Difficult Starts - Requires Two Attempts
11-04-2007, 12:28 PM
#11
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Re: Difficult Starts - Requires Two Attempts
Daddy-O wrote:
> I have a 2000 Cherokee Classic - bone stock, 88,000 miles. For the
> past six+ months it almost never starts on the first turn of the key,
> but always starts like a new car on the second attempt. It is as
> though the first attempt is just practice or "priming the pump".
>
> I have put in new spark plugs, but that hasn't helped.
>
> Thanks for your help, this baby has to last until the girls are out of
> college - another four years!
>
> Best wishes --- Morgan
>
This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn
it to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is
leaking down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth
endangering about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump
run a couple seconds before you turn the key to start.
> I have a 2000 Cherokee Classic - bone stock, 88,000 miles. For the
> past six+ months it almost never starts on the first turn of the key,
> but always starts like a new car on the second attempt. It is as
> though the first attempt is just practice or "priming the pump".
>
> I have put in new spark plugs, but that hasn't helped.
>
> Thanks for your help, this baby has to last until the girls are out of
> college - another four years!
>
> Best wishes --- Morgan
>
This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn
it to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is
leaking down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth
endangering about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump
run a couple seconds before you turn the key to start.
11-04-2007, 12:28 PM
#12
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Re: Difficult Starts - Requires Two Attempts
Daddy-O wrote:
> I have a 2000 Cherokee Classic - bone stock, 88,000 miles. For the
> past six+ months it almost never starts on the first turn of the key,
> but always starts like a new car on the second attempt. It is as
> though the first attempt is just practice or "priming the pump".
>
> I have put in new spark plugs, but that hasn't helped.
>
> Thanks for your help, this baby has to last until the girls are out of
> college - another four years!
>
> Best wishes --- Morgan
>
This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn
it to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is
leaking down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth
endangering about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump
run a couple seconds before you turn the key to start.
> I have a 2000 Cherokee Classic - bone stock, 88,000 miles. For the
> past six+ months it almost never starts on the first turn of the key,
> but always starts like a new car on the second attempt. It is as
> though the first attempt is just practice or "priming the pump".
>
> I have put in new spark plugs, but that hasn't helped.
>
> Thanks for your help, this baby has to last until the girls are out of
> college - another four years!
>
> Best wishes --- Morgan
>
This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn
it to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is
leaking down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth
endangering about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump
run a couple seconds before you turn the key to start.
11-04-2007, 12:28 PM
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Re: Difficult Starts - Requires Two Attempts
Daddy-O wrote:
> I have a 2000 Cherokee Classic - bone stock, 88,000 miles. For the
> past six+ months it almost never starts on the first turn of the key,
> but always starts like a new car on the second attempt. It is as
> though the first attempt is just practice or "priming the pump".
>
> I have put in new spark plugs, but that hasn't helped.
>
> Thanks for your help, this baby has to last until the girls are out of
> college - another four years!
>
> Best wishes --- Morgan
>
This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn
it to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is
leaking down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth
endangering about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump
run a couple seconds before you turn the key to start.
> I have a 2000 Cherokee Classic - bone stock, 88,000 miles. For the
> past six+ months it almost never starts on the first turn of the key,
> but always starts like a new car on the second attempt. It is as
> though the first attempt is just practice or "priming the pump".
>
> I have put in new spark plugs, but that hasn't helped.
>
> Thanks for your help, this baby has to last until the girls are out of
> college - another four years!
>
> Best wishes --- Morgan
>
This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn
it to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is
leaking down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth
endangering about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump
run a couple seconds before you turn the key to start.
11-04-2007, 04:35 PM
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Re: Difficult Starts - Requires Two Attempts
Ya, it's weird, even when I wait for the fuel pump to spool up, it still
takes two tries.
Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
the second crank.
;
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>>
>
> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>
> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>
takes two tries.
Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
the second crank.
;
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>
> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>
> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>
11-04-2007, 04:35 PM
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Re: Difficult Starts - Requires Two Attempts
Ya, it's weird, even when I wait for the fuel pump to spool up, it still
takes two tries.
Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
the second crank.
;
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>
> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>
> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>
takes two tries.
Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
the second crank.
;
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>
> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>
> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>
11-04-2007, 04:35 PM
#16
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Re: Difficult Starts - Requires Two Attempts
Ya, it's weird, even when I wait for the fuel pump to spool up, it still
takes two tries.
Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
the second crank.
;
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>
> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>
> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>
takes two tries.
Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
the second crank.
;
"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>
> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>
> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>
11-04-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: Difficult Starts - Requires Two Attempts
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:35:00 GMT, "Brake Down" <Wonker@hotmail.com>
top posted like an ignorant ------- moron and wrote:
>Ya, it's weird, even when I wait for the fuel pump to spool up, it still
>takes two tries.
>
>Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
>easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
>the second crank.
Does the 4.0 have an oil pressure cut out? When the oil sending unit
on my car started going bad, that was one of the symptoms. I didn't
realise the connection until I replaced the oil sending unit for
another reason.
>"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>>
>>
>> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>>
>> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
>> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
>> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
>> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
>> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
>> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>>
>
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top posted like an ignorant ------- moron and wrote:
>Ya, it's weird, even when I wait for the fuel pump to spool up, it still
>takes two tries.
>
>Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
>easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
>the second crank.
Does the 4.0 have an oil pressure cut out? When the oil sending unit
on my car started going bad, that was one of the symptoms. I didn't
realise the connection until I replaced the oil sending unit for
another reason.
>"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>>
>>
>> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>>
>> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
>> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
>> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
>> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
>> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
>> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>>
>
--
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11-04-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: Difficult Starts - Requires Two Attempts
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:35:00 GMT, "Brake Down" <Wonker@hotmail.com>
top posted like an ignorant ------- moron and wrote:
>Ya, it's weird, even when I wait for the fuel pump to spool up, it still
>takes two tries.
>
>Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
>easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
>the second crank.
Does the 4.0 have an oil pressure cut out? When the oil sending unit
on my car started going bad, that was one of the symptoms. I didn't
realise the connection until I replaced the oil sending unit for
another reason.
>"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>>
>>
>> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>>
>> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
>> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
>> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
>> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
>> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
>> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>>
>
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top posted like an ignorant ------- moron and wrote:
>Ya, it's weird, even when I wait for the fuel pump to spool up, it still
>takes two tries.
>
>Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
>easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
>the second crank.
Does the 4.0 have an oil pressure cut out? When the oil sending unit
on my car started going bad, that was one of the symptoms. I didn't
realise the connection until I replaced the oil sending unit for
another reason.
>"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>>
>>
>> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>>
>> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
>> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
>> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
>> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
>> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
>> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>>
>
--
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11-04-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: Difficult Starts - Requires Two Attempts
On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:35:00 GMT, "Brake Down" <Wonker@hotmail.com>
top posted like an ignorant ------- moron and wrote:
>Ya, it's weird, even when I wait for the fuel pump to spool up, it still
>takes two tries.
>
>Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
>easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
>the second crank.
Does the 4.0 have an oil pressure cut out? When the oil sending unit
on my car started going bad, that was one of the symptoms. I didn't
realise the connection until I replaced the oil sending unit for
another reason.
>"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>>
>>
>> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>>
>> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
>> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
>> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
>> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
>> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
>> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>>
>
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top posted like an ignorant ------- moron and wrote:
>Ya, it's weird, even when I wait for the fuel pump to spool up, it still
>takes two tries.
>
>Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
>easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
>the second crank.
Does the 4.0 have an oil pressure cut out? When the oil sending unit
on my car started going bad, that was one of the symptoms. I didn't
realise the connection until I replaced the oil sending unit for
another reason.
>"Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>>>
>>
>> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>>
>> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
>> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
>> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
>> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
>> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
>> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>>
>
--
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11-04-2007, 07:41 PM
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Re: Difficult Starts - Requires Two Attempts
That doesnt sound like simple leakdown.
Brake Down wrote:
> Ya, it's weird, even when I wait for the fuel pump to spool up, it still
> takes two tries.
>
> Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
> easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
> the second crank.
> ;
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>>
>> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
>> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
>> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
>> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
>> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
>> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>>
>
>
Brake Down wrote:
> Ya, it's weird, even when I wait for the fuel pump to spool up, it still
> takes two tries.
>
> Iwill start on the first try after extended cranking, but it will start
> easier if I crank it a just a bit and stop; then it'll start right away on
> the second crank.
> ;
> "Lon Stowell" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:dO6dnQ78J-avnLPanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>> This is probably nothing to do with plugs.
>>
>> I have a 95 4.0 that has been doing the same thing for over 5 years now.
>> Just turn the key on, wait until you hear the fuel pump stop, then turn it
>> to start. If that works, the problem is that fuel pressure is leaking
>> down as the vehicle sets idle. There really is nothing earth endangering
>> about this as long as you remember to just let the fuel pump run a couple
>> seconds before you turn the key to start.
>>
>
>