Does X-TREEEMME Cold affect clutch operation?
12-21-2004, 03:40 PM
#21
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Re: Does X-TREEEMME Cold affect clutch operation?
Definitely ..... Clutch surfaces as well a brakes work by the
dissipation of heat (friction) .... the colder it is the better for
heat transferred and you get chatter and slip all at the same time (or
the 'ability' of heat to be transferred drastically changes). The
viscosity of lubrication thickens, tolerances of metal components close
down .
...... and at the very coldest, essentially all molecular motion comes
to a stop.
In article <d7mdnWqBKcVxkFXcRVn-gQ@rogers.com>, SteveBrady
<steve.brady@(remove> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something like -29degC
> THEN include the wind chill.
> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the clutch
> pedal got really stiff.
> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to warm
> up?)....
>
> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>
> sb
>
>
dissipation of heat (friction) .... the colder it is the better for
heat transferred and you get chatter and slip all at the same time (or
the 'ability' of heat to be transferred drastically changes). The
viscosity of lubrication thickens, tolerances of metal components close
down .
...... and at the very coldest, essentially all molecular motion comes
to a stop.
In article <d7mdnWqBKcVxkFXcRVn-gQ@rogers.com>, SteveBrady
<steve.brady@(remove> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something like -29degC
> THEN include the wind chill.
> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the clutch
> pedal got really stiff.
> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to warm
> up?)....
>
> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>
> sb
>
>
12-21-2004, 03:40 PM
#22
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Re: Does X-TREEEMME Cold affect clutch operation?
Definitely ..... Clutch surfaces as well a brakes work by the
dissipation of heat (friction) .... the colder it is the better for
heat transferred and you get chatter and slip all at the same time (or
the 'ability' of heat to be transferred drastically changes). The
viscosity of lubrication thickens, tolerances of metal components close
down .
...... and at the very coldest, essentially all molecular motion comes
to a stop.
In article <d7mdnWqBKcVxkFXcRVn-gQ@rogers.com>, SteveBrady
<steve.brady@(remove> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something like -29degC
> THEN include the wind chill.
> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the clutch
> pedal got really stiff.
> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to warm
> up?)....
>
> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>
> sb
>
>
dissipation of heat (friction) .... the colder it is the better for
heat transferred and you get chatter and slip all at the same time (or
the 'ability' of heat to be transferred drastically changes). The
viscosity of lubrication thickens, tolerances of metal components close
down .
...... and at the very coldest, essentially all molecular motion comes
to a stop.
In article <d7mdnWqBKcVxkFXcRVn-gQ@rogers.com>, SteveBrady
<steve.brady@(remove> wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something like -29degC
> THEN include the wind chill.
> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the clutch
> pedal got really stiff.
> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to warm
> up?)....
>
> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>
> sb
>
>
12-21-2004, 04:18 PM
#23
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Re: Does X-TREEEMME Cold affect clutch operation?
If you have mechanical linkage, when was the last time you greased it?
If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
won't.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something like -29degC
> THEN include the wind chill.
> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the clutch
> pedal got really stiff.
> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to warm
> up?)....
>
> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>
> sb
If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
won't.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something like -29degC
> THEN include the wind chill.
> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the clutch
> pedal got really stiff.
> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to warm
> up?)....
>
> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>
> sb
12-21-2004, 04:18 PM
#24
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Re: Does X-TREEEMME Cold affect clutch operation?
If you have mechanical linkage, when was the last time you greased it?
If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
won't.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something like -29degC
> THEN include the wind chill.
> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the clutch
> pedal got really stiff.
> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to warm
> up?)....
>
> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>
> sb
If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
won't.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something like -29degC
> THEN include the wind chill.
> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the clutch
> pedal got really stiff.
> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to warm
> up?)....
>
> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>
> sb
12-21-2004, 04:18 PM
#25
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Re: Does X-TREEEMME Cold affect clutch operation?
If you have mechanical linkage, when was the last time you greased it?
If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
won't.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something like -29degC
> THEN include the wind chill.
> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the clutch
> pedal got really stiff.
> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to warm
> up?)....
>
> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>
> sb
If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
won't.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SteveBrady wrote:
>
> Hey guys,
>
> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something like -29degC
> THEN include the wind chill.
> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the clutch
> pedal got really stiff.
> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to warm
> up?)....
>
> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>
> sb
12-21-2004, 05:13 PM
#26
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Re: Does X-TREEEMME Cold affect clutch operation?
I take the Jeep in to get it's monthlies....it's still under warrantee and
I'm happy enough taking it in...so, I pay the blind consumer fee and hope
that they do the work I pay them for. But at least I'm abiding by the
warranty!!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41C89322.CA8DBCDC@sympatico.ca...
> If you have mechanical linkage, when was the last time you greased it?
>
> If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
> on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
>
> The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
>
> I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
> shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
> winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
> won't.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SteveBrady wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something
>> like -29degC
>> THEN include the wind chill.
>> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the
>> clutch
>> pedal got really stiff.
>> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to
>> warm
>> up?)....
>>
>> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>>
>> sb
I'm happy enough taking it in...so, I pay the blind consumer fee and hope
that they do the work I pay them for. But at least I'm abiding by the
warranty!!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41C89322.CA8DBCDC@sympatico.ca...
> If you have mechanical linkage, when was the last time you greased it?
>
> If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
> on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
>
> The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
>
> I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
> shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
> winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
> won't.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SteveBrady wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something
>> like -29degC
>> THEN include the wind chill.
>> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the
>> clutch
>> pedal got really stiff.
>> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to
>> warm
>> up?)....
>>
>> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>>
>> sb
12-21-2004, 05:13 PM
#27
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Re: Does X-TREEEMME Cold affect clutch operation?
I take the Jeep in to get it's monthlies....it's still under warrantee and
I'm happy enough taking it in...so, I pay the blind consumer fee and hope
that they do the work I pay them for. But at least I'm abiding by the
warranty!!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41C89322.CA8DBCDC@sympatico.ca...
> If you have mechanical linkage, when was the last time you greased it?
>
> If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
> on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
>
> The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
>
> I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
> shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
> winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
> won't.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SteveBrady wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something
>> like -29degC
>> THEN include the wind chill.
>> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the
>> clutch
>> pedal got really stiff.
>> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to
>> warm
>> up?)....
>>
>> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>>
>> sb
I'm happy enough taking it in...so, I pay the blind consumer fee and hope
that they do the work I pay them for. But at least I'm abiding by the
warranty!!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41C89322.CA8DBCDC@sympatico.ca...
> If you have mechanical linkage, when was the last time you greased it?
>
> If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
> on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
>
> The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
>
> I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
> shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
> winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
> won't.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SteveBrady wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something
>> like -29degC
>> THEN include the wind chill.
>> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the
>> clutch
>> pedal got really stiff.
>> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to
>> warm
>> up?)....
>>
>> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>>
>> sb
12-21-2004, 05:13 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Does X-TREEEMME Cold affect clutch operation?
I take the Jeep in to get it's monthlies....it's still under warrantee and
I'm happy enough taking it in...so, I pay the blind consumer fee and hope
that they do the work I pay them for. But at least I'm abiding by the
warranty!!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41C89322.CA8DBCDC@sympatico.ca...
> If you have mechanical linkage, when was the last time you greased it?
>
> If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
> on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
>
> The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
>
> I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
> shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
> winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
> won't.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SteveBrady wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something
>> like -29degC
>> THEN include the wind chill.
>> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the
>> clutch
>> pedal got really stiff.
>> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to
>> warm
>> up?)....
>>
>> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>>
>> sb
I'm happy enough taking it in...so, I pay the blind consumer fee and hope
that they do the work I pay them for. But at least I'm abiding by the
warranty!!
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:41C89322.CA8DBCDC@sympatico.ca...
> If you have mechanical linkage, when was the last time you greased it?
>
> If not, then rubber parts/boots can get stiff and grease or pivot points
> on the pressure plate and throw out will be stiff.
>
> The internal tranny oil has no bearing on that, only on shifting.
>
> I went with a semi synthetic gear oil and notice the difference in cold
> shifting. My T5 can use a winter fluid though, it can use ATF in the
> winter and gear oil in the summer. Some run ATF all the time, but I
> won't.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SteveBrady wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something
>> like -29degC
>> THEN include the wind chill.
>> Anyhow, on the drive to work doing about 120km/h I noticed that the
>> clutch
>> pedal got really stiff.
>> It definately eased up after I had stopped at a store (had a chance to
>> warm
>> up?)....
>>
>> Was wondering what the temp rating is on the transmission juice?!
>>
>> sb
12-21-2004, 09:07 PM
#29
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Re: Does X-TREEEMME Cold affect clutch operation?
>> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something
>> like -29degC
>> THEN include the wind chill.
It was cold here in FL too, I think it was down to 29F. I had to wear long
pants to work.
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>> like -29degC
>> THEN include the wind chill.
It was cold here in FL too, I think it was down to 29F. I had to wear long
pants to work.
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
12-21-2004, 09:07 PM
#30
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Re: Does X-TREEEMME Cold affect clutch operation?
>> HAd some wicked cold weather here yesterday. It was something
>> like -29degC
>> THEN include the wind chill.
It was cold here in FL too, I think it was down to 29F. I had to wear long
pants to work.
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/
>> like -29degC
>> THEN include the wind chill.
It was cold here in FL too, I think it was down to 29F. I had to wear long
pants to work.
--
_____________________
HomeBrewer
76-81-85CJ7
http://85cj7.blogspot.com/