Grumman-581

"mud" wrote ...
> VERY dangerous indeed!

Personally, I don't see the big deal about it... When I grew up, all cars
had jacks somewhat similar to the high lift jacks... This was back when cars
were made of solid metal and had bumpers that you could use to lift the
entire vehicle... Yeah, we got shitty gas mileage, but a door ding was when
someone ran into you after running a red light...

Jerry Bransford

"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:MiLRa.91808$TJ.5153911@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
> "mud" wrote ...
> > VERY dangerous indeed!
>
> Personally, I don't see the big deal about it... When I grew up, all cars
> had jacks somewhat similar to the high lift jacks...

If you don't see the big deal about a Hi-Lift's jack danger, then you're in
a very small minority. And all the cars I drove as a kid in the sixties,
plus my '57 Chevy, had jacks that were similar but not NEARLY as tall. None
were near the 48" length of the shortest available Hi-Lift. And why do you
think all the car manufacturers stopped using them? Too many people getting
hurt from them. I remember that like it was yesterday, there were all kinds
of cautions about those jacks... which, again, weren't nearly as tall as a
Hi-Lift is.

Jerry
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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Reminds me of my thirty seven Ford woody:
http://www.----------.com/woody.jpg There was a ding about two inches
round in the front fender, I took the wheel off so I could get a full
swing with a three pound sledge, hit it as hard as I could many times
until I figured out I wasn't strong enough to pop it out.
I worked in gas stations when Volkswagens first became popular and
learned their bumpers were just for looks. And learned with the Japanese
invasion not to lean on the fender while checking oil. Geez, we used to
walk around on our cars while picking fruit or painting or whatever we
needed a ladder for.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Grumman-581 wrote:
>
> "mud" wrote ...
> > VERY dangerous indeed!
>
> Personally, I don't see the big deal about it... When I grew up, all cars
> had jacks somewhat similar to the high lift jacks... This was back when cars
> were made of solid metal and had bumpers that you could use to lift the
> entire vehicle... Yeah, we got shitty gas mileage, but a door ding was when
> someone ran into you after running a red light...

Thomas Waldron

Those were bumper jacks and they coincidentally went away with the
plastic coated bumpers that became the fashion in the 70s along with new
safety standards. I remember seeing those hi-lift type jacks in the back
of my father's car and still can't get used to the size of the jacks
that come these days. I wonder what the stats are on the number of
people who got hurt with the old style vs. the new style.

Jerry Bransford wrote:
> "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:MiLRa.91808$TJ.5153911@twister.austin.rr.com. ..
>
>>"mud" wrote ...
>>
>>>VERY dangerous indeed!
>>
>>Personally, I don't see the big deal about it... When I grew up, all cars
>>had jacks somewhat similar to the high lift jacks...
>
>
> If you don't see the big deal about a Hi-Lift's jack danger, then you're in
> a very small minority. And all the cars I drove as a kid in the sixties,
> plus my '57 Chevy, had jacks that were similar but not NEARLY as tall. None
> were near the 48" length of the shortest available Hi-Lift. And why do you
> think all the car manufacturers stopped using them? Too many people getting
> hurt from them. I remember that like it was yesterday, there were all kinds
> of cautions about those jacks... which, again, weren't nearly as tall as a
> Hi-Lift is.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>


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KurtS

One of the first things I bought after getting my CJ was the Hi-Lift. The
second time I used it, I was checking the guts of my rear brakes - on the
flat, level garage floor. I had just put the wheel back on and had gotten
one or two lugnuts finger tight when I heard a little groan and suddenly the
jeep swung a little sideways, smacking me in the face as it fell. Yeah I
know (now), shoulda used stands too... I considered myself sufficiently
warned at that point, thanked my guardian angel and bought a hydraulic floor
jack that afternoon. I should really put that POS on Ebay.

> From: "Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM.houston.rr.com>
> Organization: Road Runner - Texas
> Newsgroups: alt.jeep-l,rec.autos.makers.jeep+******
> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 05:10:04 GMT
> Subject: Re: do i need a high lift jack?
>
> Personally, I don't see the big deal about it...

Jeff Strickland

I put the jack under the axle.




"Carlo Jr." <carlo.jr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:hhqRa.81430$H17.25613@sccrnsc02...
> could always put a block under the jack......
>
> --
> Carlo F. Serusa, Jr. RPh
> carlo.jr@comcast.net
> '98 Sahara TJ - '89 YJ - '79 Scout II
> O|||||||O
> '92 Explorer '65 Mustang
>
>
> "Tom Eller" <tom@remedypro.com> wrote in message
> news:vaqRa.170566$BA.53454571@twister.columbus.rr. com...
> > Whats the deal with that, I must have the midget jack or something.
> Figures
> > though Chrysler must have given the purple TJs smurf jacks.
> > Guess I'll dig out the stupid thing tomorrow and find out why it only
went
> > up as far as it did.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:qSpRa.11105$u51.8301@fed1read05...
> > > The stock jack works fine even for my 35" tires which require only
2.5"
> > more
> > > jacking height than the stock 30" tire. I wouldn't doubt it's fine
with
> > at
> > > least 37" tires.
> > >
> > > Jerry
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > KC6TAY, PP-ASEL
> > > The Zen Hotdog, make me one with everything!
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >
> > > "Tom Eller" <tom@remedypro.com> wrote in message
> > > news:copRa.170370$BA.53441606@twister.columbus.rr. com...
> > > > My stock jack just barely gets my bald 30s off the ground in my
> garage.
> > > I'm
> > > > going to look for a bottle hydraulic with more travel and keep a
metal
> > > plate
> > > > to use as a base under the back seat, especially I'm getting 31 BFG
> ATs
> > > this
> > > > weekend. The stock jack might just reach but the hydraulics arent
> that
> > > > expensive and a hell of alot nicer than cranking that stupid stock
> jack.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <WLAFFERTY@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1weRa.79766$xg5.37756@twister.austin.rr.com.. .
> > > > > i just bought a '97 tj sport with 31x10.5's.
> > > > > other than that it's stock.
> > > > >
> > > > > do i need a high lift jack to change a tire (on pavement) or will
> the
> > > > stock
> > > > > jack still have enough clearance?
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > will
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III

Hi Thomas,
Bottle and scissors axle jacks were standard on cars sold before
the fifties' low fender skirt:
http://www.draglist.com/photoimages/...by%20Gonzo.jpg
forced people to jack the car up off the tire for clearance. How about
the tire clearance on this old Rambler, where your engine came from:
http://www.nashcarclub.org/nccaphot/fifty/50_5021.html
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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Thomas Waldron wrote:
>
> Those were bumper jacks and they coincidentally went away with the
> plastic coated bumpers that became the fashion in the 70s along with new
> safety standards. I remember seeing those hi-lift type jacks in the back
> of my father's car and still can't get used to the size of the jacks
> that come these days. I wonder what the stats are on the number of
> people who got hurt with the old style vs. the new style.

Tookie

I have a HI-Lift, it works well when used as intended.
Is it a very safe jack? No.
The name should be changed to Hi-Lift Extrication Device,
then people can use the same sensible precautions that
are required with a winch, or a strap, etc.
If it had a decent base plate, it wouldn't be nearly as bad.

Dave Shannon

"Tookie " <tookie@***.net> wrote in message
news:3f18783d.1025071312@news.east.***.net...
> I have a HI-Lift, it works well when used as intended.
> Is it a very safe jack? No.
> The name should be changed to Hi-Lift Extrication Device,
> then people can use the same sensible precautions that
> are required with a winch, or a strap, etc.
> If it had a decent base plate, it wouldn't be nearly as bad.

That's a fact, I bought mine from ---- Cepek back when they only had one
store out in El Cajon, (early 70s) the salesman pointed out the base and
told me how to use it to get out of a high center situation, he then told me
never use it to lift more than one wheel at a time if I used it as a regular
jack and to be damn careful doing that. The '56 CJ is long gone but the
jack remains.
Dave Shannon
daveshan@***.net (Spring Valley CA)
'01 Jeep Wrangler Sahara

Rich Pierson

I remember my grandfathers ~56 caddy [gas cap was hidden under a rear
taillight, had to push a reflector to get the tail light to pop up], that
jack was a blue three legged beast that had chains between the legs to
keep the at a set distance, it also had a crank on top for raising and
lowering.
My dad used it when ever he worked on his 53 ford sunliner and they even
used it to lift one corner of a covered porch to replace some blocks.

"Dave Shannon" <daveshanNoSpaM@***.net> wrote in
news:jO%Ra.872$Ye.73@fed1read02:

>
> "Tookie " <tookie@***.net> wrote in message
> news:3f18783d.1025071312@news.east.***.net...
>> I have a HI-Lift, it works well when used as intended.
>> Is it a very safe jack? No.
>> The name should be changed to Hi-Lift Extrication Device,
>> then people can use the same sensible precautions that
>> are required with a winch, or a strap, etc.
>> If it had a decent base plate, it wouldn't be nearly as bad.
>
> That's a fact, I bought mine from ---- Cepek back when they only had
> one store out in El Cajon, (early 70s) the salesman pointed out the
> base and told me how to use it to get out of a high center situation,
> he then told me never use it to lift more than one wheel at a time if
> I used it as a regular jack and to be damn careful doing that. The
> '56 CJ is long gone but the jack remains.
> Dave Shannon
> daveshan@***.net (Spring Valley CA)
> '01 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
>
>
>
>
>