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Zelix 09-06-2007 02:32 PM

Re: DOH brakes!
 

"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:LLIDi.129928$TW6.51075@newsfe06.phx...
> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too long.
>
> Camera was at work, so let's go with ye olde time fambly style typovision.
>
>
> Removed rear drums, pads have about 2mm left on the worst shoe, adjustor
> on
> the left is frozen up with dust. Not a problem, easy fix, new spring kit,
> clean everything, new pads. The adjustors jeep used are quite stout
> units.
> The old Chevy was stamped tin.
>
> That was unremarkable, just messy and time consuming with all the fiddly
> bits and springs.
>
> So now on to the fronts. Got the pads, noted that they were thick and
> got to thinking about just how much actually had worn off the fronts.
> Dropped the left side and the outside pad had about 3mm. Ok.. that's
> thin. Then I look at the inside pad. BUGGER! it only has 1mm of
> surface left! (glad they were molded and not riveted) sheesh!
>
> Left side was about 3mm on both pads.
>
> Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons back
> in.
> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that it was
> one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>
> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>
> --
> DougW


I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was the most
painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to get those little
springs on.



c 09-06-2007 02:57 PM

Re: DOH brakes!
 
Zelix wrote:
> "DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:LLIDi.129928$TW6.51075@newsfe06.phx...
>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too long.
>>
>> Camera was at work, so let's go with ye olde time fambly style typovision.
>>
>>
>> Removed rear drums, pads have about 2mm left on the worst shoe, adjustor
>> on
>> the left is frozen up with dust. Not a problem, easy fix, new spring kit,
>> clean everything, new pads. The adjustors jeep used are quite stout
>> units.
>> The old Chevy was stamped tin.
>>
>> That was unremarkable, just messy and time consuming with all the fiddly
>> bits and springs.
>>
>> So now on to the fronts. Got the pads, noted that they were thick and
>> got to thinking about just how much actually had worn off the fronts.
>> Dropped the left side and the outside pad had about 3mm. Ok.. that's
>> thin. Then I look at the inside pad. BUGGER! it only has 1mm of
>> surface left! (glad they were molded and not riveted) sheesh!
>>
>> Left side was about 3mm on both pads.
>>
>> Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons back
>> in.
>> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that it was
>> one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>
>> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>
>> --
>> DougW

>
> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was the most
> painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to get those little
> springs on.
>
>



You did have the brake spring pliers, right?

http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML

Chris

c 09-06-2007 02:57 PM

Re: DOH brakes!
 
Zelix wrote:
> "DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:LLIDi.129928$TW6.51075@newsfe06.phx...
>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too long.
>>
>> Camera was at work, so let's go with ye olde time fambly style typovision.
>>
>>
>> Removed rear drums, pads have about 2mm left on the worst shoe, adjustor
>> on
>> the left is frozen up with dust. Not a problem, easy fix, new spring kit,
>> clean everything, new pads. The adjustors jeep used are quite stout
>> units.
>> The old Chevy was stamped tin.
>>
>> That was unremarkable, just messy and time consuming with all the fiddly
>> bits and springs.
>>
>> So now on to the fronts. Got the pads, noted that they were thick and
>> got to thinking about just how much actually had worn off the fronts.
>> Dropped the left side and the outside pad had about 3mm. Ok.. that's
>> thin. Then I look at the inside pad. BUGGER! it only has 1mm of
>> surface left! (glad they were molded and not riveted) sheesh!
>>
>> Left side was about 3mm on both pads.
>>
>> Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons back
>> in.
>> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that it was
>> one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>
>> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>
>> --
>> DougW

>
> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was the most
> painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to get those little
> springs on.
>
>



You did have the brake spring pliers, right?

http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML

Chris

c 09-06-2007 02:57 PM

Re: DOH brakes!
 
Zelix wrote:
> "DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:LLIDi.129928$TW6.51075@newsfe06.phx...
>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too long.
>>
>> Camera was at work, so let's go with ye olde time fambly style typovision.
>>
>>
>> Removed rear drums, pads have about 2mm left on the worst shoe, adjustor
>> on
>> the left is frozen up with dust. Not a problem, easy fix, new spring kit,
>> clean everything, new pads. The adjustors jeep used are quite stout
>> units.
>> The old Chevy was stamped tin.
>>
>> That was unremarkable, just messy and time consuming with all the fiddly
>> bits and springs.
>>
>> So now on to the fronts. Got the pads, noted that they were thick and
>> got to thinking about just how much actually had worn off the fronts.
>> Dropped the left side and the outside pad had about 3mm. Ok.. that's
>> thin. Then I look at the inside pad. BUGGER! it only has 1mm of
>> surface left! (glad they were molded and not riveted) sheesh!
>>
>> Left side was about 3mm on both pads.
>>
>> Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons back
>> in.
>> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that it was
>> one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>
>> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>
>> --
>> DougW

>
> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was the most
> painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to get those little
> springs on.
>
>



You did have the brake spring pliers, right?

http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML

Chris

c 09-06-2007 02:57 PM

Re: DOH brakes!
 
Zelix wrote:
> "DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:LLIDi.129928$TW6.51075@newsfe06.phx...
>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too long.
>>
>> Camera was at work, so let's go with ye olde time fambly style typovision.
>>
>>
>> Removed rear drums, pads have about 2mm left on the worst shoe, adjustor
>> on
>> the left is frozen up with dust. Not a problem, easy fix, new spring kit,
>> clean everything, new pads. The adjustors jeep used are quite stout
>> units.
>> The old Chevy was stamped tin.
>>
>> That was unremarkable, just messy and time consuming with all the fiddly
>> bits and springs.
>>
>> So now on to the fronts. Got the pads, noted that they were thick and
>> got to thinking about just how much actually had worn off the fronts.
>> Dropped the left side and the outside pad had about 3mm. Ok.. that's
>> thin. Then I look at the inside pad. BUGGER! it only has 1mm of
>> surface left! (glad they were molded and not riveted) sheesh!
>>
>> Left side was about 3mm on both pads.
>>
>> Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons back
>> in.
>> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that it was
>> one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>
>> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>
>> --
>> DougW

>
> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was the most
> painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to get those little
> springs on.
>
>



You did have the brake spring pliers, right?

http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML

Chris

Zelix 09-06-2007 02:59 PM

Re: DOH brakes!
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:46e04d9d$0$28805$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Zelix wrote:
>> "DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:LLIDi.129928$TW6.51075@newsfe06.phx...
>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too long.
>>>
>>> Camera was at work, so let's go with ye olde time fambly style
>>> typovision.
>>>
>>>
>>> Removed rear drums, pads have about 2mm left on the worst shoe, adjustor
>>> on
>>> the left is frozen up with dust. Not a problem, easy fix, new spring
>>> kit,
>>> clean everything, new pads. The adjustors jeep used are quite stout
>>> units.
>>> The old Chevy was stamped tin.
>>>
>>> That was unremarkable, just messy and time consuming with all the fiddly
>>> bits and springs.
>>>
>>> So now on to the fronts. Got the pads, noted that they were thick and
>>> got to thinking about just how much actually had worn off the fronts.
>>> Dropped the left side and the outside pad had about 3mm. Ok.. that's
>>> thin. Then I look at the inside pad. BUGGER! it only has 1mm of
>>> surface left! (glad they were molded and not riveted) sheesh!
>>>
>>> Left side was about 3mm on both pads.
>>>
>>> Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons back
>>> in.
>>> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that it
>>> was
>>> one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>> --
>>> DougW

>>
>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was the most
>> painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to get those little
>> springs on.

>
>
> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>
> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
>
> Chris


Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear misery
getting that last spring on.



Zelix 09-06-2007 02:59 PM

Re: DOH brakes!
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:46e04d9d$0$28805$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Zelix wrote:
>> "DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:LLIDi.129928$TW6.51075@newsfe06.phx...
>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too long.
>>>
>>> Camera was at work, so let's go with ye olde time fambly style
>>> typovision.
>>>
>>>
>>> Removed rear drums, pads have about 2mm left on the worst shoe, adjustor
>>> on
>>> the left is frozen up with dust. Not a problem, easy fix, new spring
>>> kit,
>>> clean everything, new pads. The adjustors jeep used are quite stout
>>> units.
>>> The old Chevy was stamped tin.
>>>
>>> That was unremarkable, just messy and time consuming with all the fiddly
>>> bits and springs.
>>>
>>> So now on to the fronts. Got the pads, noted that they were thick and
>>> got to thinking about just how much actually had worn off the fronts.
>>> Dropped the left side and the outside pad had about 3mm. Ok.. that's
>>> thin. Then I look at the inside pad. BUGGER! it only has 1mm of
>>> surface left! (glad they were molded and not riveted) sheesh!
>>>
>>> Left side was about 3mm on both pads.
>>>
>>> Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons back
>>> in.
>>> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that it
>>> was
>>> one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>> --
>>> DougW

>>
>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was the most
>> painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to get those little
>> springs on.

>
>
> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>
> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
>
> Chris


Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear misery
getting that last spring on.



Zelix 09-06-2007 02:59 PM

Re: DOH brakes!
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:46e04d9d$0$28805$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Zelix wrote:
>> "DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:LLIDi.129928$TW6.51075@newsfe06.phx...
>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too long.
>>>
>>> Camera was at work, so let's go with ye olde time fambly style
>>> typovision.
>>>
>>>
>>> Removed rear drums, pads have about 2mm left on the worst shoe, adjustor
>>> on
>>> the left is frozen up with dust. Not a problem, easy fix, new spring
>>> kit,
>>> clean everything, new pads. The adjustors jeep used are quite stout
>>> units.
>>> The old Chevy was stamped tin.
>>>
>>> That was unremarkable, just messy and time consuming with all the fiddly
>>> bits and springs.
>>>
>>> So now on to the fronts. Got the pads, noted that they were thick and
>>> got to thinking about just how much actually had worn off the fronts.
>>> Dropped the left side and the outside pad had about 3mm. Ok.. that's
>>> thin. Then I look at the inside pad. BUGGER! it only has 1mm of
>>> surface left! (glad they were molded and not riveted) sheesh!
>>>
>>> Left side was about 3mm on both pads.
>>>
>>> Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons back
>>> in.
>>> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that it
>>> was
>>> one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>> --
>>> DougW

>>
>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was the most
>> painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to get those little
>> springs on.

>
>
> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>
> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
>
> Chris


Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear misery
getting that last spring on.



Zelix 09-06-2007 02:59 PM

Re: DOH brakes!
 

"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
news:46e04d9d$0$28805$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Zelix wrote:
>> "DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:LLIDi.129928$TW6.51075@newsfe06.phx...
>>> Well, knew it was time to work on the brakes and almost waited too long.
>>>
>>> Camera was at work, so let's go with ye olde time fambly style
>>> typovision.
>>>
>>>
>>> Removed rear drums, pads have about 2mm left on the worst shoe, adjustor
>>> on
>>> the left is frozen up with dust. Not a problem, easy fix, new spring
>>> kit,
>>> clean everything, new pads. The adjustors jeep used are quite stout
>>> units.
>>> The old Chevy was stamped tin.
>>>
>>> That was unremarkable, just messy and time consuming with all the fiddly
>>> bits and springs.
>>>
>>> So now on to the fronts. Got the pads, noted that they were thick and
>>> got to thinking about just how much actually had worn off the fronts.
>>> Dropped the left side and the outside pad had about 3mm. Ok.. that's
>>> thin. Then I look at the inside pad. BUGGER! it only has 1mm of
>>> surface left! (glad they were molded and not riveted) sheesh!
>>>
>>> Left side was about 3mm on both pads.
>>>
>>> Drained out almost a full brake reservoir when pushing the pistons back
>>> in.
>>> Guess I should have bled them out then, but last time I tried that it
>>> was
>>> one hell of a mess. Easier just to squeeze the fluid back up.
>>>
>>> Now all I need to do is flush the system out. This time I'm going
>>> to pay a good local mechanic to flush the brake system. It's just
>>> too much of a pain to do it solo, even with a vac bleeder.
>>>
>>> --
>>> DougW

>>
>> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was the most
>> painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to get those little
>> springs on.

>
>
> You did have the brake spring pliers, right?
>
> http://www.etoolcart.com/browseprodu...-LIS11260.HTML
>
> Chris


Yes, evidently we didn't know how to use them properly. It was shear misery
getting that last spring on.



XS11E 09-06-2007 04:18 PM

Re: DOH brakes!
 
"Zelix" <nacchisrevenge@[remove this:nospam]yahoo.com> wrote:

> I changed the rear brakes in my 84 explorer with a buddy. It was
> the most painful experience of my life. There must be a trick to
> get those little springs on.


Sure is, you get your buddy to do it, that's why you start any such job
by getting a keg of beer, didn't you know that? ;-)

NOTE: Barbeque works well also.



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