Jerry Bransford

Jeff, offroading with even some major hits isn't going to set the air bag
off. To disable the airbags, there are two fuses behind the glove
compartment and BOTH of them must be removed. The two fuses are backup to
each other, they are not in one particular airbag's circuitry.

Being in 4Low does not disable the TJ's air bag circuitry.

Jerry
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"Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040615013314.00136.00000793@mb-m22.aol.com...
> My kid would love to go with me on wheeling adventures, but she gets kind
of
> sick in the back. I think she'd do better up front. How do I disable the
> airbag?
>
> -jeff

jbjeep

>>Jeff, offroading with even some major hits isn't going to set the air bag
>>off. To disable the airbags, there are two fuses behind the glove

He is right on that Jeff....my TJ has gotten rather intimate with a couple of trees
along the trails...no problem with air bags going off...just with cheap a$$ stock
bumpers bending.

jbjeep

>>Jeff, offroading with even some major hits isn't going to set the air bag
>>off. To disable the airbags, there are two fuses behind the glove

He is right on that Jeff....my TJ has gotten rather intimate with a couple of trees
along the trails...no problem with air bags going off...just with cheap a$$ stock
bumpers bending.

jbjeep

>>Jeff, offroading with even some major hits isn't going to set the air bag
>>off. To disable the airbags, there are two fuses behind the glove

He is right on that Jeff....my TJ has gotten rather intimate with a couple of trees
along the trails...no problem with air bags going off...just with cheap a$$ stock
bumpers bending.

jbjeep

>>Jeff, offroading with even some major hits isn't going to set the air bag
>>off. To disable the airbags, there are two fuses behind the glove

He is right on that Jeff....my TJ has gotten rather intimate with a couple of trees
along the trails...no problem with air bags going off...just with cheap a$$ stock
bumpers bending.

Jerry Newton

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10d0vs3ga4lm61d@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
> news:asVzc.113716$Ly.84059@attbi_s01...
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > > You have to visit the NHTSA (National Highway Transportation and
Safety
> > > Administration) or some such acronym and download an official form.
> Complete
> > > the form and take it to the local dealership for the parts to bypass
the
> > > passenger side airbag.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20040615013314.00136.00000793@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > >
> > >>My kid would love to go with me on wheeling adventures, but she gets
> kind
> > >
> > > of
> > >
> > >>sick in the back. I think she'd do better up front. How do I disable
> the
> > >>airbag?
> > >>
> > >>-jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > As the vehicles owner you can remove or disable the air-bags without
> > getting anyones permission.
> >
>
> I do not believe that is true. That would be akin to saying that because
you
> are the owner, you can cut the seat belts out. The airbag is part of a
> required safety system, and it can be bypassed with a key if the forms are
> filled out.
>
> Yes, you can cut the trigger wire to defeat the system, but you are
exposed
> to some serious liability later on. If you can manage the liability, then
> cut away ...
>
>

You can do anything you want to your own vehicle. Cut the seat belts, if it
makes ya happy. Hell, this is still America.

A dealership won't touch this without that form, however. No repair
facility wants to assume the liability of disabling a safety device. The
dealerships I have worked at wouldn't disable an airbag system, form or no
form.

It comes right back to personal responsibility. If you don't want airbags,
then simply disconnect them. They won't go off accidentally.


Juice

Jerry Newton

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10d0vs3ga4lm61d@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
> news:asVzc.113716$Ly.84059@attbi_s01...
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > > You have to visit the NHTSA (National Highway Transportation and
Safety
> > > Administration) or some such acronym and download an official form.
> Complete
> > > the form and take it to the local dealership for the parts to bypass
the
> > > passenger side airbag.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20040615013314.00136.00000793@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > >
> > >>My kid would love to go with me on wheeling adventures, but she gets
> kind
> > >
> > > of
> > >
> > >>sick in the back. I think she'd do better up front. How do I disable
> the
> > >>airbag?
> > >>
> > >>-jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > As the vehicles owner you can remove or disable the air-bags without
> > getting anyones permission.
> >
>
> I do not believe that is true. That would be akin to saying that because
you
> are the owner, you can cut the seat belts out. The airbag is part of a
> required safety system, and it can be bypassed with a key if the forms are
> filled out.
>
> Yes, you can cut the trigger wire to defeat the system, but you are
exposed
> to some serious liability later on. If you can manage the liability, then
> cut away ...
>
>

You can do anything you want to your own vehicle. Cut the seat belts, if it
makes ya happy. Hell, this is still America.

A dealership won't touch this without that form, however. No repair
facility wants to assume the liability of disabling a safety device. The
dealerships I have worked at wouldn't disable an airbag system, form or no
form.

It comes right back to personal responsibility. If you don't want airbags,
then simply disconnect them. They won't go off accidentally.


Juice

Jerry Newton

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10d0vs3ga4lm61d@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
> news:asVzc.113716$Ly.84059@attbi_s01...
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > > You have to visit the NHTSA (National Highway Transportation and
Safety
> > > Administration) or some such acronym and download an official form.
> Complete
> > > the form and take it to the local dealership for the parts to bypass
the
> > > passenger side airbag.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20040615013314.00136.00000793@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > >
> > >>My kid would love to go with me on wheeling adventures, but she gets
> kind
> > >
> > > of
> > >
> > >>sick in the back. I think she'd do better up front. How do I disable
> the
> > >>airbag?
> > >>
> > >>-jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > As the vehicles owner you can remove or disable the air-bags without
> > getting anyones permission.
> >
>
> I do not believe that is true. That would be akin to saying that because
you
> are the owner, you can cut the seat belts out. The airbag is part of a
> required safety system, and it can be bypassed with a key if the forms are
> filled out.
>
> Yes, you can cut the trigger wire to defeat the system, but you are
exposed
> to some serious liability later on. If you can manage the liability, then
> cut away ...
>
>

You can do anything you want to your own vehicle. Cut the seat belts, if it
makes ya happy. Hell, this is still America.

A dealership won't touch this without that form, however. No repair
facility wants to assume the liability of disabling a safety device. The
dealerships I have worked at wouldn't disable an airbag system, form or no
form.

It comes right back to personal responsibility. If you don't want airbags,
then simply disconnect them. They won't go off accidentally.


Juice

Jerry Newton

"CRWLR" <beerman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10d0vs3ga4lm61d@corp.supernews.com...
>
> "Kevin" <Kevin@el.net> wrote in message
> news:asVzc.113716$Ly.84059@attbi_s01...
> > CRWLR wrote:
> > > You have to visit the NHTSA (National Highway Transportation and
Safety
> > > Administration) or some such acronym and download an official form.
> Complete
> > > the form and take it to the local dealership for the parts to bypass
the
> > > passenger side airbag.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Handywired" <handywired@aol.com> wrote in message
> > > news:20040615013314.00136.00000793@mb-m22.aol.com...
> > >
> > >>My kid would love to go with me on wheeling adventures, but she gets
> kind
> > >
> > > of
> > >
> > >>sick in the back. I think she'd do better up front. How do I disable
> the
> > >>airbag?
> > >>
> > >>-jeff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > As the vehicles owner you can remove or disable the air-bags without
> > getting anyones permission.
> >
>
> I do not believe that is true. That would be akin to saying that because
you
> are the owner, you can cut the seat belts out. The airbag is part of a
> required safety system, and it can be bypassed with a key if the forms are
> filled out.
>
> Yes, you can cut the trigger wire to defeat the system, but you are
exposed
> to some serious liability later on. If you can manage the liability, then
> cut away ...
>
>

You can do anything you want to your own vehicle. Cut the seat belts, if it
makes ya happy. Hell, this is still America.

A dealership won't touch this without that form, however. No repair
facility wants to assume the liability of disabling a safety device. The
dealerships I have worked at wouldn't disable an airbag system, form or no
form.

It comes right back to personal responsibility. If you don't want airbags,
then simply disconnect them. They won't go off accidentally.


Juice

CRWLR

> > I do not believe that is true. That would be akin to saying that because
you
> > are the owner, you can cut the seat belts out. The airbag is part of a
> > required safety system, and it can be bypassed with a key if the forms
are
> > filled out.
> >
> > Yes, you can cut the trigger wire to defeat the system, but you are
exposed
> > to some serious liability later on. If you can manage the liability,
then
> > cut away ...
> >
> >
>
> Tell me you are not safer running a full cage and 5 point belts as
> opposed to someone in a stock TJ with an airbag and the stock seat belts.
>
What are you talking about Kevin?

The OP is not running a modified Jeep, he is running with stock seat belts
and putting a child in the front seat. There is a means by which an owner
can have a bypass system installed on the Passenger Side airbag. It is
simple, and reasonably cheap, if not completely free. It is such an
important safety feature (the bypass switch) that it is installed as
standard equipment.

However, to answer your question, on the surface it would seem the full cage
and the 5-point would be safer, it's just that the OP had an entirely
different question.