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Matt Macchiarolo 07-11-2004 10:15 PM

Re: Disappointed
 
So it would stand to reason that my '93 had 3.55. :-)

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:BIkIc.1470$z37.694@fed1read05...
> Oops, I meant to say that I thought the last year for 3.55 gearing was

1997,
> not 1977 that seems like only yesterday to me. ;) But apparently, that
> only applies to Wrangler TJs, not Cherokees.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:gqkIc.1467$z37.431@fed1read05...
> > A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was

> 1977.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > "Bulletsnbrains" <Bulletsnbrains@mungedemailaddy.net> wrote in message
> > news:W7jIc.35621$eH1.16883465@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > FYI, My 01 XJ w/auto, has 3.55 gears and open diffs.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:5_hIc.1415$z37.1103@fed1read05...
> > > > Gary, it sounds like the axle is geared too high, possibly a 3.07.
> > > Changing
> > > > it for a 3.73 or even a 4.10 if your tires are bigger would fix the

> > power
> > > > problem if your axle's current ratio is 3.07. Look for the axle

ratio
> > > > embossed into a steel tag between two bolts on either of your two

> axle's
> > > > differential covers.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > > --
> > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > > DHead wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> > > > > > I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I

> traded
> > a
> > > > 2000
> > > > > > GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> > > > > > I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't

> > have
> > > > > > anything else to compare the XJ to.
> > > > > > BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the
> > > > comparison.
> > > > > > The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There

> was
> > a
> > > > lot
> > > > > > of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a

> lot
> > of
> > > > pedal
> > > > > > to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close

> to
> > > idol
> > > > it
> > > > > > would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get

> up
> > > that
> > > > > > hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was
> > > warranted.
> > > > My
> > > > > > friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at

idol
> > with
> > > > no
> > > > > > strain.
> > > > > > My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> > > > > > Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> > > > > > Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the

dealerships
> > > front
> > > > > > window in disgust.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On hope and prayer
> > > > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 07-11-2004 10:15 PM

Re: Disappointed
 
So it would stand to reason that my '93 had 3.55. :-)

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:BIkIc.1470$z37.694@fed1read05...
> Oops, I meant to say that I thought the last year for 3.55 gearing was

1997,
> not 1977 that seems like only yesterday to me. ;) But apparently, that
> only applies to Wrangler TJs, not Cherokees.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:gqkIc.1467$z37.431@fed1read05...
> > A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was

> 1977.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > "Bulletsnbrains" <Bulletsnbrains@mungedemailaddy.net> wrote in message
> > news:W7jIc.35621$eH1.16883465@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > FYI, My 01 XJ w/auto, has 3.55 gears and open diffs.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:5_hIc.1415$z37.1103@fed1read05...
> > > > Gary, it sounds like the axle is geared too high, possibly a 3.07.
> > > Changing
> > > > it for a 3.73 or even a 4.10 if your tires are bigger would fix the

> > power
> > > > problem if your axle's current ratio is 3.07. Look for the axle

ratio
> > > > embossed into a steel tag between two bolts on either of your two

> axle's
> > > > differential covers.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > > --
> > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > > DHead wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> > > > > > I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I

> traded
> > a
> > > > 2000
> > > > > > GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> > > > > > I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't

> > have
> > > > > > anything else to compare the XJ to.
> > > > > > BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the
> > > > comparison.
> > > > > > The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There

> was
> > a
> > > > lot
> > > > > > of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a

> lot
> > of
> > > > pedal
> > > > > > to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close

> to
> > > idol
> > > > it
> > > > > > would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get

> up
> > > that
> > > > > > hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was
> > > warranted.
> > > > My
> > > > > > friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at

idol
> > with
> > > > no
> > > > > > strain.
> > > > > > My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> > > > > > Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> > > > > > Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the

dealerships
> > > front
> > > > > > window in disgust.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On hope and prayer
> > > > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 07-11-2004 10:15 PM

Re: Disappointed
 
So it would stand to reason that my '93 had 3.55. :-)

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:BIkIc.1470$z37.694@fed1read05...
> Oops, I meant to say that I thought the last year for 3.55 gearing was

1997,
> not 1977 that seems like only yesterday to me. ;) But apparently, that
> only applies to Wrangler TJs, not Cherokees.
>
> Jerry
>
> --
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:gqkIc.1467$z37.431@fed1read05...
> > A 2001 came with 3.55 gearing??? I thought the last year for 3.55 was

> 1977.
> >
> > Jerry
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > "Bulletsnbrains" <Bulletsnbrains@mungedemailaddy.net> wrote in message
> > news:W7jIc.35621$eH1.16883465@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > FYI, My 01 XJ w/auto, has 3.55 gears and open diffs.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > news:5_hIc.1415$z37.1103@fed1read05...
> > > > Gary, it sounds like the axle is geared too high, possibly a 3.07.
> > > Changing
> > > > it for a 3.73 or even a 4.10 if your tires are bigger would fix the

> > power
> > > > problem if your axle's current ratio is 3.07. Look for the axle

ratio
> > > > embossed into a steel tag between two bolts on either of your two

> axle's
> > > > differential covers.
> > > >
> > > > Jerry
> > > > --
> > > > Jerry Bransford
> > > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> > > > DHead wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> > > > > > I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I

> traded
> > a
> > > > 2000
> > > > > > GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> > > > > > I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't

> > have
> > > > > > anything else to compare the XJ to.
> > > > > > BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the
> > > > comparison.
> > > > > > The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There

> was
> > a
> > > > lot
> > > > > > of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a

> lot
> > of
> > > > pedal
> > > > > > to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close

> to
> > > idol
> > > > it
> > > > > > would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get

> up
> > > that
> > > > > > hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was
> > > warranted.
> > > > My
> > > > > > friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at

idol
> > with
> > > > no
> > > > > > strain.
> > > > > > My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> > > > > > Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> > > > > > Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the

dealerships
> > > front
> > > > > > window in disgust.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On hope and prayer
> > > > > > Gary
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 07-11-2004 10:16 PM

Re: Disappointed
 
By any chance, did you neglect to shift into 4-lo?

"DHead" <drlocke@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:10f34ikj9p6dkcc@corp.supernews.com...
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the

comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of

pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol

it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 07-11-2004 10:16 PM

Re: Disappointed
 
By any chance, did you neglect to shift into 4-lo?

"DHead" <drlocke@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:10f34ikj9p6dkcc@corp.supernews.com...
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the

comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of

pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol

it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 07-11-2004 10:16 PM

Re: Disappointed
 
By any chance, did you neglect to shift into 4-lo?

"DHead" <drlocke@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:10f34ikj9p6dkcc@corp.supernews.com...
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the

comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of

pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol

it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
>
>




Matt Macchiarolo 07-11-2004 10:16 PM

Re: Disappointed
 
By any chance, did you neglect to shift into 4-lo?

"DHead" <drlocke@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:10f34ikj9p6dkcc@corp.supernews.com...
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the

comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of

pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol

it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
>
>




Nick N 07-11-2004 10:38 PM

Re: Disappointed
 
Get those axle's locked (your old one probably had atleast limited slip) and
you'll see a huge difference.
nick

"DHead" <drlocke@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:10f34ikj9p6dkcc@corp.supernews.com...
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the

comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of

pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol

it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
>
>




Nick N 07-11-2004 10:38 PM

Re: Disappointed
 
Get those axle's locked (your old one probably had atleast limited slip) and
you'll see a huge difference.
nick

"DHead" <drlocke@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:10f34ikj9p6dkcc@corp.supernews.com...
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the

comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of

pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol

it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
>
>




Nick N 07-11-2004 10:38 PM

Re: Disappointed
 
Get those axle's locked (your old one probably had atleast limited slip) and
you'll see a huge difference.
nick

"DHead" <drlocke@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:10f34ikj9p6dkcc@corp.supernews.com...
> I hope this generates a lot of feedback.
> I just bought (last Saturday) a 2001 Jeep XJ (auto trans). I traded a 2000
> GMC Z71 for this vehicle.
> I know that it is unfair to compare the two vehicles but I don't have
> anything else to compare the XJ to.
> BIG let-down. Again, all you Cherokee lovers, please excuse the

comparison.
> The very first hill I climbed was a real strain on the XJ. There was a lot
> of loose gravel and dirt, but man, it seems that I had to use a lot of

pedal
> to go up. I was afraid that if I let it return to anything close to idol

it
> would force me to back down the hill. It took every thing to get up that
> hill. Pretty steep hill, admittedly but I don't think it was warranted. My
> friend's '97 XJ (manual trans) would have taken this hill at idol with no
> strain.
> My Z71 would have made it just above idol.
> Maybe a gear ratio would help or maybe I am expecting too much.
> Please advise before I drive this vehicle through the dealerships front
> window in disgust.
>
> On hope and prayer
> Gary
>
>





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