Disappointed
#51
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Re: Disappointed
We have a place called 'test hill' that is a sand pit with big walls to
climb.
I have been in one Jeep and watched another Jeep 4.0 engine walk up this
hill using no throttle at all.
I even have photos of the one gent walking outside his TJ while it is
driving itself up the hill.
Try it you might like it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
DHead wrote:
>
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
climb.
I have been in one Jeep and watched another Jeep 4.0 engine walk up this
hill using no throttle at all.
I even have photos of the one gent walking outside his TJ while it is
driving itself up the hill.
Try it you might like it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
DHead wrote:
>
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
#52
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Posts: n/a
Re: Disappointed
We have a place called 'test hill' that is a sand pit with big walls to
climb.
I have been in one Jeep and watched another Jeep 4.0 engine walk up this
hill using no throttle at all.
I even have photos of the one gent walking outside his TJ while it is
driving itself up the hill.
Try it you might like it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
DHead wrote:
>
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
climb.
I have been in one Jeep and watched another Jeep 4.0 engine walk up this
hill using no throttle at all.
I even have photos of the one gent walking outside his TJ while it is
driving itself up the hill.
Try it you might like it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
DHead wrote:
>
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
#53
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Posts: n/a
Re: Disappointed
We have a place called 'test hill' that is a sand pit with big walls to
climb.
I have been in one Jeep and watched another Jeep 4.0 engine walk up this
hill using no throttle at all.
I even have photos of the one gent walking outside his TJ while it is
driving itself up the hill.
Try it you might like it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
DHead wrote:
>
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
climb.
I have been in one Jeep and watched another Jeep 4.0 engine walk up this
hill using no throttle at all.
I even have photos of the one gent walking outside his TJ while it is
driving itself up the hill.
Try it you might like it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
DHead wrote:
>
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
#54
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Re: Disappointed
Nope. My '01 has 3.55s.
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
--
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tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Jerry Bransford wrote:
> A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#55
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Re: Disappointed
Nope. My '01 has 3.55s.
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#56
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Re: Disappointed
Nope. My '01 has 3.55s.
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#57
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Re: Disappointed
Nope. My '01 has 3.55s.
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Jerry Bransford wrote:
> A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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#58
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Re: Disappointed
My '01 has a D35 in it.
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any
> D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH.
>
> Brian
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any
> D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH.
>
> Brian
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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__________________________________________________ _________
#59
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Re: Disappointed
My '01 has a D35 in it.
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any
> D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH.
>
> Brian
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any
> D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH.
>
> Brian
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
#60
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Re: Disappointed
My '01 has a D35 in it.
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any
> D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH.
>
> Brian
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
Bulletsnbrains wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any
> D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH.
>
> Brian
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________