Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
fuses... which then disables both airbags."
I want to make sure that this is accurate. We don't have a back
seat, and since we only have two vehicles, and my wife--because of a
medical condition--cannot drive the Jeep in cold weather (the sides and
back of the soft top have not existed for 9 years), so my 5 YO has to
ride in the Jeep frequently. I'm a careful driver, esp when driving
the Jeep, and would far rather have both airbags disabled, as I
consider my son's life more precious than my own. Will pulling those
fuses really do the trick?

Thank you very much in advance for your replies.

--Bryan

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

CLASSACT wrote:
> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> fuses... which then disables both airbags."

You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
But in the long run that is the best way.

--
DougW

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

CLASSACT wrote:
> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> fuses... which then disables both airbags."

You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
But in the long run that is the best way.

--
DougW

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

CLASSACT wrote:
> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> fuses... which then disables both airbags."

You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
But in the long run that is the best way.

--
DougW

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

The cutoff switch will disable only the pass side, removing the fuses will
disable both, I surmise.

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:PtBoh.25727$oA1.8708@newsfe19.lga...
> CLASSACT wrote:
>> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>
> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
> But in the long run that is the best way.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

The cutoff switch will disable only the pass side, removing the fuses will
disable both, I surmise.

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:PtBoh.25727$oA1.8708@newsfe19.lga...
> CLASSACT wrote:
>> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>
> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
> But in the long run that is the best way.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

The cutoff switch will disable only the pass side, removing the fuses will
disable both, I surmise.

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:PtBoh.25727$oA1.8708@newsfe19.lga...
> CLASSACT wrote:
>> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>
> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
> But in the long run that is the best way.
>
> --
> DougW
>
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

DougW wrote:
> CLASSACT wrote:
> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>
> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
> But in the long run that is the best way.

No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>
> --
> DougW

--Bryan

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

DougW wrote:
> CLASSACT wrote:
> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>
> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
> But in the long run that is the best way.

No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>
> --
> DougW

--Bryan

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

DougW wrote:
> CLASSACT wrote:
> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>
> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
> But in the long run that is the best way.

No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>
> --
> DougW

--Bryan

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> The cutoff switch will disable only the pass side, removing the fuses will
> disable both, I surmise.

As long as the fuse removal completely inactivates the system, I'm
fine. Thanks to both of you who answered.

--Bryan
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:PtBoh.25727$oA1.8708@newsfe19.lga...
> > CLASSACT wrote:
> >> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> >> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> >> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> >> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> >> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
> >
> > You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
> > a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
> > some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
> > But in the long run that is the best way.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> The cutoff switch will disable only the pass side, removing the fuses will
> disable both, I surmise.

As long as the fuse removal completely inactivates the system, I'm
fine. Thanks to both of you who answered.

--Bryan
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:PtBoh.25727$oA1.8708@newsfe19.lga...
> > CLASSACT wrote:
> >> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> >> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> >> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> >> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> >> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
> >
> > You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
> > a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
> > some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
> > But in the long run that is the best way.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> The cutoff switch will disable only the pass side, removing the fuses will
> disable both, I surmise.

As long as the fuse removal completely inactivates the system, I'm
fine. Thanks to both of you who answered.

--Bryan
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:PtBoh.25727$oA1.8708@newsfe19.lga...
> > CLASSACT wrote:
> >> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> >> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> >> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> >> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> >> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
> >
> > You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
> > a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
> > some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
> > But in the long run that is the best way.
> >
> > --
> > DougW
> >
> >

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

I do believe Jerry was 100% correct on that statement.

I referred to a relay for them once and was corrected by Jerry. I have
not found Jerry to be often wrong on technical issues with Jeeps and
there are 'sure' enough folks around here to correct him if he was.

Meanwhile you can get a factory defeat switch for the passenger side on
the early TJ's.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

CLASSACT@BRICK.NET wrote:
>
> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
> I want to make sure that this is accurate. We don't have a back
> seat, and since we only have two vehicles, and my wife--because of a
> medical condition--cannot drive the Jeep in cold weather (the sides and
> back of the soft top have not existed for 9 years), so my 5 YO has to
> ride in the Jeep frequently. I'm a careful driver, esp when driving
> the Jeep, and would far rather have both airbags disabled, as I
> consider my son's life more precious than my own. Will pulling those
> fuses really do the trick?
>
> Thank you very much in advance for your replies.
>
> --Bryan

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

I do believe Jerry was 100% correct on that statement.

I referred to a relay for them once and was corrected by Jerry. I have
not found Jerry to be often wrong on technical issues with Jeeps and
there are 'sure' enough folks around here to correct him if he was.

Meanwhile you can get a factory defeat switch for the passenger side on
the early TJ's.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

CLASSACT@BRICK.NET wrote:
>
> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
> I want to make sure that this is accurate. We don't have a back
> seat, and since we only have two vehicles, and my wife--because of a
> medical condition--cannot drive the Jeep in cold weather (the sides and
> back of the soft top have not existed for 9 years), so my 5 YO has to
> ride in the Jeep frequently. I'm a careful driver, esp when driving
> the Jeep, and would far rather have both airbags disabled, as I
> consider my son's life more precious than my own. Will pulling those
> fuses really do the trick?
>
> Thank you very much in advance for your replies.
>
> --Bryan

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

I do believe Jerry was 100% correct on that statement.

I referred to a relay for them once and was corrected by Jerry. I have
not found Jerry to be often wrong on technical issues with Jeeps and
there are 'sure' enough folks around here to correct him if he was.

Meanwhile you can get a factory defeat switch for the passenger side on
the early TJ's.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

CLASSACT@BRICK.NET wrote:
>
> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
> I want to make sure that this is accurate. We don't have a back
> seat, and since we only have two vehicles, and my wife--because of a
> medical condition--cannot drive the Jeep in cold weather (the sides and
> back of the soft top have not existed for 9 years), so my 5 YO has to
> ride in the Jeep frequently. I'm a careful driver, esp when driving
> the Jeep, and would far rather have both airbags disabled, as I
> consider my son's life more precious than my own. Will pulling those
> fuses really do the trick?
>
> Thank you very much in advance for your replies.
>
> --Bryan

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

Tell the dealership that your 10 year old rides in the front passenger
seat. Air bags can be deadly for children under 12 or so. That's the one
exception in the federal law mandating air bags and penalties for
deactivating them. Of course you may have to borrow a child if you don't
have one of the appropriate age. :-)

Bobo Bonobo wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>> CLASSACT wrote:
>>> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>>> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>>> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>>> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>>> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>
> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>> --
>> DougW
>
> --Bryan
>

--
FRH

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

Tell the dealership that your 10 year old rides in the front passenger
seat. Air bags can be deadly for children under 12 or so. That's the one
exception in the federal law mandating air bags and penalties for
deactivating them. Of course you may have to borrow a child if you don't
have one of the appropriate age. :-)

Bobo Bonobo wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>> CLASSACT wrote:
>>> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>>> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>>> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>>> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>>> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>
> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>> --
>> DougW
>
> --Bryan
>

--
FRH

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

Tell the dealership that your 10 year old rides in the front passenger
seat. Air bags can be deadly for children under 12 or so. That's the one
exception in the federal law mandating air bags and penalties for
deactivating them. Of course you may have to borrow a child if you don't
have one of the appropriate age. :-)

Bobo Bonobo wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>> CLASSACT wrote:
>>> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>>> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>>> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>>> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>>> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>
> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>> --
>> DougW
>
> --Bryan
>

--
FRH

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

My 99 TJ had a key-activated disconnect.

Carl


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45A2F117.395C09DB@sympatico.ca...
>I do believe Jerry was 100% correct on that statement.
>
> I referred to a relay for them once and was corrected by Jerry. I have
> not found Jerry to be often wrong on technical issues with Jeeps and
> there are 'sure' enough folks around here to correct him if he was.
>
> Meanwhile you can get a factory defeat switch for the passenger side on
> the early TJ's.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> CLASSACT@BRICK.NET wrote:
>>
>> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>> I want to make sure that this is accurate. We don't have a back
>> seat, and since we only have two vehicles, and my wife--because of a
>> medical condition--cannot drive the Jeep in cold weather (the sides and
>> back of the soft top have not existed for 9 years), so my 5 YO has to
>> ride in the Jeep frequently. I'm a careful driver, esp when driving
>> the Jeep, and would far rather have both airbags disabled, as I
>> consider my son's life more precious than my own. Will pulling those
>> fuses really do the trick?
>>
>> Thank you very much in advance for your replies.
>>
>> --Bryan

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

My 99 TJ had a key-activated disconnect.

Carl


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45A2F117.395C09DB@sympatico.ca...
>I do believe Jerry was 100% correct on that statement.
>
> I referred to a relay for them once and was corrected by Jerry. I have
> not found Jerry to be often wrong on technical issues with Jeeps and
> there are 'sure' enough folks around here to correct him if he was.
>
> Meanwhile you can get a factory defeat switch for the passenger side on
> the early TJ's.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> CLASSACT@BRICK.NET wrote:
>>
>> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>> I want to make sure that this is accurate. We don't have a back
>> seat, and since we only have two vehicles, and my wife--because of a
>> medical condition--cannot drive the Jeep in cold weather (the sides and
>> back of the soft top have not existed for 9 years), so my 5 YO has to
>> ride in the Jeep frequently. I'm a careful driver, esp when driving
>> the Jeep, and would far rather have both airbags disabled, as I
>> consider my son's life more precious than my own. Will pulling those
>> fuses really do the trick?
>>
>> Thank you very much in advance for your replies.
>>
>> --Bryan

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

My 99 TJ had a key-activated disconnect.

Carl


"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45A2F117.395C09DB@sympatico.ca...
>I do believe Jerry was 100% correct on that statement.
>
> I referred to a relay for them once and was corrected by Jerry. I have
> not found Jerry to be often wrong on technical issues with Jeeps and
> there are 'sure' enough folks around here to correct him if he was.
>
> Meanwhile you can get a factory defeat switch for the passenger side on
> the early TJ's.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> CLASSACT@BRICK.NET wrote:
>>
>> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>> I want to make sure that this is accurate. We don't have a back
>> seat, and since we only have two vehicles, and my wife--because of a
>> medical condition--cannot drive the Jeep in cold weather (the sides and
>> back of the soft top have not existed for 9 years), so my 5 YO has to
>> ride in the Jeep frequently. I'm a careful driver, esp when driving
>> the Jeep, and would far rather have both airbags disabled, as I
>> consider my son's life more precious than my own. Will pulling those
>> fuses really do the trick?
>>
>> Thank you very much in advance for your replies.
>>
>> --Bryan

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

You can go to the NHTSA Website and download a PDF file that you complete
and carry to the local dealership, where they will install a switch that you
use to disable the passenger side airbag whenever you need.

YOU are precisely the person for which the PDF was created, you have a
vehicle with no back seat, and are forced to have a child ride in the front
seat. Pick-up trucks of that year had the switch to turn the airbag off and
on, but Jeeps did not have it, even though they were offered for sale
without a back seat.




<CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
news:1168302758.888116.109750@i15g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
> I want to make sure that this is accurate. We don't have a back
> seat, and since we only have two vehicles, and my wife--because of a
> medical condition--cannot drive the Jeep in cold weather (the sides and
> back of the soft top have not existed for 9 years), so my 5 YO has to
> ride in the Jeep frequently. I'm a careful driver, esp when driving
> the Jeep, and would far rather have both airbags disabled, as I
> consider my son's life more precious than my own. Will pulling those
> fuses really do the trick?
>
> Thank you very much in advance for your replies.
>
> --Bryan
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

You can go to the NHTSA Website and download a PDF file that you complete
and carry to the local dealership, where they will install a switch that you
use to disable the passenger side airbag whenever you need.

YOU are precisely the person for which the PDF was created, you have a
vehicle with no back seat, and are forced to have a child ride in the front
seat. Pick-up trucks of that year had the switch to turn the airbag off and
on, but Jeeps did not have it, even though they were offered for sale
without a back seat.




<CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
news:1168302758.888116.109750@i15g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
> I want to make sure that this is accurate. We don't have a back
> seat, and since we only have two vehicles, and my wife--because of a
> medical condition--cannot drive the Jeep in cold weather (the sides and
> back of the soft top have not existed for 9 years), so my 5 YO has to
> ride in the Jeep frequently. I'm a careful driver, esp when driving
> the Jeep, and would far rather have both airbags disabled, as I
> consider my son's life more precious than my own. Will pulling those
> fuses really do the trick?
>
> Thank you very much in advance for your replies.
>
> --Bryan
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

You can go to the NHTSA Website and download a PDF file that you complete
and carry to the local dealership, where they will install a switch that you
use to disable the passenger side airbag whenever you need.

YOU are precisely the person for which the PDF was created, you have a
vehicle with no back seat, and are forced to have a child ride in the front
seat. Pick-up trucks of that year had the switch to turn the airbag off and
on, but Jeeps did not have it, even though they were offered for sale
without a back seat.




<CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
news:1168302758.888116.109750@i15g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
> both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
> and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
> for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
> fuses... which then disables both airbags."
> I want to make sure that this is accurate. We don't have a back
> seat, and since we only have two vehicles, and my wife--because of a
> medical condition--cannot drive the Jeep in cold weather (the sides and
> back of the soft top have not existed for 9 years), so my 5 YO has to
> ride in the Jeep frequently. I'm a careful driver, esp when driving
> the Jeep, and would far rather have both airbags disabled, as I
> consider my son's life more precious than my own. Will pulling those
> fuses really do the trick?
>
> Thank you very much in advance for your replies.
>
> --Bryan
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

"Bobo Bonobo" <CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
news:1168305691.542151.287590@s34g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> DougW wrote:
>> CLASSACT wrote:
>> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>>
>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>
> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.

That is wrong, the dealership MUST do it. Go to the National Highway
Transportation Safety Administration website for the official word on this
important matter. DO NOT listen to -------- from the dealer. Download the
PDF, and carry it to the dealer and get the job done right, which protects
your liability at the same time.

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

"Bobo Bonobo" <CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
news:1168305691.542151.287590@s34g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> DougW wrote:
>> CLASSACT wrote:
>> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>>
>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>
> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.

That is wrong, the dealership MUST do it. Go to the National Highway
Transportation Safety Administration website for the official word on this
important matter. DO NOT listen to -------- from the dealer. Download the
PDF, and carry it to the dealer and get the job done right, which protects
your liability at the same time.

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

"Bobo Bonobo" <CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
news:1168305691.542151.287590@s34g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> DougW wrote:
>> CLASSACT wrote:
>> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>>
>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>
> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.

That is wrong, the dealership MUST do it. Go to the National Highway
Transportation Safety Administration website for the official word on this
important matter. DO NOT listen to -------- from the dealer. Download the
PDF, and carry it to the dealer and get the job done right, which protects
your liability at the same time.

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:zJidneM8ycilaD_YnZ2dnUVZ_v6tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> My 99 TJ had a key-activated disconnect.
>
> Carl
>


Yes, and that key activated switch can be applied to earlier models if one
visits the National Highway traffic Safety Administration website.

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:zJidneM8ycilaD_YnZ2dnUVZ_v6tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> My 99 TJ had a key-activated disconnect.
>
> Carl
>


Yes, and that key activated switch can be applied to earlier models if one
visits the National Highway traffic Safety Administration website.

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
news:zJidneM8ycilaD_YnZ2dnUVZ_v6tnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> My 99 TJ had a key-activated disconnect.
>
> Carl
>


Yes, and that key activated switch can be applied to earlier models if one
visits the National Highway traffic Safety Administration website.

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

One thing I forgot to mention was that you will protect yourself better if
you have the dealer install the cutoff switch versus just pulling the fuses.
If you have personal injury protection (PIP) or medical coverage for your
person as part of your insurance (most people do) your insurance company
will not pay out for your injuries.

Also, if you are hit by someone else, thier insurance company will not pay
out for your injuries if your airbag is disabled. It's a liability you don't
want to take.

Make the dealer install the switch.

Carl


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:_KudnV31Bbs_aj_YnZ2dnUVZ_q-vnZ2d@ez2.net...
>
> "Bobo Bonobo" <CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
> news:1168305691.542151.287590@s34g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> DougW wrote:
>>> CLASSACT wrote:
>>> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>>> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>>> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>>> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>>> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>>>
>>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>>
>> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>
> That is wrong, the dealership MUST do it. Go to the National Highway
> Transportation Safety Administration website for the official word on this
> important matter. DO NOT listen to -------- from the dealer. Download the
> PDF, and carry it to the dealer and get the job done right, which protects
> your liability at the same time.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

One thing I forgot to mention was that you will protect yourself better if
you have the dealer install the cutoff switch versus just pulling the fuses.
If you have personal injury protection (PIP) or medical coverage for your
person as part of your insurance (most people do) your insurance company
will not pay out for your injuries.

Also, if you are hit by someone else, thier insurance company will not pay
out for your injuries if your airbag is disabled. It's a liability you don't
want to take.

Make the dealer install the switch.

Carl


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:_KudnV31Bbs_aj_YnZ2dnUVZ_q-vnZ2d@ez2.net...
>
> "Bobo Bonobo" <CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
> news:1168305691.542151.287590@s34g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> DougW wrote:
>>> CLASSACT wrote:
>>> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>>> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>>> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>>> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>>> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>>>
>>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>>
>> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>
> That is wrong, the dealership MUST do it. Go to the National Highway
> Transportation Safety Administration website for the official word on this
> important matter. DO NOT listen to -------- from the dealer. Download the
> PDF, and carry it to the dealer and get the job done right, which protects
> your liability at the same time.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

One thing I forgot to mention was that you will protect yourself better if
you have the dealer install the cutoff switch versus just pulling the fuses.
If you have personal injury protection (PIP) or medical coverage for your
person as part of your insurance (most people do) your insurance company
will not pay out for your injuries.

Also, if you are hit by someone else, thier insurance company will not pay
out for your injuries if your airbag is disabled. It's a liability you don't
want to take.

Make the dealer install the switch.

Carl


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:_KudnV31Bbs_aj_YnZ2dnUVZ_q-vnZ2d@ez2.net...
>
> "Bobo Bonobo" <CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
> news:1168305691.542151.287590@s34g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> DougW wrote:
>>> CLASSACT wrote:
>>> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>>> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>>> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>>> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>>> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>>>
>>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>>
>> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>
> That is wrong, the dealership MUST do it. Go to the National Highway
> Transportation Safety Administration website for the official word on this
> important matter. DO NOT listen to -------- from the dealer. Download the
> PDF, and carry it to the dealer and get the job done right, which protects
> your liability at the same time.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

Wrong. They don't have the authority to require a dealer to disable
an airbag.

You should know what you're talking about before spewing --------.


On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:02:10 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"Bobo Bonobo" <CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
>news:1168305691.542151.287590@s34g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>>
>> DougW wrote:
>>> CLASSACT wrote:
>>> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>>> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>>> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>>> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>>> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>>>
>>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>>
>> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>
>That is wrong, the dealership MUST do it. Go to the National Highway
>Transportation Safety Administration website for the official word on this
>important matter. DO NOT listen to -------- from the dealer. Download the
>PDF, and carry it to the dealer and get the job done right, which protects
>your liability at the same time.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

Wrong. They don't have the authority to require a dealer to disable
an airbag.

You should know what you're talking about before spewing --------.


On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:02:10 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"Bobo Bonobo" <CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
>news:1168305691.542151.287590@s34g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>>
>> DougW wrote:
>>> CLASSACT wrote:
>>> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>>> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>>> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>>> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>>> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>>>
>>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>>
>> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>
>That is wrong, the dealership MUST do it. Go to the National Highway
>Transportation Safety Administration website for the official word on this
>important matter. DO NOT listen to -------- from the dealer. Download the
>PDF, and carry it to the dealer and get the job done right, which protects
>your liability at the same time.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

Wrong. They don't have the authority to require a dealer to disable
an airbag.

You should know what you're talking about before spewing --------.


On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 18:02:10 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"Bobo Bonobo" <CLASSACT@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
>news:1168305691.542151.287590@s34g2000cwa.googleg roups.com...
>>
>> DougW wrote:
>>> CLASSACT wrote:
>>> > I read on old thread on this NG where Jerry Bransford wrote, "Rob,
>>> > both fuses control both air bags. You can remove one of the two fuses
>>> > and both air bags will still work as each fuse was designed as backup
>>> > for the other fuse. To disable your air bags, you must remove both
>>> > fuses... which then disables both airbags."
>>>
>>> You should be able to go to your local dealer and have them install
>>> a airbag cutoff switch. It usually takes some paperwork and may take
>>> some pressure as dealerships can be reluctant to put one in.
>>> But in the long run that is the best way.
>>
>> No dealership will do it. No one else will either. I tried that.
>
>That is wrong, the dealership MUST do it. Go to the National Highway
>Transportation Safety Administration website for the official word on this
>important matter. DO NOT listen to -------- from the dealer. Download the
>PDF, and carry it to the dealer and get the job done right, which protects
>your liability at the same time.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

bllsht wrote:
> Wrong. They don't have the authority to require a dealer to disable
> an airbag.

True.

> You should know what you're talking about before spewing --------.

It is a DOT Regulation 49 CFR 571/595
http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf24/29064_web.pdf
It only exempts the dealership from the statutory prohibition
against modifying safey equipment.

--
DougW

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

bllsht wrote:
> Wrong. They don't have the authority to require a dealer to disable
> an airbag.

True.

> You should know what you're talking about before spewing --------.

It is a DOT Regulation 49 CFR 571/595
http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf24/29064_web.pdf
It only exempts the dealership from the statutory prohibition
against modifying safey equipment.

--
DougW

Re: Disabling pass airbag in '97 TJ
 

bllsht wrote:
> Wrong. They don't have the authority to require a dealer to disable
> an airbag.

True.

> You should know what you're talking about before spewing --------.

It is a DOT Regulation 49 CFR 571/595
http://dmses.dot.gov/docimages/pdf24/29064_web.pdf
It only exempts the dealership from the statutory prohibition
against modifying safey equipment.

--
DougW