Exactly, which is why I removed my K&N air filter. Sure it is less
restrictive (which is not needed in my opinion) but it is less
restrictive because it filters the air a hell of a lot less. I'd rather
keep the grinding compounds like dust and silica out of my engine thank
you. :)

Carl wrote:
> Not to mention incresed 'crud' making its way through the air filter and
> into the engine.. Bottom line is K&N is a less restrictive filter. It lets
> more air in, which lets more 'crud' in. Take the air filter off your engine,
> drive around the block and see if you notice a power difference worth paying
> for.
>
> Carl
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:439928b7$0$15352$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>The increased sound level will be of different character, than a less
>>restrictive exhaust would be. You will definitely notice something at
>>first, but after a while maybe not at all. If you want more specific
>>information, I am afraid you will have to find someone, who has it
>>installed
>>already, and actually listen. It's too bad they don't have a sound
>>recording to go along with the dyno graph.
>>
>>Imho, the percentage increase shown is not worth the expense, unless you
>>are
>>towing something and want all the power you can get, or are serious about
>>fuel economy. There are likely to be economy gains with this device too.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave in Colorado" <DontSpam@me.in> wrote in message
>>news:4W8mf.1531$4K2.1504@news.uswest.net...
>>
>>>Just wondering if anyone has installed one of these and used them... and
>>
>>if
>>
>>>they make the thing roar in a noticeable way when just driving around
>>
>>town,
>>
>>>or are out on the highway doing 70-75. My wife has to drive this thing
>>
>>too,
>>
>>>and I don't want the complaining to be louder than the motor. It's a
>>>2000
>>>Grand Cherokee.
>>>
>>>It's a Fuel Injection Performance Kit Gen2, apparently increasing HP by
>>>13.10, or more interestingly, reaching the same HP as the stock engine
>>
>>1000
>>
>>>RPMs lower. (There's a graph.)
>>>
>>>http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...Prod=57-1513-1
>>>
>>>Any comments would be helpful.
>>>
>>>Thanks.... Dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Exactly, which is why I removed my K&N air filter. Sure it is less
restrictive (which is not needed in my opinion) but it is less
restrictive because it filters the air a hell of a lot less. I'd rather
keep the grinding compounds like dust and silica out of my engine thank
you. :)

Carl wrote:
> Not to mention incresed 'crud' making its way through the air filter and
> into the engine.. Bottom line is K&N is a less restrictive filter. It lets
> more air in, which lets more 'crud' in. Take the air filter off your engine,
> drive around the block and see if you notice a power difference worth paying
> for.
>
> Carl
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:439928b7$0$15352$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>The increased sound level will be of different character, than a less
>>restrictive exhaust would be. You will definitely notice something at
>>first, but after a while maybe not at all. If you want more specific
>>information, I am afraid you will have to find someone, who has it
>>installed
>>already, and actually listen. It's too bad they don't have a sound
>>recording to go along with the dyno graph.
>>
>>Imho, the percentage increase shown is not worth the expense, unless you
>>are
>>towing something and want all the power you can get, or are serious about
>>fuel economy. There are likely to be economy gains with this device too.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave in Colorado" <DontSpam@me.in> wrote in message
>>news:4W8mf.1531$4K2.1504@news.uswest.net...
>>
>>>Just wondering if anyone has installed one of these and used them... and
>>
>>if
>>
>>>they make the thing roar in a noticeable way when just driving around
>>
>>town,
>>
>>>or are out on the highway doing 70-75. My wife has to drive this thing
>>
>>too,
>>
>>>and I don't want the complaining to be louder than the motor. It's a
>>>2000
>>>Grand Cherokee.
>>>
>>>It's a Fuel Injection Performance Kit Gen2, apparently increasing HP by
>>>13.10, or more interestingly, reaching the same HP as the stock engine
>>
>>1000
>>
>>>RPMs lower. (There's a graph.)
>>>
>>>http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...Prod=57-1513-1
>>>
>>>Any comments would be helpful.
>>>
>>>Thanks.... Dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Exactly, which is why I removed my K&N air filter. Sure it is less
restrictive (which is not needed in my opinion) but it is less
restrictive because it filters the air a hell of a lot less. I'd rather
keep the grinding compounds like dust and silica out of my engine thank
you. :)

Carl wrote:
> Not to mention incresed 'crud' making its way through the air filter and
> into the engine.. Bottom line is K&N is a less restrictive filter. It lets
> more air in, which lets more 'crud' in. Take the air filter off your engine,
> drive around the block and see if you notice a power difference worth paying
> for.
>
> Carl
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:439928b7$0$15352$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>
>>Dave,
>>
>>The increased sound level will be of different character, than a less
>>restrictive exhaust would be. You will definitely notice something at
>>first, but after a while maybe not at all. If you want more specific
>>information, I am afraid you will have to find someone, who has it
>>installed
>>already, and actually listen. It's too bad they don't have a sound
>>recording to go along with the dyno graph.
>>
>>Imho, the percentage increase shown is not worth the expense, unless you
>>are
>>towing something and want all the power you can get, or are serious about
>>fuel economy. There are likely to be economy gains with this device too.
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"Dave in Colorado" <DontSpam@me.in> wrote in message
>>news:4W8mf.1531$4K2.1504@news.uswest.net...
>>
>>>Just wondering if anyone has installed one of these and used them... and
>>
>>if
>>
>>>they make the thing roar in a noticeable way when just driving around
>>
>>town,
>>
>>>or are out on the highway doing 70-75. My wife has to drive this thing
>>
>>too,
>>
>>>and I don't want the complaining to be louder than the motor. It's a
>>>2000
>>>Grand Cherokee.
>>>
>>>It's a Fuel Injection Performance Kit Gen2, apparently increasing HP by
>>>13.10, or more interestingly, reaching the same HP as the stock engine
>>
>>1000
>>
>>>RPMs lower. (There's a graph.)
>>>
>>>http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...Prod=57-1513-1
>>>
>>>Any comments would be helpful.
>>>
>>>Thanks.... Dave
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm
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Dave in Colorado wrote:
>
> Just wondering if anyone has installed one of these and used them... and if
> they make the thing roar in a noticeable way when just driving around town,
> or are out on the highway doing 70-75. My wife has to drive this thing too,
> and I don't want the complaining to be louder than the motor. It's a 2000
> Grand Cherokee.
>
> It's a Fuel Injection Performance Kit Gen2, apparently increasing HP by
> 13.10, or more interestingly, reaching the same HP as the stock engine 1000
> RPMs lower. (There's a graph.)
>
> http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...Prod=57-1513-1
>
> Any comments would be helpful.
>
> Thanks.... Dave

 

http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave in Colorado wrote:
>
> Just wondering if anyone has installed one of these and used them... and if
> they make the thing roar in a noticeable way when just driving around town,
> or are out on the highway doing 70-75. My wife has to drive this thing too,
> and I don't want the complaining to be louder than the motor. It's a 2000
> Grand Cherokee.
>
> It's a Fuel Injection Performance Kit Gen2, apparently increasing HP by
> 13.10, or more interestingly, reaching the same HP as the stock engine 1000
> RPMs lower. (There's a graph.)
>
> http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...Prod=57-1513-1
>
> Any comments would be helpful.
>
> Thanks.... Dave

 

http://home.usadatanet.net/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Dave in Colorado wrote:
>
> Just wondering if anyone has installed one of these and used them... and if
> they make the thing roar in a noticeable way when just driving around town,
> or are out on the highway doing 70-75. My wife has to drive this thing too,
> and I don't want the complaining to be louder than the motor. It's a 2000
> Grand Cherokee.
>
> It's a Fuel Injection Performance Kit Gen2, apparently increasing HP by
> 13.10, or more interestingly, reaching the same HP as the stock engine 1000
> RPMs lower. (There's a graph.)
>
> http://www.knfilters.com/search/prod...Prod=57-1513-1
>
> Any comments would be helpful.
>
> Thanks.... Dave

 

Billy Ray said:

> If you examine the chart you will see almost no improvement at the RPM
> levels where I generally operate my '02 WJ.

Are you actually trying to talk some sense into me? Don't confuse me with
the facts when my mind is already made up.

But you know, you're dead right. I have been coveting the thing for a few
days now and almost convinced myself I needed it. But coincidentally I
hadn't been driving it for the same few days. I got in it today and drove
about 40 miles total, and am reminded that it has plenty of power. And even
driving over Vail pass and the approach to Eisenhower tunnel (between
western and eastern Colorado) over Thanksgiving pushed thing thing only to
3500 except occasionally while passing AND climbing one of the passes.

While it would be great to have, I just don't know how often I'd really
notice having it.

Dave

 

Billy Ray said:

> If you examine the chart you will see almost no improvement at the RPM
> levels where I generally operate my '02 WJ.

Are you actually trying to talk some sense into me? Don't confuse me with
the facts when my mind is already made up.

But you know, you're dead right. I have been coveting the thing for a few
days now and almost convinced myself I needed it. But coincidentally I
hadn't been driving it for the same few days. I got in it today and drove
about 40 miles total, and am reminded that it has plenty of power. And even
driving over Vail pass and the approach to Eisenhower tunnel (between
western and eastern Colorado) over Thanksgiving pushed thing thing only to
3500 except occasionally while passing AND climbing one of the passes.

While it would be great to have, I just don't know how often I'd really
notice having it.

Dave

 

Billy Ray said:

> If you examine the chart you will see almost no improvement at the RPM
> levels where I generally operate my '02 WJ.

Are you actually trying to talk some sense into me? Don't confuse me with
the facts when my mind is already made up.

But you know, you're dead right. I have been coveting the thing for a few
days now and almost convinced myself I needed it. But coincidentally I
hadn't been driving it for the same few days. I got in it today and drove
about 40 miles total, and am reminded that it has plenty of power. And even
driving over Vail pass and the approach to Eisenhower tunnel (between
western and eastern Colorado) over Thanksgiving pushed thing thing only to
3500 except occasionally while passing AND climbing one of the passes.

While it would be great to have, I just don't know how often I'd really
notice having it.

Dave

 

Earle wrote:

>There are likely to be economy gains with this device too.

I wonder if this is actually true. I would think that because of the recent
high price of gasoline, if it was true why wouldn't K&N market that fact
when they obviously market increases in power.

Dave