Do I need a swaybar?
10-29-2003, 09:03 PM
#41
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Re: Do I need a swaybar?
In article <%SYnb.557$gA.232@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
<twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
>Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
(cough cough)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
>Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
(cough cough)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-29-2003, 09:03 PM
#42
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Re: Do I need a swaybar?
In article <%SYnb.557$gA.232@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
<twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
>Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
(cough cough)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
>Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
(cough cough)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-29-2003, 09:03 PM
#43
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Re: Do I need a swaybar?
In article <%SYnb.557$gA.232@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
<twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
>Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
(cough cough)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
<twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
>Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
(cough cough)
* * *
Matt Macchiarolo
www.townpeddler.com
www.wolverine4wd.org
http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
10-30-2003, 02:31 AM
#44
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Re: Do I need a swaybar?
jackets ? You had jackets ? Luxury !
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Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
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: In article <%SYnb.557$gA.232@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
: <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
:
: >Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
:
: (cough cough)
: * * *
: Matt Macchiarolo
: www.townpeddler.com
: www.wolverine4wd.org
: http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
:
:
:
:
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
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: In article <%SYnb.557$gA.232@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
: <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
:
: >Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
:
: (cough cough)
: * * *
: Matt Macchiarolo
: www.townpeddler.com
: www.wolverine4wd.org
: http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
:
:
:
:
10-30-2003, 02:31 AM
#45
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Re: Do I need a swaybar?
jackets ? You had jackets ? Luxury !
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031029210345.29660.00001360@mb-m24.aol.com...
: In article <%SYnb.557$gA.232@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
: <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
:
: >Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
:
: (cough cough)
: * * *
: Matt Macchiarolo
: www.townpeddler.com
: www.wolverine4wd.org
: http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
:
:
:
:
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
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: In article <%SYnb.557$gA.232@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
: <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
:
: >Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
:
: (cough cough)
: * * *
: Matt Macchiarolo
: www.townpeddler.com
: www.wolverine4wd.org
: http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
:
:
:
:
10-30-2003, 02:31 AM
#46
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Re: Do I need a swaybar?
jackets ? You had jackets ? Luxury !
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031029210345.29660.00001360@mb-m24.aol.com...
: In article <%SYnb.557$gA.232@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
: <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
:
: >Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
:
: (cough cough)
: * * *
: Matt Macchiarolo
: www.townpeddler.com
: www.wolverine4wd.org
: http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
:
:
:
:
--
Dave Milne, Scotland
'99 TJ 4.0 Sahara
"Matt Macchiarolo" <mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon> wrote in message
news:20031029210345.29660.00001360@mb-m24.aol.com...
: In article <%SYnb.557$gA.232@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>, twaldron
: <twaldron@sbcOBVIOUSglobal.net> writes:
:
: >Yes, and people wore asbestos jackets then too. :)
:
: (cough cough)
: * * *
: Matt Macchiarolo
: www.townpeddler.com
: www.wolverine4wd.org
: http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
:
:
:
:
10-30-2003, 09:13 AM
#47
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Re: Do I need a swaybar?
Bzzzzzt!!! Wrong answer! Put it back on.
1) you could roll it on a turn.
2) if you're in an accident and they find out you removed it, you're toast.
3) It's there for a reason. (wow, that was convincing, wasn't it...)
Get a pair of disconnects or make your own
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...etdisconnects/, but keep the bar
on for on-road driving.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310291213.6b103261@posting.google.c om...
> I got tired of putting my swaybar on and off so now it is just
> disconnected and stored in the garage somewhere. I have found the
> difference when driving on the freeway with vs. without it to be
> minimal. I have no plans to put it back on.
1) you could roll it on a turn.
2) if you're in an accident and they find out you removed it, you're toast.
3) It's there for a reason. (wow, that was convincing, wasn't it...)
Get a pair of disconnects or make your own
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...etdisconnects/, but keep the bar
on for on-road driving.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310291213.6b103261@posting.google.c om...
> I got tired of putting my swaybar on and off so now it is just
> disconnected and stored in the garage somewhere. I have found the
> difference when driving on the freeway with vs. without it to be
> minimal. I have no plans to put it back on.
10-30-2003, 09:13 AM
#48
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Re: Do I need a swaybar?
Bzzzzzt!!! Wrong answer! Put it back on.
1) you could roll it on a turn.
2) if you're in an accident and they find out you removed it, you're toast.
3) It's there for a reason. (wow, that was convincing, wasn't it...)
Get a pair of disconnects or make your own
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...etdisconnects/, but keep the bar
on for on-road driving.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310291213.6b103261@posting.google.c om...
> I got tired of putting my swaybar on and off so now it is just
> disconnected and stored in the garage somewhere. I have found the
> difference when driving on the freeway with vs. without it to be
> minimal. I have no plans to put it back on.
1) you could roll it on a turn.
2) if you're in an accident and they find out you removed it, you're toast.
3) It's there for a reason. (wow, that was convincing, wasn't it...)
Get a pair of disconnects or make your own
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...etdisconnects/, but keep the bar
on for on-road driving.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310291213.6b103261@posting.google.c om...
> I got tired of putting my swaybar on and off so now it is just
> disconnected and stored in the garage somewhere. I have found the
> difference when driving on the freeway with vs. without it to be
> minimal. I have no plans to put it back on.
10-30-2003, 09:13 AM
#49
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Re: Do I need a swaybar?
Bzzzzzt!!! Wrong answer! Put it back on.
1) you could roll it on a turn.
2) if you're in an accident and they find out you removed it, you're toast.
3) It's there for a reason. (wow, that was convincing, wasn't it...)
Get a pair of disconnects or make your own
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...etdisconnects/, but keep the bar
on for on-road driving.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310291213.6b103261@posting.google.c om...
> I got tired of putting my swaybar on and off so now it is just
> disconnected and stored in the garage somewhere. I have found the
> difference when driving on the freeway with vs. without it to be
> minimal. I have no plans to put it back on.
1) you could roll it on a turn.
2) if you're in an accident and they find out you removed it, you're toast.
3) It's there for a reason. (wow, that was convincing, wasn't it...)
Get a pair of disconnects or make your own
http://www.rockcrawler.com/techrepor...etdisconnects/, but keep the bar
on for on-road driving.
--
Jim
--
98 TJ SE
90 SJ GW
http://www.delawareja.com/gallery/JDJeep98
"You can do any job in the world with the wrong tool if you try hard
enough..."
"4x4" in caps is "$X$"
"Joshua Nelson" <spam_box@ev1.net> wrote in message
news:b102b6e4.0310291213.6b103261@posting.google.c om...
> I got tired of putting my swaybar on and off so now it is just
> disconnected and stored in the garage somewhere. I have found the
> difference when driving on the freeway with vs. without it to be
> minimal. I have no plans to put it back on.
10-30-2003, 11:12 AM
#50
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Re: Do I need a swaybar?
Sway bars were optional equipment for many years before they became
standard, then after they became standard, there was an optional upgrade to
a stronger one, this eventually became the standard one used.
I think you (and anybody else) needs to check with some sort of safety
department to see if the sway bare is required, or not. I don't have a sway
bar on my CJ, and I really don't think I will suffer any repercussions as a
result. Your mileage may vary.
I think you, Travis, have no worries because I think your CJ never had a
sway bar. You can tell by looking at the spring perches on the bottom of the
springs. There is a stud that sticks out (or up - I forget) about 2 or 3
inches that the sway bar links connect to. If you have these studs, then you
ought to have a sway bar. Of course, the spring perches on a '78 could have
been replaced long ago, but generally these are life-parts that do not get
replaced unless there is other work done to the suspension at the same time,
like a spring change for instance.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kch0qvgu0ev7a4jh3139cm914ufotqo104@4ax.com...
> On 29 Oct 2003 22:49:20 GMT, mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt
> Macchiarolo) shared the following:
>
> >In article <b102b6e4.0310291213.6b103261@posting.google.com >,
spam_box@ev1.net
> >(Joshua Nelson) writes:
> >
> >>I got tired of putting my swaybar on and off so now it is just
> >>disconnected and stored in the garage somewhere. I have found the
> >>difference when driving on the freeway with vs. without it to be
> >>minimal. I have no plans to put it back on.
> >
> >During the accident investigation, you'll have fun explaining to the
police and
> >insurance company why you intentionally removed a safety feature from
your
> >vehicle for on-road operation.
> >* * *
> >Matt Macchiarolo
> >www.townpeddler.com
> >www.wolverine4wd.org
> >http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
> >
> >
> >
>
> I wonder what would happen if you told them you never had a sway bar
> on the vehicle. I mean seriously. My '76 CJ5 doesn't have one on it,
> but it didn't have one on it when I bought it. Not trying to start an
> argument. I'm just curious. If I said "Sway bar? I don't think this
> vehicle is supposed to have one. It doesn't have one right now,
> right?" I wonder what they'd be able to do.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!
standard, then after they became standard, there was an optional upgrade to
a stronger one, this eventually became the standard one used.
I think you (and anybody else) needs to check with some sort of safety
department to see if the sway bare is required, or not. I don't have a sway
bar on my CJ, and I really don't think I will suffer any repercussions as a
result. Your mileage may vary.
I think you, Travis, have no worries because I think your CJ never had a
sway bar. You can tell by looking at the spring perches on the bottom of the
springs. There is a stud that sticks out (or up - I forget) about 2 or 3
inches that the sway bar links connect to. If you have these studs, then you
ought to have a sway bar. Of course, the spring perches on a '78 could have
been replaced long ago, but generally these are life-parts that do not get
replaced unless there is other work done to the suspension at the same time,
like a spring change for instance.
"travis" <travist34removethis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:kch0qvgu0ev7a4jh3139cm914ufotqo104@4ax.com...
> On 29 Oct 2003 22:49:20 GMT, mlmacchia@aol.comspambgon (Matt
> Macchiarolo) shared the following:
>
> >In article <b102b6e4.0310291213.6b103261@posting.google.com >,
spam_box@ev1.net
> >(Joshua Nelson) writes:
> >
> >>I got tired of putting my swaybar on and off so now it is just
> >>disconnected and stored in the garage somewhere. I have found the
> >>difference when driving on the freeway with vs. without it to be
> >>minimal. I have no plans to put it back on.
> >
> >During the accident investigation, you'll have fun explaining to the
police and
> >insurance company why you intentionally removed a safety feature from
your
> >vehicle for on-road operation.
> >* * *
> >Matt Macchiarolo
> >www.townpeddler.com
> >www.wolverine4wd.org
> >http://wolverine4wd.org/rigs/macchiarolo_ml.html
> >
> >
> >
>
> I wonder what would happen if you told them you never had a sway bar
> on the vehicle. I mean seriously. My '76 CJ5 doesn't have one on it,
> but it didn't have one on it when I bought it. Not trying to start an
> argument. I'm just curious. If I said "Sway bar? I don't think this
> vehicle is supposed to have one. It doesn't have one right now,
> right?" I wonder what they'd be able to do.
>
>
> --
> Travis
> http://jeepadventures.dyndns.org/jeep.html
> The meek shall inherit the earth. After I'm finished with it.
> :wq!