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Re: Disappointed
Get those axle's locked (your old one probably had atleast limited slip) and
you'll see a huge difference. nick "DHead" <drlocke@dslextreme.com> wrote in message news:10f34ikj9p6dkcc@corp.supernews.com... > I hope this generates a lot of feedback. > I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000 > GMC Z71 for this vehicle. > I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have > anything else to compare the XJ to. > BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the comparison. > The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot > of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of pedal > to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol it > would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that > hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My > friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no > strain. > My Z71 would have made it just above idol. > Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much. > Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front > window in disgust. > > On hope and prayer > Gary > > |
Re: Disappointed
Jerry,
It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH. Brian "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:gqkIc.1467$z37.431@fed1read05... > A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > "Bulletsnbrains" <Bulletsnbrains@mungedemailaddy.net> wrote in message > news:W7jIc.35621$eH1.16883465@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > > FYI, My 01 XJ w/auto, has 3.55 gears and open diffs. > > > > Brian > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:5_hIc.1415$z37.1103@fed1read05... > > > Gary, it sounds like the axle is geared too high, possibly a 3.07. > > Changing > > > it for a 3.73 or even a 4.10 if your tires are bigger would fix the > power > > > problem if your axle's current ratio is 3.07. Look for the axle ratio > > > embossed into a steel tag between two bolts on either of your two axle's > > > differential covers. > > > > > > Jerry > > > -- > > > Jerry Bransford > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > DHead wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I hope this generates a lot of feedback. > > > > > I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded > a > > > 2000 > > > > > GMC Z71 for this vehicle. > > > > > I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't > have > > > > > anything else to compare the XJ to. > > > > > BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the > > > comparison. > > > > > The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was > a > > > lot > > > > > of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot > of > > > pedal > > > > > to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to > > idol > > > it > > > > > would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up > > that > > > > > hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was > > warranted. > > > My > > > > > friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol > with > > > no > > > > > strain. > > > > > My Z71 would have made it just above idol. > > > > > Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much. > > > > > Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships > > front > > > > > window in disgust. > > > > > > > > > > On hope and prayer > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Disappointed
Jerry,
It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH. Brian "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:gqkIc.1467$z37.431@fed1read05... > A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > "Bulletsnbrains" <Bulletsnbrains@mungedemailaddy.net> wrote in message > news:W7jIc.35621$eH1.16883465@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > > FYI, My 01 XJ w/auto, has 3.55 gears and open diffs. > > > > Brian > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:5_hIc.1415$z37.1103@fed1read05... > > > Gary, it sounds like the axle is geared too high, possibly a 3.07. > > Changing > > > it for a 3.73 or even a 4.10 if your tires are bigger would fix the > power > > > problem if your axle's current ratio is 3.07. Look for the axle ratio > > > embossed into a steel tag between two bolts on either of your two axle's > > > differential covers. > > > > > > Jerry > > > -- > > > Jerry Bransford > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > DHead wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I hope this generates a lot of feedback. > > > > > I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded > a > > > 2000 > > > > > GMC Z71 for this vehicle. > > > > > I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't > have > > > > > anything else to compare the XJ to. > > > > > BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the > > > comparison. > > > > > The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was > a > > > lot > > > > > of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot > of > > > pedal > > > > > to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to > > idol > > > it > > > > > would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up > > that > > > > > hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was > > warranted. > > > My > > > > > friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol > with > > > no > > > > > strain. > > > > > My Z71 would have made it just above idol. > > > > > Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much. > > > > > Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships > > front > > > > > window in disgust. > > > > > > > > > > On hope and prayer > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Disappointed
Jerry,
It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH. Brian "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:gqkIc.1467$z37.431@fed1read05... > A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > "Bulletsnbrains" <Bulletsnbrains@mungedemailaddy.net> wrote in message > news:W7jIc.35621$eH1.16883465@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > > FYI, My 01 XJ w/auto, has 3.55 gears and open diffs. > > > > Brian > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:5_hIc.1415$z37.1103@fed1read05... > > > Gary, it sounds like the axle is geared too high, possibly a 3.07. > > Changing > > > it for a 3.73 or even a 4.10 if your tires are bigger would fix the > power > > > problem if your axle's current ratio is 3.07. Look for the axle ratio > > > embossed into a steel tag between two bolts on either of your two axle's > > > differential covers. > > > > > > Jerry > > > -- > > > Jerry Bransford > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > DHead wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I hope this generates a lot of feedback. > > > > > I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded > a > > > 2000 > > > > > GMC Z71 for this vehicle. > > > > > I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't > have > > > > > anything else to compare the XJ to. > > > > > BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the > > > comparison. > > > > > The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was > a > > > lot > > > > > of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot > of > > > pedal > > > > > to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to > > idol > > > it > > > > > would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up > > that > > > > > hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was > > warranted. > > > My > > > > > friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol > with > > > no > > > > > strain. > > > > > My Z71 would have made it just above idol. > > > > > Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much. > > > > > Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships > > front > > > > > window in disgust. > > > > > > > > > > On hope and prayer > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Disappointed
Jerry,
It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH. Brian "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:gqkIc.1467$z37.431@fed1read05... > A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was 1977. > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > "Bulletsnbrains" <Bulletsnbrains@mungedemailaddy.net> wrote in message > news:W7jIc.35621$eH1.16883465@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com... > > FYI, My 01 XJ w/auto, has 3.55 gears and open diffs. > > > > Brian > > > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > news:5_hIc.1415$z37.1103@fed1read05... > > > Gary, it sounds like the axle is geared too high, possibly a 3.07. > > Changing > > > it for a 3.73 or even a 4.10 if your tires are bigger would fix the > power > > > problem if your axle's current ratio is 3.07. Look for the axle ratio > > > embossed into a steel tag between two bolts on either of your two axle's > > > differential covers. > > > > > > Jerry > > > -- > > > Jerry Bransford > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > DHead wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I hope this generates a lot of feedback. > > > > > I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded > a > > > 2000 > > > > > GMC Z71 for this vehicle. > > > > > I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't > have > > > > > anything else to compare the XJ to. > > > > > BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the > > > comparison. > > > > > The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was > a > > > lot > > > > > of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot > of > > > pedal > > > > > to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to > > idol > > > it > > > > > would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up > > that > > > > > hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was > > warranted. > > > My > > > > > friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol > with > > > no > > > > > strain. > > > > > My Z71 would have made it just above idol. > > > > > Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much. > > > > > Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships > > front > > > > > window in disgust. > > > > > > > > > > On hope and prayer > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > > > > |
Re: Disappointed
The Dana 35c is still listed in the '01 Factory Service Manual:
http://www.----------.com/01xjDiffs.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Bulletsnbrains wrote: > > Jerry, > > It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any > D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH. > > Brian |
Re: Disappointed
The Dana 35c is still listed in the '01 Factory Service Manual:
http://www.----------.com/01xjDiffs.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Bulletsnbrains wrote: > > Jerry, > > It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any > D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH. > > Brian |
Re: Disappointed
The Dana 35c is still listed in the '01 Factory Service Manual:
http://www.----------.com/01xjDiffs.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Bulletsnbrains wrote: > > Jerry, > > It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any > D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH. > > Brian |
Re: Disappointed
The Dana 35c is still listed in the '01 Factory Service Manual:
http://www.----------.com/01xjDiffs.jpg God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Bulletsnbrains wrote: > > Jerry, > > It also came with the 8.25" Chrysler rear diff. I'm not sure there were any > D35c diffs used in '01 XJ's... HTH. > > Brian |
Re: Disappointed
We have a place called 'test hill' that is a sand pit with big walls to
climb. I have been in one Jeep and watched another Jeep 4.0 engine walk up this hill using no throttle at all. I even have photos of the one gent walking outside his TJ while it is driving itself up the hill. Try it you might like it. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's DHead wrote: > > I hope this generates a lot of feedback. > I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000 > GMC Z71 for this vehicle. > I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have > anything else to compare the XJ to. > BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the comparison. > The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot > of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of pedal > to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol it > would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that > hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My > friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no > strain. > My Z71 would have made it just above idol. > Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much. > Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front > window in disgust. > > On hope and prayer > Gary |
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