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> DougW wrote:
>> It is a pain in the *** isn't it. :)
> I want to say, "You have no idea", but I know you do ;)
>
>> You have to work them quite a bit to get
>> the ends through the grommet.
> Excuse my "doubtingness" but, I can't, for the life of me, see how the ends
> could ever go through that grommet, and this is why I say that.

Hmm.. it's been about ten years since I replaced my antenna. I might have
taken the grommet out by using a pair of needle nose pliers and twisting it
free. Don't remember the details and that was way before I had a digital
camera.

> 3) From the outside, looking into the wheel well, the wires again disappear
> "around a corner", or a bend, and the grommet is not visible. I can just
> barely get the tips of my fingers on the grommet, but it's very hard, and I'm
> not sure if I can pry it out of its' hole.

I do remember cursing and contorting myself while doing the removal. Might have
even taken the wheel off so I could get in there. Remember doing it with my
left hand while having my face pushed into the wheel well and my legs under the
vehicle. It was the only way I could get to the gromet and the worst possible
position to put any strength on it.

> I'm going to spend at least a considerable amount of time trying that or some
> variation of that tomorrow. Others have mentioned that the grommet itself and
> the wires it contains come out as "one piece", so we'll see.

I'm beginning to think they are right and I'm wrong about that grommet being
separate.

> I see that as the only viable option- Remove the f'in grommet.
>
> Please tell me I'm wrong, Please tell me there's some other way, or that I'm
> missing something. I'd cut the grommet out if I could get some tools up in
> there-- if only my fingers were razors..

Dunno any other way to do it. When I had the thing out it looked like I could
have pulled the old antenna all the way out and fed the new one in from the top
but that's only if that plastic push/cog thing is in one piece. Mine broke in
the spool down in the power antenna body.

--
DougW

 

jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
> DougW wrote:
>> It is a pain in the *** isn't it. :)
> I want to say, "You have no idea", but I know you do ;)
>
>> You have to work them quite a bit to get
>> the ends through the grommet.
> Excuse my "doubtingness" but, I can't, for the life of me, see how the ends
> could ever go through that grommet, and this is why I say that.

Hmm.. it's been about ten years since I replaced my antenna. I might have
taken the grommet out by using a pair of needle nose pliers and twisting it
free. Don't remember the details and that was way before I had a digital
camera.

> 3) From the outside, looking into the wheel well, the wires again disappear
> "around a corner", or a bend, and the grommet is not visible. I can just
> barely get the tips of my fingers on the grommet, but it's very hard, and I'm
> not sure if I can pry it out of its' hole.

I do remember cursing and contorting myself while doing the removal. Might have
even taken the wheel off so I could get in there. Remember doing it with my
left hand while having my face pushed into the wheel well and my legs under the
vehicle. It was the only way I could get to the gromet and the worst possible
position to put any strength on it.

> I'm going to spend at least a considerable amount of time trying that or some
> variation of that tomorrow. Others have mentioned that the grommet itself and
> the wires it contains come out as "one piece", so we'll see.

I'm beginning to think they are right and I'm wrong about that grommet being
separate.

> I see that as the only viable option- Remove the f'in grommet.
>
> Please tell me I'm wrong, Please tell me there's some other way, or that I'm
> missing something. I'd cut the grommet out if I could get some tools up in
> there-- if only my fingers were razors..

Dunno any other way to do it. When I had the thing out it looked like I could
have pulled the old antenna all the way out and fed the new one in from the top
but that's only if that plastic push/cog thing is in one piece. Mine broke in
the spool down in the power antenna body.

--
DougW

 

jimboe via CarKB.com did pass the time by typing:
> DougW wrote:
>> It is a pain in the *** isn't it. :)
> I want to say, "You have no idea", but I know you do ;)
>
>> You have to work them quite a bit to get
>> the ends through the grommet.
> Excuse my "doubtingness" but, I can't, for the life of me, see how the ends
> could ever go through that grommet, and this is why I say that.

Hmm.. it's been about ten years since I replaced my antenna. I might have
taken the grommet out by using a pair of needle nose pliers and twisting it
free. Don't remember the details and that was way before I had a digital
camera.

> 3) From the outside, looking into the wheel well, the wires again disappear
> "around a corner", or a bend, and the grommet is not visible. I can just
> barely get the tips of my fingers on the grommet, but it's very hard, and I'm
> not sure if I can pry it out of its' hole.

I do remember cursing and contorting myself while doing the removal. Might have
even taken the wheel off so I could get in there. Remember doing it with my
left hand while having my face pushed into the wheel well and my legs under the
vehicle. It was the only way I could get to the gromet and the worst possible
position to put any strength on it.

> I'm going to spend at least a considerable amount of time trying that or some
> variation of that tomorrow. Others have mentioned that the grommet itself and
> the wires it contains come out as "one piece", so we'll see.

I'm beginning to think they are right and I'm wrong about that grommet being
separate.

> I see that as the only viable option- Remove the f'in grommet.
>
> Please tell me I'm wrong, Please tell me there's some other way, or that I'm
> missing something. I'd cut the grommet out if I could get some tools up in
> there-- if only my fingers were razors..

Dunno any other way to do it. When I had the thing out it looked like I could
have pulled the old antenna all the way out and fed the new one in from the top
but that's only if that plastic push/cog thing is in one piece. Mine broke in
the spool down in the power antenna body.

--
DougW

 

This is what the FSM says for a 97 ZJ.

(9) Remove the antenna wire harness and coaxial
cable by pulling the grommet out of the cowl side
panel from inside the right front fender wheel hous-ing.
Then pull the wiring and cable through the hole
in the cowl side panel.

 

This is what the FSM says for a 97 ZJ.

(9) Remove the antenna wire harness and coaxial
cable by pulling the grommet out of the cowl side
panel from inside the right front fender wheel hous-ing.
Then pull the wiring and cable through the hole
in the cowl side panel.

 

This is what the FSM says for a 97 ZJ.

(9) Remove the antenna wire harness and coaxial
cable by pulling the grommet out of the cowl side
panel from inside the right front fender wheel hous-ing.
Then pull the wiring and cable through the hole
in the cowl side panel.

 

DougW wrote:
>Hmm.. it's been about ten years since I replaced my antenna. I might have
>taken the grommet out by using a pair of needle nose pliers and twisting it
Wow. I can't believe you could actually get a tool up in there and then
manipulate that tool with such little space.

>I do remember cursing and contorting myself while doing the removal. Might have
....
>I'm beginning to think they are right and I'm wrong about that grommet being
>separate.
....
>Dunno any other way to do it. When I had the thing out it looked like I could
>have pulled the old antenna all the way out and fed the new one in from the top
>but that's only if that plastic push/cog thing is in one piece. Mine broke in
>the spool down in the power antenna body.
It may be possible that mine is broke in there too.. I have to have a look
closely.

If not, I read that with a new mast/cable one can simply seat the new mast in
the motor shaft taking care to feed the cable in properly, and then have
someone turn off the radio so the motor will grab hold the cable and pull the
antenna in.

Problems may be that I cant get the little bit of old mast thats left (about
1/8 inch or less) out, and/or there is broken cable left over in the motor.

I'll find out shortly and get to you.

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DougW wrote:
>Hmm.. it's been about ten years since I replaced my antenna. I might have
>taken the grommet out by using a pair of needle nose pliers and twisting it
Wow. I can't believe you could actually get a tool up in there and then
manipulate that tool with such little space.

>I do remember cursing and contorting myself while doing the removal. Might have
....
>I'm beginning to think they are right and I'm wrong about that grommet being
>separate.
....
>Dunno any other way to do it. When I had the thing out it looked like I could
>have pulled the old antenna all the way out and fed the new one in from the top
>but that's only if that plastic push/cog thing is in one piece. Mine broke in
>the spool down in the power antenna body.
It may be possible that mine is broke in there too.. I have to have a look
closely.

If not, I read that with a new mast/cable one can simply seat the new mast in
the motor shaft taking care to feed the cable in properly, and then have
someone turn off the radio so the motor will grab hold the cable and pull the
antenna in.

Problems may be that I cant get the little bit of old mast thats left (about
1/8 inch or less) out, and/or there is broken cable left over in the motor.

I'll find out shortly and get to you.

--
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DougW wrote:
>Hmm.. it's been about ten years since I replaced my antenna. I might have
>taken the grommet out by using a pair of needle nose pliers and twisting it
Wow. I can't believe you could actually get a tool up in there and then
manipulate that tool with such little space.

>I do remember cursing and contorting myself while doing the removal. Might have
....
>I'm beginning to think they are right and I'm wrong about that grommet being
>separate.
....
>Dunno any other way to do it. When I had the thing out it looked like I could
>have pulled the old antenna all the way out and fed the new one in from the top
>but that's only if that plastic push/cog thing is in one piece. Mine broke in
>the spool down in the power antenna body.
It may be possible that mine is broke in there too.. I have to have a look
closely.

If not, I read that with a new mast/cable one can simply seat the new mast in
the motor shaft taking care to feed the cable in properly, and then have
someone turn off the radio so the motor will grab hold the cable and pull the
antenna in.

Problems may be that I cant get the little bit of old mast thats left (about
1/8 inch or less) out, and/or there is broken cable left over in the motor.

I'll find out shortly and get to you.

--
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