DIY Painting a TJ, or not DIY painting a TJ
10-05-2004, 06:01 PM
#31
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Re: DIY Painting a TJ, or not DIY painting a TJ
Paul,
Pant cost per gallon (a good paint 3 coats) $200.00
Primer $ 45.00
Anti-Fish -eye $ 85.00
A proper Spray Gun top feed $450.00
Compressor capable of proper CFM delivery $350.00
Oil and air dryer separator from compressor $175.00
Reducer (thinner) $35.00
Airline respirator PAPR $500.00
Miscellaneous supplies $150.00
Total $1990.00
A dust free garage Optional $25,000.00
Knowing how to do a proper Paint Job $$ Priceless
$1250.00 isn't so bad now is it?
HarryS
"pbarton" <pbarton@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:g5p8d.36067$N.2242@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a couple of scrapes and nicks on my 97 TJ. I have been thinking of
> getting it repainted. The first quote for the left front fender, left door
> and minor grill area was for $350. They also quoted me $1250.00 for the
> whole jeep. With that thought, it is a jeep. I purchased the Jeep from the
> 1st owner in private sale. The original color was White and the 1st owner
> had it repainted dark green (metallic), no code number for the new paint.
> I
> have done plenty of bumpers, and under parts with spray cans with black
> paint.
>
>
> Looking at the cost of compressors, spray nozzles, and car port
> canopies...
> I figure I could buy a new compressor (4 hp with at least a 8 gallons
> reserve, 120psi), air regulator/filter, a ¼ in hose, air spray gun, a
> small
> portable canopy with 3mil plastic all around, spray mask, and paint for
> less
> than $350.
>
> I have a couple of questions:
>
> 1. Where do I find local (Houston, TX) company that matches and sells
> paint
> for autos?
>
> 2. Am I crazy for thinking I can do this, any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul pbarton@houston.rr.com
>
>
Pant cost per gallon (a good paint 3 coats) $200.00
Primer $ 45.00
Anti-Fish -eye $ 85.00
A proper Spray Gun top feed $450.00
Compressor capable of proper CFM delivery $350.00
Oil and air dryer separator from compressor $175.00
Reducer (thinner) $35.00
Airline respirator PAPR $500.00
Miscellaneous supplies $150.00
Total $1990.00
A dust free garage Optional $25,000.00
Knowing how to do a proper Paint Job $$ Priceless
$1250.00 isn't so bad now is it?
HarryS
"pbarton" <pbarton@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:g5p8d.36067$N.2242@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a couple of scrapes and nicks on my 97 TJ. I have been thinking of
> getting it repainted. The first quote for the left front fender, left door
> and minor grill area was for $350. They also quoted me $1250.00 for the
> whole jeep. With that thought, it is a jeep. I purchased the Jeep from the
> 1st owner in private sale. The original color was White and the 1st owner
> had it repainted dark green (metallic), no code number for the new paint.
> I
> have done plenty of bumpers, and under parts with spray cans with black
> paint.
>
>
> Looking at the cost of compressors, spray nozzles, and car port
> canopies...
> I figure I could buy a new compressor (4 hp with at least a 8 gallons
> reserve, 120psi), air regulator/filter, a ¼ in hose, air spray gun, a
> small
> portable canopy with 3mil plastic all around, spray mask, and paint for
> less
> than $350.
>
> I have a couple of questions:
>
> 1. Where do I find local (Houston, TX) company that matches and sells
> paint
> for autos?
>
> 2. Am I crazy for thinking I can do this, any thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul pbarton@houston.rr.com
>
>
10-06-2004, 03:20 AM
#32
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Re: DIY Painting a TJ, or not DIY painting a TJ
If you are not shooting the modern basecoat-clearcoat hi solids ----
you do not need the top feed gun. Period.
A regular garage will work and dust is controllable with the old line
tools like mops and properly rigged shop-vacs. You do not need to
spend $25K. Hire the neighbor kid to clean out the gearage.
The best paint for beginners is John Deere or IH tractor paint. The
colors are easy to match and not unattractive. Price is right. A small
amount of isocyanate hardener is added for a diamond-cutter auto grade
finish.
A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
burn Jet Fuel.)
you do not need the top feed gun. Period.
A regular garage will work and dust is controllable with the old line
tools like mops and properly rigged shop-vacs. You do not need to
spend $25K. Hire the neighbor kid to clean out the gearage.
The best paint for beginners is John Deere or IH tractor paint. The
colors are easy to match and not unattractive. Price is right. A small
amount of isocyanate hardener is added for a diamond-cutter auto grade
finish.
A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
burn Jet Fuel.)
10-06-2004, 03:20 AM
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: DIY Painting a TJ, or not DIY painting a TJ
If you are not shooting the modern basecoat-clearcoat hi solids ----
you do not need the top feed gun. Period.
A regular garage will work and dust is controllable with the old line
tools like mops and properly rigged shop-vacs. You do not need to
spend $25K. Hire the neighbor kid to clean out the gearage.
The best paint for beginners is John Deere or IH tractor paint. The
colors are easy to match and not unattractive. Price is right. A small
amount of isocyanate hardener is added for a diamond-cutter auto grade
finish.
A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
burn Jet Fuel.)
you do not need the top feed gun. Period.
A regular garage will work and dust is controllable with the old line
tools like mops and properly rigged shop-vacs. You do not need to
spend $25K. Hire the neighbor kid to clean out the gearage.
The best paint for beginners is John Deere or IH tractor paint. The
colors are easy to match and not unattractive. Price is right. A small
amount of isocyanate hardener is added for a diamond-cutter auto grade
finish.
A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
burn Jet Fuel.)
10-06-2004, 03:20 AM
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: DIY Painting a TJ, or not DIY painting a TJ
If you are not shooting the modern basecoat-clearcoat hi solids ----
you do not need the top feed gun. Period.
A regular garage will work and dust is controllable with the old line
tools like mops and properly rigged shop-vacs. You do not need to
spend $25K. Hire the neighbor kid to clean out the gearage.
The best paint for beginners is John Deere or IH tractor paint. The
colors are easy to match and not unattractive. Price is right. A small
amount of isocyanate hardener is added for a diamond-cutter auto grade
finish.
A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
burn Jet Fuel.)
you do not need the top feed gun. Period.
A regular garage will work and dust is controllable with the old line
tools like mops and properly rigged shop-vacs. You do not need to
spend $25K. Hire the neighbor kid to clean out the gearage.
The best paint for beginners is John Deere or IH tractor paint. The
colors are easy to match and not unattractive. Price is right. A small
amount of isocyanate hardener is added for a diamond-cutter auto grade
finish.
A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
burn Jet Fuel.)
10-06-2004, 08:30 AM
#35
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Re: DIY Painting a TJ, or not DIY painting a TJ
> A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
> painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
> Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
> could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
> burn Jet Fuel.)
Lettuce-*** ???? =George Double-Ya ??
A jet fuel burning J**P. :)
Snow...
10-06-2004, 08:30 AM
#36
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Re: DIY Painting a TJ, or not DIY painting a TJ
> A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
> painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
> Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
> could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
> burn Jet Fuel.)
Lettuce-*** ???? =George Double-Ya ??
A jet fuel burning J**P. :)
Snow...
10-06-2004, 08:30 AM
#37
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Re: DIY Painting a TJ, or not DIY painting a TJ
> A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
> painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
> Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
> could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
> burn Jet Fuel.)
Lettuce-*** ???? =George Double-Ya ??
A jet fuel burning J**P. :)
Snow...
10-06-2004, 07:42 PM
#38
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Re: DIY Painting a TJ, or not DIY painting a TJ
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message news:<3wR8d.18893$jj2.918246@news20.bellglobal.com >...
> > A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
> > painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
> > Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
> > could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
> > burn Jet Fuel.)
>
> Lettuce-*** ???? =George Double-Ya ??
Ya never heard of Romain lettuce?
>
> A jet fuel burning J**P. :)
I think they had Isuzu or Mits engines. Top speed was like 25 mph as
they were geared really, really low. Almost any diesel will burn JP-5,
which is Jet A, if the fuel pump will handle the low lubricity.
Probably they specified a hardened pump (although the Euro low sulfur
diesel has exactly the same lubricity spec as JP-5) or maybe told 'em
to put in a little 30 weight oil. I have run MBZ diesels on Jet A for
years and never tore up a pump but I usually added either outboard oil
or Power Service.
> > A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
> > painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
> > Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
> > could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
> > burn Jet Fuel.)
>
> Lettuce-*** ???? =George Double-Ya ??
Ya never heard of Romain lettuce?
>
> A jet fuel burning J**P. :)
I think they had Isuzu or Mits engines. Top speed was like 25 mph as
they were geared really, really low. Almost any diesel will burn JP-5,
which is Jet A, if the fuel pump will handle the low lubricity.
Probably they specified a hardened pump (although the Euro low sulfur
diesel has exactly the same lubricity spec as JP-5) or maybe told 'em
to put in a little 30 weight oil. I have run MBZ diesels on Jet A for
years and never tore up a pump but I usually added either outboard oil
or Power Service.
10-06-2004, 07:42 PM
#39
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Re: DIY Painting a TJ, or not DIY painting a TJ
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message news:<3wR8d.18893$jj2.918246@news20.bellglobal.com >...
> > A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
> > painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
> > Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
> > could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
> > burn Jet Fuel.)
>
> Lettuce-*** ???? =George Double-Ya ??
Ya never heard of Romain lettuce?
>
> A jet fuel burning J**P. :)
I think they had Isuzu or Mits engines. Top speed was like 25 mph as
they were geared really, really low. Almost any diesel will burn JP-5,
which is Jet A, if the fuel pump will handle the low lubricity.
Probably they specified a hardened pump (although the Euro low sulfur
diesel has exactly the same lubricity spec as JP-5) or maybe told 'em
to put in a little 30 weight oil. I have run MBZ diesels on Jet A for
years and never tore up a pump but I usually added either outboard oil
or Power Service.
> > A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
> > painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
> > Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
> > could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
> > burn Jet Fuel.)
>
> Lettuce-*** ???? =George Double-Ya ??
Ya never heard of Romain lettuce?
>
> A jet fuel burning J**P. :)
I think they had Isuzu or Mits engines. Top speed was like 25 mph as
they were geared really, really low. Almost any diesel will burn JP-5,
which is Jet A, if the fuel pump will handle the low lubricity.
Probably they specified a hardened pump (although the Euro low sulfur
diesel has exactly the same lubricity spec as JP-5) or maybe told 'em
to put in a little 30 weight oil. I have run MBZ diesels on Jet A for
years and never tore up a pump but I usually added either outboard oil
or Power Service.
10-06-2004, 07:42 PM
#40
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Posts: n/a
Re: DIY Painting a TJ, or not DIY painting a TJ
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message news:<3wR8d.18893$jj2.918246@news20.bellglobal.com >...
> > A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
> > painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
> > Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
> > could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
> > burn Jet Fuel.)
>
> Lettuce-*** ???? =George Double-Ya ??
Ya never heard of Romain lettuce?
>
> A jet fuel burning J**P. :)
I think they had Isuzu or Mits engines. Top speed was like 25 mph as
they were geared really, really low. Almost any diesel will burn JP-5,
which is Jet A, if the fuel pump will handle the low lubricity.
Probably they specified a hardened pump (although the Euro low sulfur
diesel has exactly the same lubricity spec as JP-5) or maybe told 'em
to put in a little 30 weight oil. I have run MBZ diesels on Jet A for
years and never tore up a pump but I usually added either outboard oil
or Power Service.
> > A lot of people paint a car (an old beater car) as practice for
> > painting a homebuilt or restored airplane. Before Lettuce-*** from
> > Canada says anything...you can use a Jeep too. Or the ramp tug (which
> > could be a Jeep in drag with a tow bar and a factory diesel so it will
> > burn Jet Fuel.)
>
> Lettuce-*** ???? =George Double-Ya ??
Ya never heard of Romain lettuce?
>
> A jet fuel burning J**P. :)
I think they had Isuzu or Mits engines. Top speed was like 25 mph as
they were geared really, really low. Almost any diesel will burn JP-5,
which is Jet A, if the fuel pump will handle the low lubricity.
Probably they specified a hardened pump (although the Euro low sulfur
diesel has exactly the same lubricity spec as JP-5) or maybe told 'em
to put in a little 30 weight oil. I have run MBZ diesels on Jet A for
years and never tore up a pump but I usually added either outboard oil
or Power Service.
