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Mike Romain 05-29-2007 11:03 AM

Re: Does GM 3.73 gears fit a 1993 jeep yj? = SnoMan the Stalker
 
SnoMan wrote:
> This is so bizzare but coming from Mike it is no surprize.


It must be nice to have more money than brains. I have a rich brain
dead stalker it would seem.

I prefer to use brains rather than toss money at a non issue.

I have low range in my Jeep. I almost 'never' need 1st low so I
obviously don't need lower gears.

I can rev my 258 to 4400 rpm if needed which gives me 52 mph in 2nd, 3rd
pulls hard to 75 mph, 4th will quickly bury the speedometer and I have
'no' urge to find out how fast 5th will go.

I also get a sweet 23 mpg on the highway by 'not' using overdrive or 5th
gear and have been doing so for over Ten years without damaging my Jeep.

So, once again, go screw yourself and your total --------.

If you 'really' want to play, I am unemployed and have nothing better to
do with my time than to take on and out an internet stalker.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

twaldron 05-29-2007 11:57 AM

Re: Does GM 3.73 gears fit a 1993 jeep yj? = SnoMan the Stalker
 
Yep, you're just using your 4low more often than guys with 33s/4.10s. No
biggie. If it works, it works! I do that as well and that's how I get
away with my setup.

tw


Mike Romain wrote:
> It must be nice to have more money than brains. I have a rich brain
> dead stalker it would seem.
>
> I prefer to use brains rather than toss money at a non issue.
>
> I have low range in my Jeep. I almost 'never' need 1st low so I
> obviously don't need lower gears.
>
> I can rev my 258 to 4400 rpm if needed which gives me 52 mph in 2nd, 3rd
> pulls hard to 75 mph, 4th will quickly bury the speedometer and I have
> 'no' urge to find out how fast 5th will go.
>
> I also get a sweet 23 mpg on the highway by 'not' using overdrive or 5th
> gear and have been doing so for over Ten years without damaging my Jeep.
>
> So, once again, go screw yourself and your total --------.
>
> If you 'really' want to play, I am unemployed and have nothing better to
> do with my time than to take on and out an internet stalker.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



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twaldron 05-29-2007 11:57 AM

Re: Does GM 3.73 gears fit a 1993 jeep yj? = SnoMan the Stalker
 
Yep, you're just using your 4low more often than guys with 33s/4.10s. No
biggie. If it works, it works! I do that as well and that's how I get
away with my setup.

tw


Mike Romain wrote:
> It must be nice to have more money than brains. I have a rich brain
> dead stalker it would seem.
>
> I prefer to use brains rather than toss money at a non issue.
>
> I have low range in my Jeep. I almost 'never' need 1st low so I
> obviously don't need lower gears.
>
> I can rev my 258 to 4400 rpm if needed which gives me 52 mph in 2nd, 3rd
> pulls hard to 75 mph, 4th will quickly bury the speedometer and I have
> 'no' urge to find out how fast 5th will go.
>
> I also get a sweet 23 mpg on the highway by 'not' using overdrive or 5th
> gear and have been doing so for over Ten years without damaging my Jeep.
>
> So, once again, go screw yourself and your total --------.
>
> If you 'really' want to play, I am unemployed and have nothing better to
> do with my time than to take on and out an internet stalker.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



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twaldron 05-29-2007 11:57 AM

Re: Does GM 3.73 gears fit a 1993 jeep yj? = SnoMan the Stalker
 
Yep, you're just using your 4low more often than guys with 33s/4.10s. No
biggie. If it works, it works! I do that as well and that's how I get
away with my setup.

tw


Mike Romain wrote:
> It must be nice to have more money than brains. I have a rich brain
> dead stalker it would seem.
>
> I prefer to use brains rather than toss money at a non issue.
>
> I have low range in my Jeep. I almost 'never' need 1st low so I
> obviously don't need lower gears.
>
> I can rev my 258 to 4400 rpm if needed which gives me 52 mph in 2nd, 3rd
> pulls hard to 75 mph, 4th will quickly bury the speedometer and I have
> 'no' urge to find out how fast 5th will go.
>
> I also get a sweet 23 mpg on the highway by 'not' using overdrive or 5th
> gear and have been doing so for over Ten years without damaging my Jeep.
>
> So, once again, go screw yourself and your total --------.
>
> If you 'really' want to play, I am unemployed and have nothing better to
> do with my time than to take on and out an internet stalker.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



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twaldron 05-29-2007 11:57 AM

Re: Does GM 3.73 gears fit a 1993 jeep yj? = SnoMan the Stalker
 
Yep, you're just using your 4low more often than guys with 33s/4.10s. No
biggie. If it works, it works! I do that as well and that's how I get
away with my setup.

tw


Mike Romain wrote:
> It must be nice to have more money than brains. I have a rich brain
> dead stalker it would seem.
>
> I prefer to use brains rather than toss money at a non issue.
>
> I have low range in my Jeep. I almost 'never' need 1st low so I
> obviously don't need lower gears.
>
> I can rev my 258 to 4400 rpm if needed which gives me 52 mph in 2nd, 3rd
> pulls hard to 75 mph, 4th will quickly bury the speedometer and I have
> 'no' urge to find out how fast 5th will go.
>
> I also get a sweet 23 mpg on the highway by 'not' using overdrive or 5th
> gear and have been doing so for over Ten years without damaging my Jeep.
>
> So, once again, go screw yourself and your total --------.
>
> If you 'really' want to play, I am unemployed and have nothing better to
> do with my time than to take on and out an internet stalker.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



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Mike Romain 05-29-2007 12:16 PM

Re: Does GM 3.73 gears fit a 1993 jeep yj? = SnoMan the Stalker
 
I wheel with lots of folks from this group that have 'proper' ratios and
when we come out of the bush I always need way less gas than them to top
the tank back up too for some strange reason...

I normally run trails in 3rd low.

Mike

twaldron wrote:
> Yep, you're just using your 4low more often than guys with 33s/4.10s. No
> biggie. If it works, it works! I do that as well and that's how I get
> away with my setup.
>
> tw
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> It must be nice to have more money than brains. I have a rich brain
>> dead stalker it would seem.
>>
>> I prefer to use brains rather than toss money at a non issue.
>>
>> I have low range in my Jeep. I almost 'never' need 1st low so I
>> obviously don't need lower gears.
>>
>> I can rev my 258 to 4400 rpm if needed which gives me 52 mph in 2nd,
>> 3rd pulls hard to 75 mph, 4th will quickly bury the speedometer and I
>> have 'no' urge to find out how fast 5th will go.
>>
>> I also get a sweet 23 mpg on the highway by 'not' using overdrive or
>> 5th gear and have been doing so for over Ten years without damaging my
>> Jeep.
>>
>> So, once again, go screw yourself and your total --------.
>>
>> If you 'really' want to play, I am unemployed and have nothing better
>> to do with my time than to take on and out an internet stalker.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>


Mike Romain 05-29-2007 12:16 PM

Re: Does GM 3.73 gears fit a 1993 jeep yj? = SnoMan the Stalker
 
I wheel with lots of folks from this group that have 'proper' ratios and
when we come out of the bush I always need way less gas than them to top
the tank back up too for some strange reason...

I normally run trails in 3rd low.

Mike

twaldron wrote:
> Yep, you're just using your 4low more often than guys with 33s/4.10s. No
> biggie. If it works, it works! I do that as well and that's how I get
> away with my setup.
>
> tw
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> It must be nice to have more money than brains. I have a rich brain
>> dead stalker it would seem.
>>
>> I prefer to use brains rather than toss money at a non issue.
>>
>> I have low range in my Jeep. I almost 'never' need 1st low so I
>> obviously don't need lower gears.
>>
>> I can rev my 258 to 4400 rpm if needed which gives me 52 mph in 2nd,
>> 3rd pulls hard to 75 mph, 4th will quickly bury the speedometer and I
>> have 'no' urge to find out how fast 5th will go.
>>
>> I also get a sweet 23 mpg on the highway by 'not' using overdrive or
>> 5th gear and have been doing so for over Ten years without damaging my
>> Jeep.
>>
>> So, once again, go screw yourself and your total --------.
>>
>> If you 'really' want to play, I am unemployed and have nothing better
>> to do with my time than to take on and out an internet stalker.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>


Mike Romain 05-29-2007 12:16 PM

Re: Does GM 3.73 gears fit a 1993 jeep yj? = SnoMan the Stalker
 
I wheel with lots of folks from this group that have 'proper' ratios and
when we come out of the bush I always need way less gas than them to top
the tank back up too for some strange reason...

I normally run trails in 3rd low.

Mike

twaldron wrote:
> Yep, you're just using your 4low more often than guys with 33s/4.10s. No
> biggie. If it works, it works! I do that as well and that's how I get
> away with my setup.
>
> tw
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> It must be nice to have more money than brains. I have a rich brain
>> dead stalker it would seem.
>>
>> I prefer to use brains rather than toss money at a non issue.
>>
>> I have low range in my Jeep. I almost 'never' need 1st low so I
>> obviously don't need lower gears.
>>
>> I can rev my 258 to 4400 rpm if needed which gives me 52 mph in 2nd,
>> 3rd pulls hard to 75 mph, 4th will quickly bury the speedometer and I
>> have 'no' urge to find out how fast 5th will go.
>>
>> I also get a sweet 23 mpg on the highway by 'not' using overdrive or
>> 5th gear and have been doing so for over Ten years without damaging my
>> Jeep.
>>
>> So, once again, go screw yourself and your total --------.
>>
>> If you 'really' want to play, I am unemployed and have nothing better
>> to do with my time than to take on and out an internet stalker.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>


Mike Romain 05-29-2007 12:16 PM

Re: Does GM 3.73 gears fit a 1993 jeep yj? = SnoMan the Stalker
 
I wheel with lots of folks from this group that have 'proper' ratios and
when we come out of the bush I always need way less gas than them to top
the tank back up too for some strange reason...

I normally run trails in 3rd low.

Mike

twaldron wrote:
> Yep, you're just using your 4low more often than guys with 33s/4.10s. No
> biggie. If it works, it works! I do that as well and that's how I get
> away with my setup.
>
> tw
>
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
>> It must be nice to have more money than brains. I have a rich brain
>> dead stalker it would seem.
>>
>> I prefer to use brains rather than toss money at a non issue.
>>
>> I have low range in my Jeep. I almost 'never' need 1st low so I
>> obviously don't need lower gears.
>>
>> I can rev my 258 to 4400 rpm if needed which gives me 52 mph in 2nd,
>> 3rd pulls hard to 75 mph, 4th will quickly bury the speedometer and I
>> have 'no' urge to find out how fast 5th will go.
>>
>> I also get a sweet 23 mpg on the highway by 'not' using overdrive or
>> 5th gear and have been doing so for over Ten years without damaging my
>> Jeep.
>>
>> So, once again, go screw yourself and your total --------.
>>
>> If you 'really' want to play, I am unemployed and have nothing better
>> to do with my time than to take on and out an internet stalker.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

>
>


Earle Horton 05-29-2007 01:29 PM

Re: Re: Does GM 3.73 gears fit a 1993 jeep yj?
 
Bill and Mike are right. Sos sabelotodo hijo de puta.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
news:ji3o5310ic383l95murrf29c37qkns1kvq@4ax.com...
> This is so bizzare but coming from Mike it is no surprize. He projects
> himself as the macho 4 wheeler Jeep expert,runs bigger tires with tall
> gears and says solution is to forget 5th gear and then Bill agrees
> that is less strain that way without even thinking about the extra
> strain that big tires with stock gears add to complete drive train in
> EVERY gear. You guys gave me a good morning chuckle! Also this logic
> of yours reduces power or wheel torque that you can get to the ground
> which shows you are 4 wheelers in ego not in practice. Getting back to
> orginal post, Chevy gears will not fit a Jeep and even so a 3.73 will
> not solve problem in OD with 35's nor would 4.10 most likley. A 4.56
> would though. There is a mind set with some that a 3.73 or 4.10 is a
> great overall gear but the proper gear ratio depends on the tire size,
> vehicle and engine no one gear does all though some think they do. A
> 3.31 is a very poor gear choice for any off roading with stock or
> especailly larger than stock tires. Anyone that really knows their
> stuff would know this and fix it with proper gearing unless their ego
> is bigger than their understanding of all it how works. Proper gearing
> would give you more performance in all gears, require less usage of
> low range, reduce driveline strain and likely improve MPG too because
> engine will lug less but there are those that think the lower the RPM
> the better the MPG and lower the overall strain. If you vehicle
> requires 60 HP to cruise, it has to have 60 HP regardless of RPM which
> means with tall gears it has to work even harder at a lower rpm to
> cruise when you install bigger tires plus bigger tires add more drag
> for rolling resistance and extra drag from taller vehicle which means
> that you reall need to do more than just match effective gear ratio
> (old ratio and tires vs new ratio and tires) if you want it to perform
> well. You might look at the following charts. This first one shows
> the effect of axle ratio on wheel traction
>
> http://forum.snoman.com/viewtopic.php?t=63
>
>
> This next one show the loss of effective pulling power or wheel torque
> at contact surface as tire size increase without a gear ratio change
>
> http://forum.snoman.com/viewtopic.php?t=53
>
>
> This last one is a tire size and axle ratio calculator that lets you
> compute you engine RPM in drive or any gear that you know the ratio
> for.
>
> http://www.snoman.com/HTML/axlecalc_5a.html
>
> There are two basic groups of 4 wheelers, one group that thinks they
> know what they are doing (Mikes Group) and give up gears on trannies
> and run low range a lot and reduce over all performance and traction
> of road because they think axle ratio gearing does not matter. And
> when tranny or clutch fails or drishaft breaks or Tcase goes south
> they blame it on poor design not improper application by them. Then
> there is the other group (not one Mike suscribes too) that fully
> understands the big picture how important proper gearing is and takes
> the time and expense to regear vehicles properly (rather than hoping
> for air intakes and exhaust modes to "fix" problem) and then they do
> not have tranny, drive shaft or Tcase failures or power loss and they
> also get to use all of the gears too as well as have a vehicle that
> preforms better too on and off road.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 28 May 2007 19:35:16 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >Hi Mike,
> > Agreed, seeing fourth is direct anyway, locking the input with the
> >output, meaning no more wear and tear on your gears.
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
> >"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >news:465b3d58$0$14401$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshost ing.com...
> >> chuck_is_the_god@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> > I have a 1993 Jeep Yj with a 3.5 inch BDS lift, BF Goodrich
> >> > 35x12.50x15 mudders. i need to get this into 5th gear on the highway
> >> > so my qustion is does GM/ford 3.73 gears fit in 1993 jeep yj??
> >> >
> >>
> >> Why do you think you need 5th?
> >>
> >> I had to give up on my 5th gear when I went 33's with my 3.31 gears. I
> >> can use it, but it lugs at 1700 at 65 and then I drink gas. If I keep
> >> it in 4th which gives me a nice 2300 or so at 65 mph, I get 23 mpg.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com





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