able to operate either way.

Jeff Strickland

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fjqfh3hq918kcj4nrf6mhgr1mjd0re4s5s@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:41:47 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>My theory was that the same concern about battery life exists whether or
>>not
>>the doors are installed. Based on that, I would design the circuit to give
>>me an alert if the lights were on, the ignition was off, and the door was
>>open. All of these conditions would mean to the vehicle that the operator
>>was about to walk away with the lights still on, therefore there ought to
>>be
>>an alert that the operator can react to or ignore.
>>
>>If the doors were removed, then the only remaining trigger for the alert
>>would be the lights on and the ignition off. This would not always be an
>>accurate indicator of the vehicle being unoccupied and abandoned with the
>>lights on, but it would be the only remaining way for the vehicle to know.
>>And, since the vehicle wants to keep a battery charge for as long as
>>possible, the probability of a false warning is better than no warning at
>>all. I would place the fuse so that the dome light went off but the rest
>>of
>>the stuff still worked while the doors were removed.
>>
>>Did they actually designed it that way? I don't know, but that's how I
>>would
>>design it if it was my job to design that sort of thing.
>>
>
> My Dog, what did you guys do before they put a chime on the lights?
> I've got 2 Wranglers and a '61 F-100 and there ain't a headlight chime
> on any of 'em. Can't remember the last time I forgot the headlights.
> :-)



They've always had headlight chimes, haven't they? Yours must be broken.
<winky smiley thing>

I agree. But, if one was going to go to the bother of making a headlamp
chime, the only purpose would be to prevent the operator from walking away
and leaving the headlamps on. Well, the other reason would be to annoy the
operator, but I assume the intent is for good not evil. In any case, the
same concern (either good or evil) exists whether or not the doors are
installed, so the circuit should be able to operate either way.

Jeff Strickland

"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:fjqfh3hq918kcj4nrf6mhgr1mjd0re4s5s@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:41:47 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>My theory was that the same concern about battery life exists whether or
>>not
>>the doors are installed. Based on that, I would design the circuit to give
>>me an alert if the lights were on, the ignition was off, and the door was
>>open. All of these conditions would mean to the vehicle that the operator
>>was about to walk away with the lights still on, therefore there ought to
>>be
>>an alert that the operator can react to or ignore.
>>
>>If the doors were removed, then the only remaining trigger for the alert
>>would be the lights on and the ignition off. This would not always be an
>>accurate indicator of the vehicle being unoccupied and abandoned with the
>>lights on, but it would be the only remaining way for the vehicle to know.
>>And, since the vehicle wants to keep a battery charge for as long as
>>possible, the probability of a false warning is better than no warning at
>>all. I would place the fuse so that the dome light went off but the rest
>>of
>>the stuff still worked while the doors were removed.
>>
>>Did they actually designed it that way? I don't know, but that's how I
>>would
>>design it if it was my job to design that sort of thing.
>>
>
> My Dog, what did you guys do before they put a chime on the lights?
> I've got 2 Wranglers and a '61 F-100 and there ain't a headlight chime
> on any of 'em. Can't remember the last time I forgot the headlights.
> :-)



They've always had headlight chimes, haven't they? Yours must be broken.
<winky smiley thing>

I agree. But, if one was going to go to the bother of making a headlamp
chime, the only purpose would be to prevent the operator from walking away
and leaving the headlamps on. Well, the other reason would be to annoy the
operator, but I assume the intent is for good not evil. In any case, the
same concern (either good or evil) exists whether or not the doors are
installed, so the circuit should be able to operate either way.

Old Crow

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:14:09 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:fjqfh3hq918kcj4nrf6mhgr1mjd0re4s5s@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:41:47 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>My theory was that the same concern about battery life exists whether or
>>>not
>>>the doors are installed. Based on that, I would design the circuit to give
>>>me an alert if the lights were on, the ignition was off, and the door was
>>>open. All of these conditions would mean to the vehicle that the operator
>>>was about to walk away with the lights still on, therefore there ought to
>>>be
>>>an alert that the operator can react to or ignore.
>>>
>>>If the doors were removed, then the only remaining trigger for the alert
>>>would be the lights on and the ignition off. This would not always be an
>>>accurate indicator of the vehicle being unoccupied and abandoned with the
>>>lights on, but it would be the only remaining way for the vehicle to know.
>>>And, since the vehicle wants to keep a battery charge for as long as
>>>possible, the probability of a false warning is better than no warning at
>>>all. I would place the fuse so that the dome light went off but the rest
>>>of
>>>the stuff still worked while the doors were removed.
>>>
>>>Did they actually designed it that way? I don't know, but that's how I
>>>would
>>>design it if it was my job to design that sort of thing.
>>>
>>
>> My Dog, what did you guys do before they put a chime on the lights?
>> I've got 2 Wranglers and a '61 F-100 and there ain't a headlight chime
>> on any of 'em. Can't remember the last time I forgot the headlights.
>> :-)
>
>
>
>They've always had headlight chimes, haven't they? Yours must be broken.
><winky smiley thing>
>
>I agree. But, if one was going to go to the bother of making a headlamp
>chime, the only purpose would be to prevent the operator from walking away
>and leaving the headlamps on. Well, the other reason would be to annoy the
>operator, but I assume the intent is for good not evil. In any case, the
>same concern (either good or evil) exists whether or not the doors are
>installed, so the circuit should be able to operate either way.
>
>

I usually leave the bottom half of the doors on anyway, so for me it's
not an issue. When I do take 'em off, I just reach around the sill
and unplug the wire at the door jamb switch. The driver's side has 2
wires, one of which is for the chime. I disconnected that one 4 years
ago when I got the Jeep(so long I'd forgotten about it until your post
reminded me) and it's been that way ever since. I got tired of being
annoyed<g>.

--
Old Crow "Yol Bolson!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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Old Crow

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:14:09 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:fjqfh3hq918kcj4nrf6mhgr1mjd0re4s5s@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:41:47 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>My theory was that the same concern about battery life exists whether or
>>>not
>>>the doors are installed. Based on that, I would design the circuit to give
>>>me an alert if the lights were on, the ignition was off, and the door was
>>>open. All of these conditions would mean to the vehicle that the operator
>>>was about to walk away with the lights still on, therefore there ought to
>>>be
>>>an alert that the operator can react to or ignore.
>>>
>>>If the doors were removed, then the only remaining trigger for the alert
>>>would be the lights on and the ignition off. This would not always be an
>>>accurate indicator of the vehicle being unoccupied and abandoned with the
>>>lights on, but it would be the only remaining way for the vehicle to know.
>>>And, since the vehicle wants to keep a battery charge for as long as
>>>possible, the probability of a false warning is better than no warning at
>>>all. I would place the fuse so that the dome light went off but the rest
>>>of
>>>the stuff still worked while the doors were removed.
>>>
>>>Did they actually designed it that way? I don't know, but that's how I
>>>would
>>>design it if it was my job to design that sort of thing.
>>>
>>
>> My Dog, what did you guys do before they put a chime on the lights?
>> I've got 2 Wranglers and a '61 F-100 and there ain't a headlight chime
>> on any of 'em. Can't remember the last time I forgot the headlights.
>> :-)
>
>
>
>They've always had headlight chimes, haven't they? Yours must be broken.
><winky smiley thing>
>
>I agree. But, if one was going to go to the bother of making a headlamp
>chime, the only purpose would be to prevent the operator from walking away
>and leaving the headlamps on. Well, the other reason would be to annoy the
>operator, but I assume the intent is for good not evil. In any case, the
>same concern (either good or evil) exists whether or not the doors are
>installed, so the circuit should be able to operate either way.
>
>

I usually leave the bottom half of the doors on anyway, so for me it's
not an issue. When I do take 'em off, I just reach around the sill
and unplug the wire at the door jamb switch. The driver's side has 2
wires, one of which is for the chime. I disconnected that one 4 years
ago when I got the Jeep(so long I'd forgotten about it until your post
reminded me) and it's been that way ever since. I got tired of being
annoyed<g>.

--
Old Crow "Yol Bolson!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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Old Crow

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:14:09 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
<crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>"Old Crow" <walliscrow@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:fjqfh3hq918kcj4nrf6mhgr1mjd0re4s5s@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:41:47 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
>> <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>>My theory was that the same concern about battery life exists whether or
>>>not
>>>the doors are installed. Based on that, I would design the circuit to give
>>>me an alert if the lights were on, the ignition was off, and the door was
>>>open. All of these conditions would mean to the vehicle that the operator
>>>was about to walk away with the lights still on, therefore there ought to
>>>be
>>>an alert that the operator can react to or ignore.
>>>
>>>If the doors were removed, then the only remaining trigger for the alert
>>>would be the lights on and the ignition off. This would not always be an
>>>accurate indicator of the vehicle being unoccupied and abandoned with the
>>>lights on, but it would be the only remaining way for the vehicle to know.
>>>And, since the vehicle wants to keep a battery charge for as long as
>>>possible, the probability of a false warning is better than no warning at
>>>all. I would place the fuse so that the dome light went off but the rest
>>>of
>>>the stuff still worked while the doors were removed.
>>>
>>>Did they actually designed it that way? I don't know, but that's how I
>>>would
>>>design it if it was my job to design that sort of thing.
>>>
>>
>> My Dog, what did you guys do before they put a chime on the lights?
>> I've got 2 Wranglers and a '61 F-100 and there ain't a headlight chime
>> on any of 'em. Can't remember the last time I forgot the headlights.
>> :-)
>
>
>
>They've always had headlight chimes, haven't they? Yours must be broken.
><winky smiley thing>
>
>I agree. But, if one was going to go to the bother of making a headlamp
>chime, the only purpose would be to prevent the operator from walking away
>and leaving the headlamps on. Well, the other reason would be to annoy the
>operator, but I assume the intent is for good not evil. In any case, the
>same concern (either good or evil) exists whether or not the doors are
>installed, so the circuit should be able to operate either way.
>
>

I usually leave the bottom half of the doors on anyway, so for me it's
not an issue. When I do take 'em off, I just reach around the sill
and unplug the wire at the door jamb switch. The driver's side has 2
wires, one of which is for the chime. I disconnected that one 4 years
ago when I got the Jeep(so long I'd forgotten about it until your post
reminded me) and it's been that way ever since. I got tired of being
annoyed<g>.

--
Old Crow "Yol Bolson!"
'82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
'95 YJ Rio Grande
BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM


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JD Adams

Old Crow wrote:

> My Dog, what did you guys do before they put a chime on the lights?
> I've got 2 Wranglers and a '61 F-100 and there ain't a headlight chime
> on any of 'em. Can't remember the last time I forgot the headlights.

Everyone forgets to turn off their headlights.

Once.

JD Adams

Old Crow wrote:

> My Dog, what did you guys do before they put a chime on the lights?
> I've got 2 Wranglers and a '61 F-100 and there ain't a headlight chime
> on any of 'em. Can't remember the last time I forgot the headlights.

Everyone forgets to turn off their headlights.

Once.

JD Adams

Old Crow wrote:

> My Dog, what did you guys do before they put a chime on the lights?
> I've got 2 Wranglers and a '61 F-100 and there ain't a headlight chime
> on any of 'em. Can't remember the last time I forgot the headlights.

Everyone forgets to turn off their headlights.

Once.

L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

LOL
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"JD Adams" <JDAdams@Softcom.Net> wrote in message
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>
> Everyone forgets to turn off their headlights.
>
> Once.
>